[Denis79]

What the hell was that!? Mourinho's coward tactics didn't even give us a chance to go for it. Don't get me wrong I'm happy with a draw but not like this... I'm a big fan of Mourinho and I know he plays like this sometimes and I thought I would be able to handle it but I can't... Absolute shit, no ambition to win it, man I'm so dissapointed...

 

[Summit]

Not remember his return to Chelsea at OT? Schurrle up top... parked the bus for 90 minutes. Think that was when Moyes was in charge actually.

I'm more remebering the Fergie years. Fergie had a torrid time against Jose

 

[stubie]

Identical to 6 years ago!

Played below par come out of it with a draw which gave us 6 wins and 2 draws from the first 8 games (other draw was away to Stoke)

We all know what happened next

Huddersfield couldn’t do a City could they?

 

[RedTillI'mDead]

They have played us off the park in other years under SAF and we nicked a goal. Today we didn't. It is small margins. Did anyone care then?

Then we were still confident of winning the title. Now the margins are much finer and City don't look like a team likely to drop many points. A draw away to City, Chelsea is probably fine. Against anyone else it's not good enough. Liverpool were 7th before this game and we shouldn't be giving them respect.

This said at least we didn't lose!

 

[Dobbs]

You want us to play like Arsenal away from home at Liverpool then?

I would rather be top of the league this afternoon.

Is there no middle ground? It's either today's performance or Arsenal?

 

[Woodzy]

Horrible performance but good result.

 

[Santoryo]

It's happened too many times in big matches like this against for me to blame the players. Poor as they may have been (which is always the case in similar scenarios), I'm pointing fingers at José.

Roll on the next game, please!

This.

Stick Messi in this team, with those tactic and he also comes out anonymous unless he knows how to put in a shift defensively.

This display is on the manager. He set up the team this way and obviously had no intention of attacking.

 

[TheReligion]

Point at anfield. Without much stress. We are trashing all teams at home. Playing the best football in years. We didn't lose any game this year( ok, except real). In every game we were better team.
So what is up with you guys? This point is good. City will attack here and lose. You can hate liverpool but you don't come at anfield and attack them. They are counter attacking team. Remember arsenal games? All goals from counter attack. This is what good manager do. Reads a game.

Good post

 

[R'hllor]

You want us to play like Arsenal away from home at Liverpool then?

I would rather be top of the league this afternoon.

Woah is for you trying to claim how people want us to play like Arsenal and get smashed and then you come out with reply double down style ala Trump...Gsus. It clear what bother some people and thats certainly not us not playing like Arsenal.

 

[VeevaVee]

Woeful. The tactics may have been bad, but that doesn't change the seemingly lacklustre effort, jogging around. Or maybe it does, but it definitely doesn't call for atrocious passing.

Every time we managed to get one pass together they'd block our route forward and we'd have no options then lose the ball. That's if we managed to get a pass completed in the first place.

 

[Paul_Scholes18]

Identical to 6 years ago!

Played below par come out of it with a draw which gave us 6 wins and 2 draws from the first 8 games (other draw was away to Stoke)

We all know what happened next

Huddersfield couldn’t do a City could they?

Well lucky we don't play City next. Will be terrible if they win on goal-difference again.

 

[kouroux]

Liverpool's record against the top 6 is unreal. City beat them comfortably but it was a close game until they went down to 10 men. We had a few players out. To play for a point was sensible, our individual players performances made it all look a lot less professional than it was.

Even Graeme fecking Souness understands today better than a lot of United fans on here!

There is playing for a point and there is what we displayed. Surely you can see that we were really bad. Couldn't make 4-5 passes in row, kept passing it back to De Gea to hoof it up. For me that is very different to a draw where you completely controlled the opponent, prevented scoring chances and kept a good passing rhythm.
I'd have taken a draw before the match but sometimes it's more than just a result, there is drawing like we did and drawing the match with a bit more cojones. Granted in terms of points, it changes feck all but it's the way I feel.

 

[Peanut Butter]

I'm not asing you to look at the fecking results or bigger picture ffs. I asked you about our performance today, because yoyu know that is in fact what we are in here discusing. Are you happy with how we played today?

Yes very happy!

 

[stubie]

Well lucky we don't play City next. Will be terrible if they win on goal-difference again.

I don’t want to think about that

Just want to think about Benfica away

 

[2 man midfield]

Some right moaners in here. Maybe they'd prefer the days under Moyes where we got to the byline and crossed a lot but lost 3-0.

A point at Anfield is not a bad result by any means. Let's just relax and hope those useless pottery making twats can do us a favour.

 

[Rusholme Ruffian]

Can't I be both? You think Real fans are not tribal when they play Atlético or Barcelona? I don't see the two as mutually exclusive. There is nothing more painful than watching Liverpool win but there is also nothing more annoying for me to have our team associated with the role of spoilers and game killers. I am tired of watching the best European clubs dominate through pro active football with our teams being reduced to the role of "having to defend well". I could accept the financial disparity if I were a Liverpool or Arsenal fan but when you look at our finances and status, there is no reason why we shouldn't be on the same level as the likes of Barcelona and Real. Watching us, this is absolutely impossible under Mourinho. I know he can win the league, Leicester won it for goodness sake. It is not where I think our ambition should stop long term though.

As for Fergie, I think you are simplifying it to suit your argument. Fergie was obsessed about conquering Europe, not just winning the CL. Looking back on his interviews and books, nothing annoyed him more than the notion that his teams could not play toe to toe with the best in the world. Just look at how he tried to allude to Queiroz being behind our approach against Barcelona in 2008 and not him. He was an alpha and felt United should play with the ego and authority of the very biggest clubs, no different to any other big club really. Of course he could not always pull it off, most of the time, our gung ho approach either cost us or we could not even implement it but that does not mean that Fergie's vision of us was that of a team that should look to be the pro active one, rather than one that only wins.

We are the current Europa League champions, have started our CL group in style, and Mourinho has won the CL twice with different sides, so not sure your point about Europe stands to be honest.

 

[Baby Groot]

Liverpool were equally poor, if their fans or klopp think another way then let their delusion continue.

Sure

But lets be honest, they never looked like scoring. Just unfortunate we couldn't make that count more.

 

[marktan]

Haven't watched the match, but with out injuries I'll happily take a point. People complaining about not attacking needed to realise we don't have Ronaldo, Rooney and Tevez up front. The 3 supporting Lukaku from the lineups I see were Martial, Mikhi and Young, all players who have been patch at best in their United careers so far.

We're also missing Pogba, Bailly, Rashford and Fellaini most likely from the starting lineup, those 4 players would've made a difference. Yes Pool are missing Mane, but that's the only real first teamer they're missing.

 

[GeorgieBoy]

Why are people coming in here saying this? No one denies it isn't a great result at anfield, people are pissed off that we didn't even try against one of the worst defences in the league. We are better than that! We have agreat players, but everytime we got the ball we just handed it back to them. We were shite.

Arsenal lost 5-0 to this lot away. I imagine most of the other 'Big 6' will also lose here. I can get your point but had we gone toe-to-toe with them away from home in their cup final I would've favoured them to win today.

 

[AshRK]

Sure

But lets be honest, they never looked like scoring. Just unfortunate we couldn't make that count more.

They were at home yet played with 3 midfielders. He could have chosen to be more expansive and subbed one if the midfielders but he subbed salah and coutinho.

 

[Kraftwerker]

Mourinho such a wind up merchant.

 

[Rusholme Ruffian]

There is playing for a point and there is what we displayed. Surely you can see that we were really bad. Couldn't make 4-5 passes in row, kept passing it back to De Gea to hoof it up. For me that is very different to a draw where you completely controlled the opponent, prevented scoring chances and kept a good passing rhythm.
I'd have taken a draw before the match but sometimes it's more than just a result, there is drawing like we did and drawing the match with a bit more cojones. Granted in terms of points, it changes feck all but it's the way I feel.

I said in my first post on the thread that it was a disappointing performance, but a lot of that had to do with poor individual performances, the fact that Liverpool badly needed to win the game, and the fact that we really lack the creative spark of Pogba. I'm content.

 

[Jean claude van hire]

Jose citing tiredness in the midfield for our lethargic approach. Understandable really. Still, was very surprised when Klopp took off Salah & Coutinho, game was always going to fade away to a draw from this moment on.

 

[Ali Dia]

Very cynical display I have to say.

 

[Summit]

Yes very happy!

one shot on target and you are happy with the performance. I agree about being happy with the result, and the league position, but noway would I agree on being happy with the perfromance. We are as you know so much better than that. I actually think you are just digging your heels in now to back up your initial post in this thread, because I can't believe you are happy with how we played today.

 

[Zlatattack]

That was so shit. We needed those 3 points to have the aura of champions, to get the confidence. Now watch city get 3 points, take a 2 point lead and for us to look weak.

 

[Tapori]

Top point.
No midfield options really, after an International break away at Liverpool; Job well done.

Can't understand the complaining; we were poor on the ball but that was a shift.
Lukaku looked well off the pace.

 

[devips]

I have no problem with the result, but what baffles me is our absolute refusal to counter attack in the second half. Mourinho is normally defensive against elite teams but has been this ultra defensive only with United. Why? Doesn't he have trust enough in our players?

 

[Summit]

Arsenal lost 5-0 to this lot away. I imagine most of the other 'Big 6' will also lose here. I can get your point but had we gone toe-to-toe with them away from home in their cup final I would've favoured them to win today.

Why is Arsenal the bench mark of what will happen if you have a go at Liverpool? Why are people saying this is what will happen if you attack?

 

[LeftyBlaster]

There is playing for a point and there is what we displayed. Surely you can see that we were really bad. Couldn't make 4-5 passes in row, kept passing it back to De Gea to hoof it up. For me that is very different to a draw where you completely controlled the opponent, prevented scoring chances and kept a good passing rhythm.
I'd have taken a draw before the match but sometimes it's more than just a result, there is drawing like we did and drawing the match with a bit more cojones. Granted in terms of points, it changes feck all but it's the way I feel.

No better way to describe today.

 

[Bobcat]

Considering we’ve got players out and it’s post internation break, a point away to Anfield is a damn good result. This was a must not lose game and we did exactly that. Content with the point overall.

Yeah, not the best performance by any means, but a point at Anfield is not bad honestly.

 

[Andycoleno9]

So if a team wins they deserve to win, if a team loses they deserve to lose and if a team draws they deserve to draw?

It must be great for scoreboard fans to approach the game that way, no need to even watch the game to have an opinion.

Yes exactly that. We are not talking here about performance, we are talking about who "deserved" to win. Final score is only that counts. If not what is left? We will have 5 or 10 refs who will watch the match from the stands and who will give points for performance, shots, possession, fair play, etc...
"Possession: man utd 1 point, liverpool 3
Shots: man utd 2 points, liverpool 3.
Goals: man utd 0 points, liverpool 0 points
Etc...
Overall: liverpool wins 15-11. "

 

[Stacks]

Its hard for fans to enjoy games like that, when your team make no effort to play football or win and make it uncompetitive for your opponents/fiercest rivals. add to the fact that we didn't put on a defensive masterclass and they may well have scored.Iit seems like the tactic was we'll let you play, not compete and hope you don't score one of your chances which is a bit meh

 

[redIndianDevil]

Point at anfield. Without much stress. We are trashing all teams at home. Playing the best football in years. We didn't lose any game this year( ok, except real). In every game we were better team.
So what is up with you guys? This point is good. City will attack here and lose. You can hate liverpool but you don't come at anfield and attack them. They are counter attacking team. Remember arsenal games? All goals from counter attack. This is what good manager do. Reads a game.

Without stress? you have no idea the stress I was under. And no we aren't trashing teams, we barely escaped against Stoke, Southampton and Liverpool. Against Everton though the scoreline looked impressive we barely held on against Everton in the second until the goal flourish at the end.

A good manager doesn't spend close to 400m and play like fecking West Brom, there are defensive tactics and their is plain cowardly football, what we saw today was the second. Not one player had the balls to pick up the ball and find their teammates, looked like every one was told to clear the ball as soon as they got it. I've seen the likes of Conte, SAF set up to contain their opposition and play on the counter attack, what United did was plain park the bus cowardly bullshit, you don't need Lukaku, Martial, Matic to play this shit, what's the point of spending so much only to play such garbage tactics.

Mourinho has not impoved any one of our players so far here, everyone looks far pathetic than under LvG, at least under LvG they were forced to pass the ball to their teammates, now we just it hoof it to Lukaku and Fellaini(when he is fit).

 

[kouroux]

I said in my first post on the thread that it was a disappointing performance, but a lot of that had to do with poor individual performances, the fact that Liverpool badly needed to win the game, and the fact that we really lack the creative spark of Pogba. I'm content.

So we more or less agree I see. Mkhitaryan and Herrera were so bad, it's annoying. These are the player we need to step up in these matches.

 

[sullydnl]

Guys! This is a good result. 1 point away at Anfield? Yes please, thanks very much. The onus was on them to win the game and they weren't good enough. Fergie did this away in big CL games, same thing here. I'm pretty happy tbh.

Generally speaking a draw away at Anfield is certainly a good result.

I don't see why all the onus to win would be on them rather than us though. For a start I'd expect any Manchester United side to show more intent to beat Liverpool than we did today, even within the context of Mourinho's general pragmatic approach.

Beyond that though, we're quite clearly the better side. We have title aspirations, they have top four aspirations. We were level on points at the top of the table, they were in seventh. We were in form, they weren't. Before the game posters here were picking maybe two of their players in the combined 11 between the teams?

Given that, it's hardly unreasonabke to think we should have taken it upon ourselves to target a win today. If we're happy to surrender the onus to win to what is a relatively poor Liverpool side then I can only imagine our approach against the genuine title contenders.

 

[R'hllor]

He made it sound like Matic and Ander were tired you cant make up this shit.

 

[themoyesboy]

Mourinho such a wind up merchant.

He's right. Liverpool were very happy with the point despite being miles behind us and City. Their unwillingness to risk losing in order to win says everything about that club. They were at home, they had a massive gap to close, and they were cowards.

 

[Baby Groot]

Mourinho such a wind up merchant.

I'm sure Mourinho would be banned on here several times.

Yes exactly that. We are not talking here about performance, we are talking about who "deserved" to win. Final score is only that counts. If not what is left? We will have 5 or 10 refs who will watch the match from the stands and who will give points for performance, shots, possession, fair play, etc...
"Possession: man utd 1 point, liverpool 3
Shots: man utd 2 points, liverpool 3.
Goals: man utd 0 points, liverpool 0 points
Etc...
Overall: liverpool wins 15-11. "

Trying to figure out how this work, the only objective of the game is to score goals which both teams failed to do, yet you manage to conclude liverpool win 15-11

 

[lex talionis]

Recommend we focus more on the result in light of the circumstances than on the quality of the performance.

• Anfield is a difficult ground to win three points from.
• We're notoriously poor after an international break.
• We were without three key players.
• It was the first start for the Jones+Smalling partnership.
• It was our first real test of the season.

Disappointment isn't out of order but viewed in the larger picture a draw is actually a good result for us.