He or his father really sound bad, I think in the long run it will benefit your club more not to deal with them. Specially if you get Dembele as a replacement.
Can see him going the way of all Brazilians once he achieves his goals.
Barcelona to sue Neymar over move to Paris St-Germain
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He or his father really sound bad, I think in the long run it will benefit your club more not to deal with them. Specially if you get Dembele as a replacement.
Can see him going the way of all Brazilians once he achieves his goals.
Absolutely and a big reason why I started talking about selling him back in November 2016. It's more a question about the idiocy of the board in how to recover from their failure to mitigate his transfer through solid acquisitions. They are backed in the proverbial corner with very little leverage apart from players refusing to play/train
I don't think Neymar Jr. will implode as a player but I have never been convinced with his degree of professionalism. He grew up in the shadow of the Beckham phenomena and at least Becks was a serious professional whereas Neymar is not obsessed about football. For me, the best players in the game were relentless and their hunger never waned - I think Neymar is too split with the other side of his life
but unless it was explicitly stated in the contract the money was an advance and would need to be paid back if he left at X time, Barca just f-up no?? Not legal but I'm sure unless things are very clear in the contract Neymar should be in the clear if a club pays his release clause and Barca say they'll advance his fee (for no reason). If the contract says they'll advance on this condition then they have a case.
Sorry, I know you said you're not sure on the exact terminology but just a really good piece of discussion
@We need an rvn a lot of these contract details are never publicly laid out, especially with this board - so it'll be up to the system to decide whether there's merit to the suit(s)
Did you have a contract with her?
Don't see any problem in Barca suing Neymar over breach of contract or whatever. It's well within their right. Nobody knows what was on that contract anyway, maybe some of the money he got was tied to him staying at the club more than he ended up staying, who knows. If they believe they have a case go for it.
Likely to have contracted something, no doubt
Was there a crabs clause?
"You guys are in the right then"?? Why? He even says he's not sure of the exact terms.
Why would Barcelona pay him a loyalty clause if it wasn't just for renewing? If it was for renewing AND staying full term, surely it would be staged payments with some of it AT THE END?
Why believe anything Barcelona say anyway.... remember their legal claims against Laporta? (thrown out by a Spanish court). They're babies, they talk rubbish.... they say if Neymar can't pay (yeah right, he's short of a bob or two isn't he), PSG should pay it. How the fecking feck does that work? So if you give me a tenner and I don't give it you back, my best mate should repay you?
"Less than a club".
Makes more sense to me that Barca would front load the payments to make it more attractive to the player while still stipulating that it is on the proviso that the player fulfills the full term of the contract. Anything less would seem like egregious incompetence on the part of the club. It might be that they are incompetent, but it's more reasonable to suppose they are not - especially given the fact they are taking this to court.
In terms of the PSG should pay thing, yeah that sounds unlikely to hold up. However if Neymar is in breach of his contract and accountancy shenanigans means he can't pay then I suppose some form of direct payment of his wage to Barcelona as recompense might be worked out.
It just seems completely premature to assume that Barcelona is in the wrong on this issue.
feck Barcelona, feck Neymar and feck PSG.
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The Brazilian Garrincha is a Legend of the Game, considered by some as the greatest right-winger, and his life is pretty...funny
So many great famous players knew how to do La Fiesta like Romario, Ronaldinho and many old-school Argentinian players. I'm a big fan of Ronaldinho but I'm sure Neymar is more professional
Only players obsessed about football can do what Neymar does on the pitch...
Your bitterness makes you blind, which I can understand.
It is reached a point where laughing at them is getting boring. They should just move on and try their best to forget that Neymar ever played for them.
100% agree. My point was that Barca seem particularly bitter about this (and rightully so as I do about Ronaldo to Real but completely different situations) and to do what they're doing is very odd considering someone paid his release clause and they were happy to reject the release clause acceptance from PSG at the start even though that was the figure in the contract.
As a club, not looking great but Barca are Barca and I shaved my hair like Koeman when he joined you as I loved the Dutch / Barca connection at the time (going back to '91 or so)
Don't know the details of the contract, but lawyers on each side will have a field day with this one. Around €35 - 40 million legal case worth that will probably drag on if it goes to court.
It's an understatement that Barca has made a mess out of this transfer window.
It's an understatement that Barca has made a mess out of this transfer window.
The Brazilian Garrincha is a Legend of the Game, considered by some as the greatest right-winger, and his life is pretty...funny
So many great famous players knew how to do La Fiesta like Romario, Ronaldinho and many old-school Argentinian players. I'm a big fan of Ronaldinho but I'm sure Neymar is more professional
Only players obsessed about football can do what Neymar does on the pitch...
Your bitterness makes you blind, which I can understand.
You'll see for yourself, I have watched him closely for 4 seasons - I have no bitterness, I knew what we were getting when he was bought and knew he would leave sooner than later which I advocated for
He's a massive talent but he is not lethal like the very best to have ever played the game - he'll be good enough to be mentioned with the best when it is all said & done but he'll never be in that final rung of greatness IMHO
I think the board is trying to deflect from the crisis they are in and hope to shift the narrative to Neymar having screwed Barcelona. The Neymars may have screwed the club (in terms of the money) but it cannot have been a surprise as this same board made the shady deal with them in the first place - at best it is naive on their part but they are looking for survival
@FCBarca
I agree in the sense that:
- he will have a shorter career peak than players like Prime Messi/Cr7. I don't see Neymar - at the age of 32 - scoring a lot of goals like Cristiano
- he is below players like Prime Messi/Cr7 in terms of sharpness.
He won't be greater than Messi/Cr7 but I think he will have a bigger impact on the game than Ronaldinho for instance.
I have nothing to add about him
I agree in the sense that:
- he will have a shorter career peak than players like Prime Messi/Cr7. I don't see Neymar - at the age of 32 - scoring a lot of goals like Cristiano
- he is below players like Prime Messi/Cr7 in terms of sharpness.
He won't be greater than Messi/Cr7 but I think he will have a bigger impact on the game than Ronaldinho for instance.
I have nothing to add about him
Their board needs to get over it and stop all this nonsense. It's getting pretty ridiculous now and even I'm starting to feel embarrassed... and I'm a Real Madrid supporter ffs!
Don't know if this is because he criticized the Barcelona board the other day but I didn't know they would be this petty about him. This is of course a very silly thing to sue Neymar but today all Barcelona players are taking pictures with Neymar; which only makes the board look even more silly about all of this. Then I can imagine Barcelona having the nerve to ask for Di María and wanting him on the cheap.
Don't know if this is because he criticized the Barcelona board the other day but I didn't know they would be this petty about him. This is of course a very silly thing to sue Neymar but today all Barcelona players are taking pictures with Neymar; which only makes the board look even more silly about all of this. Then I can imagine Barcelona having the nerve to ask for Di María and wanting him on the cheap.
Hilarious, Barcelona have always been a bit dodgy but this summer their reputation is going down the drain.
Move on.
Move on.
@Ecstatic You're hardly going out on a limb to claim he'll have a bigger impact than Ronaldinho when the latter really shined bright for about 4-5 seasons. I'd agree with this too but as we know, Ronnie wasn't much of a professional either
It's a new world and footballers are different in general today, with social media and corporations & PR camps - they are as consumed, if not more, with their image off the pitch and the money rolling in than what they do on it. I think the quality of the game will take a hit but perhaps this is the history of the sport in general, peaks & troughs
It's a new world and footballers are different in general today, with social media and corporations & PR camps - they are as consumed, if not more, with their image off the pitch and the money rolling in than what they do on it. I think the quality of the game will take a hit but perhaps this is the history of the sport in general, peaks & troughs
Their board needs to get over it and stop all this nonsense. It's getting pretty ridiculous now and even I'm starting to feel embarrassed... and I'm a Real Madrid supporter ffs!
Don't know if this is because he criticized the Barcelona board the other day but I didn't know they would be this petty about him. This is of course a very silly thing to sue Neymar but today all Barcelona players are taking pictures with Neymar; which only makes the board look even more silly about all of this. Then I can imagine Barcelona having the nerve to ask for Di María and wanting him on the cheap.
No. They have sued some days after he joined PSG
Neymar just tweeted this.
Definitely this. They are trying to cover their failings and hoping the fans fall for it.
Can't beat Real on the pitch, so Barca are trying to beat them off it as the douchiest team in the world
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Given their recent antecedents, transfers and current state of the club I think the most logical thing would be to assume they're being petty, are incompetent and are more likely to be in the wrong that Neymar.
He and his father might be money grabbers of the worst kind but that behavior was enabled and consented by Barcelona when they first bought him, so if he has done anything wrong then Barcelona had been his accomplices as well.
They need to stop giving that type of deals to his players because it's clearly not working for them.
This is one of those times where I wish Cruyff was still alive to give us a nasty opinion piece about Barça and Neymar.
Hardly idiots, before this summer 200million might as well have been infinite money, they doubled the previous amount ever paid for a player, £80mil has become the new £20mil, this summer has been mental.
A man lured by money once, will be lured again.
Swear to feck this sounds like a jealous ex. Just accept it, Neymar wanted to leave so he fecking left. Rats leaving a sinking ship.
Our Ander would need to get bigger pockets. He still has Hazard in there from last year, but at least Messi is only little.
Because loyalty(signing on) bonuses are paid over the duration of contract if fm is correct, which it normally is.
They probably paid it upfront to help.smooth the deal and have lower wages etc
...which means it was never a loyalty bonus but a stupidly packaged addition to his wages.
If Barto didn't have to explain this payment to their socios, no one would ever know it happened.
Barcelona have had a disastrous summer honestly.
They've looked completely incompetent in all facets.
They've looked completely incompetent in all facets.
This Barca board make first term Florentino and that muppet Calderon look like paragons of sanity and virtue in comparison.Remember Real used to be the circus club
Yeah maybe, but after lying about the Neymar fee to avoid tax (before being found out), lying about one of their own/Laporta (before a judge threw it out), lying about signing underage players (before getting a transfer ban), then tapping up Fabregas, Suarez and now Coutinho and Dembele .... I'm not inclined to give them the benefit of the doubt, but it's sweet you do.
When people trot out the 'More than a club' thing to have a go Barcelona you do realise that motto relates to Catalan nationalism?