General Election 2017 | Cabinet reshuffle: Hunt re-appointed Health Secretary for record third time

How do you intend to vote in the 2017 General Election if eligible?

  • Conservatives

    Votes: 80 14.5%
  • Labour

    Votes: 322 58.4%
  • Lib Dems

    Votes: 57 10.3%
  • Green

    Votes: 20 3.6%
  • SNP

    Votes: 13 2.4%
  • UKIP

    Votes: 29 5.3%
  • Independent

    Votes: 3 0.5%
  • Plaid Cymru

    Votes: 2 0.4%
  • Sinn Fein

    Votes: 11 2.0%
  • Other (UUP, DUP, BNP, and anyone else I have forgotten)

    Votes: 14 2.5%

  • Total voters
    551
  • Poll closed .
Voted. My constituency is the most marginal in the area so I'm really hoping we hold on to it. Fingers crossed but I've done my bit!
 
I have a bad feeling about today, that the 'surge' for Labour is merely a surge in optimism that won't translate into enough votes. I feel like the media is so despicable and England is so rotten under the surface that it's had the opposite effect and they, Tory voters, will turn out in big numbers to maintain the status quo.

Hope I'm proven wrong.

You won't be. The Tories can count on all the knuckle dragging UKIP voters that they've pandered to since Brexit to add to their existing base.
 
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Labour won 70%+ of votes in my constituency last time out.
As safe as a seat can be.
 
If the Sun had gone pro-Labour, today's front page would never even have been mentioned on here. As long as (the majority of) people on here are happy to go and cross the red box I wouldn't worry too much what the newspapers say. The fact that Labour are doing much better than could have been anticipated a month ago is testament to how little it means in reality.
How little what means, the Sun?

The Sun's Election Picks
2015 - Conservatives and Scottish Conservatives (won)
2010 - Conservatives (won with Dems)
2005 - Labour (won)
2001 - Labour (won)
1997 - Labour (won)
1992 - Conservatives (won)
1987 - Conservatives (won)
1983 - Conservatives (won)
1979 - Conservatives (won)
1974 October - "All Parties"
1974 February - Conservatives (lost)
1970 - Labour (lost)
1966 - Labour (won)
1964 - Labour (won)

I think they are pretty important
 
I was with our local MP for a few hours yesterday. She's a massive Corbin supporter. Wonderfully brave young lady in standing up for her beliefs despite opposition from the political establishment. I'll open up in the future in a relevant thread.
 
How little what means, the Sun?

The Sun's Election Picks
2015 - Conservatives and Scottish Conservatives (won)
2010 - Conservatives (won with Dems)
2005 - Labour (won)
2001 - Labour (won)
1997 - Labour (won)
1992 - Conservatives (won)
1987 - Conservatives (won)
1983 - Conservatives (won)
1979 - Conservatives (won)
1974 October - "All Parties"
1974 February - Conservatives (lost)
1970 - Labour (lost)
1966 - Labour (won)
1964 - Labour (won)

I think they are pretty important

The internet is now a major factor too and all those results are relative to the years they were taken.
 
If the conservatives win like 45% of the seats, who would join them in forming a coalition gov.? Could they accept Ukip? And even if they do and it is still below 50%, who else?
 
If the conservatives win like 45% of the seats, who would join them in forming a coalition gov.? Could they accept Ukip? And even if they do and it is still below 50%, who else?

UKIP won't have a seat to share with them. Maybe Lib Dem again if the maths works out, but I find it hard to see how they can reconcile their views on Europe.
 
If the conservatives win like 45% of the seats, who would join them in forming a coalition gov.? Could they accept Ukip? And even if they do and it is still below 50%, who else?
UKIP won't win any seats. If they can't get a majority with the DUP it will be a minority administration, assuming Lab/Lib/SNP also too short.
 
If the conservatives win like 45% of the seats, who would join them in forming a coalition gov.? Could they accept Ukip? And even if they do and it is still below 50%, who else?

Even if UKIP did have seats, surely it would be political suicide to go into partnership with them.
 
UKIP won't have a seat to share with them. Maybe Lib Dem again if the maths works out, but I find it hard to see how they can reconcile their views on Europe.

Exactly. With Brexit, this time it's different to the Cameron/Klegg one. So if the polls are correct, you might have a hung parliament.
 
Farron entering into another coalition with those cnuts would kill the party forever.
 
So the party that accidentally (against it's leaders wishes) took the UK out of the European Union, without any plan whatsoever how to do so (at the time), and just to please it's extreme right wing, is the wise option? That's some funky wisdom they've got. No matter how you stand on brexit, this is all true. Even if it were the greatest thing ever done by anybody it would still hold true. And it's going to be a huge clusterfeck

I'm torn between wanting Labour to win and the feeling that the Tories deserve to preside over their magnificent brexit and all of it's glorious consequences.

You can't blame Conservatives for Brexit, most of the party wanted to remain and most of their voters as well.
 
Not sure whats worse the terrible play on words and defamation of someone or the fact that people will be influenced or become more entrenched in their opinions despite there merit.

The worst bit of both is insinuating that one is friends with Terrorists. It's unnecessary scare-mongering.
 
fecked them into the milk is currently my favourite phrase of the day :lol:
 
Thanks everyone.


UKIP won't win any seats. If they can't get a majority with the DUP it will be a minority administration, assuming Lab/Lib/SNP also too short.

But with a minority administration, governability, and that would be terrible at such times.
 
'Corbyn will tax your work, your garden, your home, your inheritance, your dog, your cat, your nan etc.'
The template has already been done.

ELECTION BOMBSHELL AS CORBYN (INSERT FLAKY SENSATIONALIST BOLLOCKS HERE)

In a development that could ruin the Labour general election campaign, it has been revealed that party leader and prime ministerial hopeful Jeremy Corbyn once <<insert flaky sensationalist bollocks here>> with <<dunno, someone evil or something>> in 1986.

http://southendnewsnetwork.com/news/election-bombshell-as-corbyn/
 
The worst bit of both is insinuating that one is friends with Terrorists. It's unnecessary scare-mongering.

Scum bags.

The friends of terrorists are the terrorists who sell weapons through back channels for a profit and the government who allows it to happen where the MP's eventually get their cut when they leave politics and get positions in said arms companies as "advisors"
 
The template has already been done.

ELECTION BOMBSHELL AS CORBYN (INSERT FLAKY SENSATIONALIST BOLLOCKS HERE)

In a development that could ruin the Labour general election campaign, it has been revealed that party leader and prime ministerial hopeful Jeremy Corbyn once <<insert flaky sensationalist bollocks here>> with <<dunno, someone evil or something>> in 1986.

http://southendnewsnetwork.com/news/election-bombshell-as-corbyn/

Stop trying to distract from the fact that he once spoke out against child slavery. The guy is sick I tell you!
 
Had a dream of David Dimbleby's cromulent voice saying "we are forecasting a hung parliament!", heard it here first.
 
You can't blame Conservatives for Brexit, most of the party wanted to remain and most of their voters as well.
Which is exactly my point. "Strong and stable" ... "oops, accidentally gambled away our influence on the continent"
 
It would be something to have a leader people could actually love and want to back because they are trying to do the right thing. Sometimes the unexpected can be a good thing.
To borrow a quote, I think that's because "people either don't know what they want or think you should bring back hanging for traffic wardens"
 
The party I'm voting for are guaranteed to keep out the Tories though, so...ya know...
I'm in the same boat, think I would be 60/40 Lab/SNP if it was PR, but have to go SNP here.
 
I don't do this openly but I certainly think it. Not just about Tories (I've voted for them in the past) but for anyone who votes for a party that is intending to introduce policies that will hurt people.

Think of it this way, there are reportedly a large number of British people who went into agonizing depression and then killed themselves because of policies brought in by the conservative government. They had their means of keeping a roof over their heads and food on the table removed, and they couldn't see a better option than to kill themselves. Not whine on Facebook, not rant down the pub, but actually take their own lives.

Government and politics isn't some giant thought exercise where if you get it wrong we just sigh and vote for someone else in 5 years. If government gets it wrong, people suffer. People's lives get turned upside down. People die.

Now with the previous Cameron government there's an argument that people didn't know what would happen. There were certainly warning signs during the coalition, but its not unreasonable of people to think it wouldn't go so far. Now there is no excuse. People are dead, the NHS is being privatised, May has openly said she's going to attack our civil liberties and gut human rights law while continuing the vicious attack on welfare and now pensioners too.

If you vote for that to continue, then you're as responsible for the consequences as they are.

Attacking human rights law is stop the terrorists, you don't need to worry about your dodgy porn downloads!
 
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