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And a boiling, deep-seated hatred of the gays.
What's gays got to do with anything! If anything oldies are more likely to be sexually free as stop caring what anyone thinks
And a boiling, deep-seated hatred of the gays.
What's gays got to do with anything! If anything oldies are more likely to be sexually free as stop caring what anyone thinks
I think for this reason as much as anything, they'll come to an agreement for a Queen's speech just to get things functional. But I do think we'll be heading back to the polls by the end of the year because a Tory+DUP double act is not very strong or stable.This is crazy! Surely at the least more time is needed to address election weaknesses and put together a manifesto part deux!
What is the likelihood of another general election? I don't think I'd mind another.I think for this reason as much as anything, they'll come to an agreement for a Queen's speech just to get things functional. But I do think we'll be heading back to the polls by the end of the year because a Tory+DUP double act is not very strong or stable.
Seems to be correctApparently the fixed-term parliament act dictates that if a government can't be formed, new election has to take place in two weeks![]()
Early elections
Section 2 of the Act provides for early general elections when either of
the following conditions is met:
• if a motion for an early general election is agreed either by at least
two-thirds of the whole House (including vacant seats), i.e. 434
Members out of 650, or without division; or
• if a motion of no confidence is passed and no alternative
government is confirmed by the Commons within 14 days by
means of a confidence motion.
There were detailed discussions about the constitutional implications of
these triggers during the passage of the Bill. Some commentators and
Members of both Houses questioned whether both options were
necessary, and argued that the legislation would allow for constructive
votes of no confidence (where an incumbent government triggers an
early election through tabling a motion of no confidence in itself).4
Initially, the Bill provided for no confidence motions to be certified as
such by the Speaker, given that there was no set formula for confidence
motions. This provision was removed, following concerns that the
legislation would make the Speaker’s consideration of confidence
motions and the practices of the House questions for the courts, which
could be drawn into matters of acute political controversy. Instead, the
Act now provides for a set formula to be used. Firstly, the form of the
motion would be:
“That this House has no confidence in Her Majesty’s Government”.
If this motion is carried, there is a 14 calendar day period in which to
form a new Government, confirmed in office by a resolution as follows:
“That this House has confidence in Her Majesty’s Government”
If a new Government cannot be formed within this time period, then
dissolution is triggered. There is no provision for an extension of the 14 day period. Dissolution need not follow immediately on a triggering
event, as section 2(7) allows for the Prime Minister to recommend a
suitable polling day to the Crown. A proclamation for a new Parliament
can then be issued.
The Act also specifies the form of the motion for the purposes bringing
about an early general election:
“That there shall be an early parliamentary general election”.
This procedure was used on 19 April 2017, following Prime Minister
Theresa May’s announcement, on 18 April 2017, that she planned to
call an early election which would be held on 8 June 2017.5
A proclamation, announcing that the general election would take place
on 8 June 2017, was issued on 25 April 2017,6 so Parliament will
dissolve on 3 May 2017.
What is the likelihood of another general election? I don't think I'd mind another.
Agreed. It won't be this simple, but you have to hope that this election gives us a united Labour party for at least a couple of years.You'd think they've got little choice, particularly after their chosen candidate had the balls to admit he was wrong about Corbyn last night. But Jess Phillips wouldn't get booked on This Week whenever she wanted if she agreed with the party leader.
With age comes a lower openness to new ideas as a personality trait, shown by studies.With age comes wisdom!
Apparently the fixed-term parliament act dictates that if a government can't be formed, new election has to take place in two weeks![]()
Zero cabinet ministers have still shown their faces on TV today.![]()
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With age comes a lower openness to new ideas as a personality trait, shown by studies.
Other people talk about voter fatigue but I think they're great fun.
I'm getting the impression they'll bump her down to Westminster before long.
With a new election, the beating the Tories have had in the press over the last 24 hours, Scotland recognising a Labour vote could be a strong tactical move and a re-energised Labour support, I really wouldn't be surprised to see a Labour majority.
Tories have rightly fecked up my local area, but will still get in every year. I can give examples if you like.
I know that's not the point you were making to Zarlak. But maybe National and Local should stay separate?
You realise who the Tories are getting into bed with?
If there's another vote I'm almost certain my own constituency will swing Labour. They almost recovered a 20%+ gap, getting it done to hundreds of votes.
Very interesting.
So they're just going to enter into discussions now with the DUP.
Why has May gone and gotten permission to form a government, when there's always a slim chance the talks with the DUP could break down?
Wouldn't the logical thing be to make a deal and then go to the palace?
People over play thus. The largest voted party in NI. Yes they can sort their shit out in NI. They won't have a major play on anything
I've lot of first time voters say they empowered voting. Corbyn was building momentum and if had another few weeks, who knows what could have happened.What is the likelihood of another general election? I don't think I'd mind another.
There are always many exceptionsI have more knowledge and experience as I get older like most and politically I find that I'm more open to ideas funnily enough.
Vastly overestimating the DUP therePeople over play thus. The largest voted party in NI. Yes they can sort their shit out in NI. They won't have a major play on anything
Of course they matter, I don't think I said at any point in that post that they didn't? I said that there are much bigger and more daunting things facing all of us that need consideration. What you alluded to would be cutting your nose off to spite your face. Fixing a small local problem by changing the entire country and fecking yourself over in 7 other areas cannot be described as anything but short sighted. General elections are supposed to be about changing the country, not just about changing your local area. That's what local elections are for and I know you're smart enough to know that.
And we only need 4 of them to think thatId hope some Tory MPs decide they cant support elevating the DUP.
Tory won in Enfield (where i lived and worked from 2013 and 2014)?Enfield is a total disgrace in that regard. I don't know how an openly proud Labour supporter could look some of their fellow residents in the eye this morning. They'd need a bloody good explanation for certain, as the anger among people i've spoken to is very high. A future campaign might be very bitter.
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YesA quick question: isn't the DUP linked with unionist terrorism?
A quick question: isn't the DUP linked with unionist terrorism?
I've followed Davidson on twitter for ages - she's got a great sense of humour. She'll need it.I'm very intrigued to see how Davidson acts here. She's always been a very liberal Tory - her views in that regard fly in the face of the much more conservative May, and her own sexuality is at the odds with the abhorrent views of the DUP. She'll be very careful in how she acts; burning too many bridges may weaken her chances, but if Boris fancies himself for PM then I wouldn't be shocked to see Davidson wanting to stand herself because she dislikes him a fair bit.
Naturally though, any move to Westminster would require a by-election, and considering the volatility of Scottish politics right now, I wouldn't be half-surprised if she became favourite for PM and then lost a by-election to actually get into parliament.
I thought Corbyn was the terrorist sympathiser.
And we only need 4 of them to think that