There's a race to the bottom to claim the most victimhood. Have you heard of "Holocaust Envy"?
Has political correctness actually gone mad?
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Germaine Greer
She didn't just 'commit that mortal sin'. It wasn't an articulate carefully considered point about the matter at hand. It was... well, that.
It's a harsh way to put it but she isn't far wrong. You can state your opinion without being a massive dick about it though.
And people who wish to be taken seriously should. She didn't, so she isn't.
Yep. From what I remember she's always had a certain style shall we say, even as far back as the 70s with her, at that time, progressive views on women's birth control rights. Can't claim to have read much of her stuff mind, but enough.
Her talk which was ultimately cancelled (by her) was not related to transgender issues; according to the Guardian it was on "women and power in the 20th century". Should she not be taken seriously on that topic?
Personally I would take anyone less seriously in any intellectual debate if they had recently made comments like that.
I disagree. Nothing in that comment to make me take her less seriously generally.
Each to their own. To me she sounds like the drunk in the corner of the pub you stay well away from.
I like colourful analogies, maybe that's it.
Choosing to stay away from her was an option.
But that wasn’t enough for the cosseted fecking childred that tried to deny her the right to express an opinion.
The really stupid thing about no-platforming is that it stifles discussion and debate which would help everyone involved.
That's not true. You can defend free speech without pretending it does not have consequences.
Think it varies depending on circumstances. I can absolutely understand universities/other similar organisations no-platforming actual out-and-out Nazis and the like, but in general I'm all for an array of opinions being discussed/disputed etc, even ones that are a bit out there.
This sentence/paragraph made me chuckle more than it should have. Makes him sound a general shady cnut.
Well yes but I fail to see how letting Germaine Greer try and give that quote a bit more context (and debate with people that disagree with her) could do anything other than move the whole discussion along. If her views are out-dated then listen to them, challenge them and educate her and everyone who’s listening. Surely the best way forward.
Her comments look entirely reasonable to me tbh.
She could have been more diplomatic about how she expressed it ... but i think complaining about that is absurd
Its nowhere near controversial enough to warrant being no-platformed.
She could have been more diplomatic about how she expressed it ... but i think complaining about that is absurd
Its nowhere near controversial enough to warrant being no-platformed.
What absolute cuntweasels.
So, this may not be all correct, but AFAIK: depression and suicide rates among trans people are very high. They are high at least partly because of non-acceptance by society, bullying, rejection from jobs, etc. The non-acceptance is due to attitudes like Greer's.
Debates don't always end with the "correct" side winning, people respond to a lot more than facts. It may be that debating white supremacists is the best way to challenge them. It may be that giving them a platform is their best path to power.* It may be that just by listening to this talk, enough people get radicalised and start killing. I don't know.
But it is naive to think that there can be no consequences to a debate.
*Edit - which is exactly what they calculate, when they decide to speak at potentially hostile spaces.
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Here's another one.
Bloke got arrested for teaching his girlfriend's pug to do a nazi salute.
Judging by his twitter account yer man is a basement dwelling, alt-right bellendus maximus. Which, has of course, caused a chorus of screeches about free speech to waft out from basements all over the globe (unbeknownst to their parents, quietly watching Top Gear upstairs).
Fecking hell, though. Why give them the ammunition? This sort of thing is absolutely mental. Can everyone please calm down?
Bloke got arrested for teaching his girlfriend's pug to do a nazi salute.
Judging by his twitter account yer man is a basement dwelling, alt-right bellendus maximus. Which, has of course, caused a chorus of screeches about free speech to waft out from basements all over the globe (unbeknownst to their parents, quietly watching Top Gear upstairs).
Fecking hell, though. Why give them the ammunition? This sort of thing is absolutely mental. Can everyone please calm down?
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What a headline.
Wtf
Here's another one.
Bloke got arrested for teaching his girlfriend's pug to do a nazi salute.
Judging by his twitter account yer man is a basement dwelling, alt-right bellendus maximus. Which, has of course, caused a chorus of screeches about free speech to waft out from basements all over the globe (unbeknownst to their parents, quietly watching Top Gear upstairs).
Fecking hell, though. Why give them the ammunition? This sort of thing is absolutely mental. Can everyone please calm down?
Ah yeah, remember seeing that one. Was bizarre.
Here's another one.
Bloke got arrested for teaching his girlfriend's pug to do a nazi salute.
Judging by his twitter account yer man is a basement dwelling, alt-right bellendus maximus. Which, has of course, caused a chorus of screeches about free speech to waft out from basements all over the globe (unbeknownst to their parents, quietly watching Top Gear upstairs).
Fecking hell, though. Why give them the ammunition? This sort of thing is absolutely mental. Can everyone please calm down?
Dumbass. I wonder if his girlfriend has dumped him yet?
Plus now every Pug in that city is going to have people running up to it yelling "Gas the jews" just to see if it is the Nazi Pug.
I think the brilliant George Carlin got political correctness spot on with this piece.
So this actually happened a few months ago but I only just came across it - apologies if its been discussed already.
A baby in Canada had their gender left blank on their birth certificate so as to give the child the freedom to choose for themselves when they are older.
http://edition.cnn.com/2017/07/04/health/canadian-baby-gender-designation/index.html
Too far, for me.
A baby in Canada had their gender left blank on their birth certificate so as to give the child the freedom to choose for themselves when they are older.
http://edition.cnn.com/2017/07/04/health/canadian-baby-gender-designation/index.html
Too far, for me.
I guess this is where he went wrong.
Be very interested to see what the result of that research application would be at a proper university.
Assuming there isn't some better reason for rejecting it than we're aware of, which currently seems rather unlikely given they aren't challenging his version of events, then it is disappointing.
Even if it just ended up as a study of 'people who had transitioned to men and reverted to living as women without having surgery', which seems likely, it could've been useful research.
Even if it just ended up as a study of 'people who had transitioned to men and reverted to living as women without having surgery', which seems likely, it could've been useful research.
Just me who waited a bit thinking it takes time for gif to load? 
Yeah if this hasn't been explored much then surely it's important research. I'm all for people being able to transition but if there are people regretting their decision to do so then potentially identifying warning signs of that or reasons why it might be happening can only be benificial for the community. In my non expert opinion of course.
More spineless uni fearing a social media frenzy than PC gone mad.
You mean the post below mine? Doesn't it amount to the same thing? Spineless uni worrying about PC?
Ah, yeah, sorry, quoted wrong post!
At the surface the reasoning may be sound, but they have jumped so far into the rabbit hole with their categorization and generalization of people it has lost all meaning. Also, they conveniently leave out one particular "privilege": Class privilege, i suspect because if they included it most of them had to fecking check it.
To put it this way, in their eyes Beyonce (who is a POC and a woman) is less privileged (a lot less) than some homeless white bloke who lives under a bridge
I don't challenge the notion that belonging to certain groups generally can put you at a disadvantage, but i think it's a lot more fruitful to help those who need help and look past whatever labels they fall under
Uh, that's just not true.
Also not true.
Is that even possible? How are you going to help anyone if you don't who they are or what their life has been? This kind of logic, though clearly well intended is just nonsense. You wouldn't ask a doctor to give everyone the same treatment, because that doesn't work. So why would social work be any different?
Which of these descriptions of the same person will lead you find the most suitable help:
A: Homeless, foreign born female, 34 years old, 2 kids, speaks conversational English, husband deceased. She has a history of mental health issues and is inclined not to trust social workers due to racial abuse she has received since becoming homeless.
B: A person who needs help.
Obviously it's description A, because knowing even a little about who someone is and what they're faced with is much more helpful than running away from long words a lefty on the internet used.
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