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Oh wait, it's London voting intention. That makes sense, Labour will clean up in London. Thought it was nation wide.
Yep, only just caught that.In London - and 17. Yeah, I wouldn't trust YouGov either.
It depends on the majority. If they get 350+ seats, she'll last the term imo. If they barely escape a hung parliament, she'll be gone in a year/two years. If it is a hung parliament, then that's all she wrote.Even if they win, I can't see her lasting an entire term. I give her 3 more years maximum.
She'll do the Brexit shenanigans then hand off to someone else so they don't take the blame.Even if they win, I can't see her lasting an entire term. I give her 3 more years maximum.
The strange morphing into 2015 redux continues
Trouble is, people didn't believe it in 2015. But people also thought it was a realistic outcome then, don't think it's filtered through that it could happen this time yet.I suppose he has to be adamant about this as it otherwise plays into the whole Coalition of Chaos narrative.
You can form a government without any deals, Thornberry said today that they'd put forward a Queen's speech and it would be up the the likes of the SNP to either vote it through or allow a Tory government to form. It's a nuanced point that didn't really work in 2015 but is all they can really say at this point."No is no" said the PSOE's leader Sánchez in Spain. Chaos followed both in the country and his party as he was adamant that there would be no deals or pacts. Wouldn't a chaotic fractious hung parliament be disastrous for a naysaying Labour party as they would take the blame for any Brexit calamities ?
There probably wouldn't have been an election in the first place. Can you imagine the look on Jess Phillips' face if her constant media appearances not only didn't get Corbyn out of the Labour leadership but indirectly helped him get into No.10?Looking at the polls now I have to ask where we would be if the PLP had supported the democratically elected leader rather than trying to sabotage his chances from the get-go?
Just looking like she isn't trying to give someone a blowjob in every picture she takes would help. The images make my little man want to disappear inside me every time I see them.Not that it as at all top of the agenda but you would think someone in the Tory party would have gotten Theresa a stylist by now !!!
Lets hope. 2 weeks more and we might have turned it around enough to get the win. I think the turn around has come too late. I hope I'm wrong. As of now a hung parliament would be a major victory.There probably wouldn't have been an election in the first place. Can you imagine the look on Jess Phillips' face if her constant media appearances not only didn't get Corbyn out of the Labour leadership but indirectly helped him get into No.10?
True, but time after time there could be deals done with the SNP or whoever which might end up detrimental to a Labour government. If they are absolutely dependent on the Greens or Scottish and Welsh nationalist parties they may have to agree to things which could easily be portrayed as negative for the rest.You can form a government without any deals, Thornberry said today that they'd put forward a Queen's speech and it would be up the the likes of the SNP to either vote it through or allow a Tory government to form. It's a nuanced point that didn't really work in 2015 but is all they can really say at this point.
Trouble is, people didn't believe it in 2015. But people also thought it was a realistic outcome then, don't think it's filtered through that it could happen this time yet.
Bear in mind that just prior to 2015, YouGov had Ed at 35% favourable (-21 net). Corbyn's currently at 30 (-28 net), a lot higher than he has been, certainly, and just rewards for a very good campaign showing, but he's still not particularly popular with the public (and I don't think Ed had it much easier with the press). I think people in marginals particularly do think about the likely resulting government, it certainly came up in vox pops in places like Nuneaton post-2015, so it could well happen again. But you're also quite possibly right that this his already been priced in for voters.The other difference this time:
The Tory strategy has been "it's either Corbyn or May". And people seem to be saying (at least more than expected - even if the Conservatives do end up getting their healthy majority) actually we quite like Corbyn.
Despite two years of constant demonisation Corbyn doesn't seem to be complete electoral poison. I don't think you can create a narrative in one week that turns people off of Corbyn because "he might have to work with the SNP"
They've already blown their load with regards to fear mongering.
The other difference this time:
The Tory strategy has been "it's either Corbyn or May". And people seem to be saying (at least more than expected - even if the Conservatives do end up getting their healthy majority) actually we quite like Corbyn.
Despite two years of constant demonisation Corbyn doesn't seem to be complete electoral poison. I don't think you can create a narrative in one week that turns people off of Corbyn because "he might have to work with the SNP"
They've already blown their load with regards to fear mongering.
He better hope no one was watching. A complete mess of a interview.Christ Farron was awful in that Neil interview.
Very true. Corbyn will have some involvement in Princess Di's death before the weekend is over if the polls keep closing.Don't underestimate the Tories and their press, there's still time to sink to new lows and always new lies to peddle.
Very true. Corbyn will have some involvement in Princess Di's death before the weekend is over if the polls keep closing.
Theresa May is a fecking disgrace. She calls for an election and then doesn't even have the decency to face the country in televised debates. Her only public appearances are with 20-30 stage managed factory workers in factories. Cringey.
If the Tories win, they'll get rid of her as soon as possible.