Wouldnt read much into it actually, they have been quite unlucky also with the ref. And Ronaldo's finishing will go back to normal soon. But poor defending by Ramos again, what's up with that guy, one of the best footballers but not really one of the best defenders I think.
Zinedine Zidane | Resigns
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Another random fact, Spurs have also dropped 7 points at home this season
. I like how this season has progressed so far. Long may this trend continue. I think Zidane has been rotating too much this season and it has affected the team chemistry. He needs to start playing the same XI more often.But then he actually has to choose between Bale/Isco/Asensio, which Im not sure he wants to.Another random fact, Spurs have also dropped 7 points at home this season
I think Madrid were betting big on Mbappe and thought that he would be the successor to Ronaldo. But PSG has completely ruined their summer plans.
They made a mistake by not selling Bale and bringing in a striker this summer. Now they are stuck with Bale and will find it hard to push him out of the club as no one else will pay his crazy wages or sign him for the 100m fee that Madrid will hope for.
Why have they not signed any defender, with Pepe leaving? What happens if one of Ramos or Varane suffers a major injury?
Having said that, they'll still dominate. Especially in the latter stages of the CL. They seem to be at their best in the latter stages of the season.
Having said that, they'll still dominate. Especially in the latter stages of the CL. They seem to be at their best in the latter stages of the season.
Jesus Vallejo returning on loan is supposed to make up for Pepe leaving.
They got too confident. They wanted to learn from their past mistakes of always bringing in a new Galactico just for the sake of it and went too far in the opposite direction by bringing no solid replacement for Morata. There's also the issue of motivation, Real Madrid have dominated so much since Zidane has taken over, and they're not getting any younger. This will be the biggest challenge of Zizou's young career as a manager, it'll be interesting to see if he can steer the ship. Barcelona is one injury away from slipping up as well but if they don't, Madrid will just focus everything on a 3rd CL in a row to save their season, which they may very well win again.
It could even get worse from here with a key injury to Modric or Kroos. For one of the best teams in the past 30 years, their depth is shite enough.
They have been very unlucky so far results wise but are still a top team, games like the one last night you win 90% of time with similar performance. Being 7 points behind is a problem but they are still a top team capable of winning every game. Some of the problems people are pointing out now after just a handful of games are actually the things they were praised for even recently.
They have Nacho and Vallejo, Theo Hernandez can play as CB too.
Haven't heard of him. Is he good ?
Yeah I am not complaining haha, but its a worry for Madrid fans they expecting another slog out of ronaldo and bale. While ronaldo is a good option to play upfront on occasions, think he does not like happy playing has a CF
This period will be the true showing of Zidane.
I said before it's easy to manage when you've got a team on top of the world, the best managers get them out of that slump and back to the top.
If he can recover this and still win the league then he's the real deal.
I said before it's easy to manage when you've got a team on top of the world, the best managers get them out of that slump and back to the top.
If he can recover this and still win the league then he's the real deal.
Can you imagine if we had results like these? This place would be actually a war zone.
Of course they will be okay, it's just a couple of matches. I wonder if their forums are in meltdown already and calling to sack Zidane, sell past it Ronaldo, never settled Bale and so on...
Of course they will be okay, it's just a couple of matches. I wonder if their forums are in meltdown already and calling to sack Zidane, sell past it Ronaldo, never settled Bale and so on...
Even then, to win back to back CL titles is still some feet no matter what. But the hype surrounding them I think has been a curse for Zidane, it got to the point PPL saying this current madrid side is better than prime barca 2009 and 2011. Its the same pattern we went through in 99 and 08, never quiet added what we should have. Its going to be asking allot of ronaldo, bale and benzema to really turn it on like they done between 2013-17, when PPL are saying ronaldo has to reserve his energy, and not playing him has an inside forward, its going to be a big test getting 50 plus games out of those 3
I see last season is forgotten. We had a number of frustrating draws last season especially at home.
Our whole last season was like that tbf.
He'll be their Sir Alex if they keep him for the next two decades(probably win more cause mega clubs have squads that are more loaded than before). Sadly he might go at some point cause their attackers have forgotten how to hit the back of the net. Ronaldo and Benzema are directly responsible for 5 of the 7 points dropped.
Won't be long before the fickle fans completely turn on him.
Zidane should offload Ronaldo. You can't develop young blood when he is trying to solely compete with Messi on goal count.
Bit like paying for your own petrol even after someone else offers to pay it for you.
Is that supposed to be a solution for their problems ?
Guy lived under a rock during the 13-14 season, I see.
They should be looking to phase him out ASAP. They should then start to rebuild around whatever they have or can get. He is not eternal. Age is going up. Injury chance going up. Performance is not degrading but it will. Also, team lacks energy. Team was build around supporting Ronaldo. Doesn't that get tired for others? I think other attacking players are sacrificing their potential so Ronaldo can get a high goal count. Real should transition next two years.
I remember at MU and Real game, Real fans were saying, "A win doesn't count if Ronaldo not in Team". They rely on him too much. So if they can't find a player with similar ability and 15 years younger, Real will lose competitive advantage once Ronaldo's performance degrades.
To be fair this place was a war zone during the 13-14 season.
They already have a very young core to take after Ronaldo in players like Asensio and Isco, but phasing Ronaldo now will complicate the problem not solving it at all. He's the only consistent goal scorer they have currently, and they don't have anyone who can replace his goals.
If anything, they should get rid of players like Bale and Benzema and replace them with better and younger players.
So they should off load the second best player in the world by miles, just because he competes with the best player in the world for goals.
That is a funny solution.
Cristiano while self indulged. Still has not reached that senile point where he is solely competing for just goals.
He is still by far the most valuable player for Real Madrid, at times I feel some people are really undervalue his contribution in Real Madrid's success.
He is 32. Real doesn't seem to have a plan B. Benzima and Bale are not getting younger. In 2 more years Benzema, Bale, and Ronaldo will be way past their prime. Are they gonna all of sudden bring in academy graduates? No. Are Asensio and Isco all of sudden gonna be Ronaldo 2.0s? No. Factor in adjustment cost, and age of entire team. It's going to take years for them to rebuild if they choose to depend on one player and neglect the progression of other attacking players. They are going to go through a more difficult transition if they don't phase Ronaldo sooner than later. If I was Real I would phase Ronaldo with Bale and find a transition to Bale in the next few years.
Here is something to keep in mind, SAF was super happy when Cantona retired when he did. I think with SAF he understood that you have to rebuild a team every few years. He mentions that he knew Cantona would be past his prime and it would better he retire now then drag it out. Since he was a fan favorite it would be hard to force him out if he stayed. So I think Ronaldo would be doing Real a favor if he stepped aside gracefully so they can transition someone in.
Another point, look Morata, it is only when he has become a starter for a team that he is truly building his skills. 10000 hour rule applies here. You can't all of sudden throw a bench warmer into key attacking positions as a starter and expect them to do well. Morata was smart he got out and now is developing his craft. Same for Lukaku.
Spanked by Tottenham in the CL
Think he's been sold short by the board or whoever is in charge of transfers.
They miss Carvaljal big time. They never replaced Pepe, Morata or Danilo. They needed another attacker regardless.
They miss Carvaljal big time. They never replaced Pepe, Morata or Danilo. They needed another attacker regardless.
Will he be gone soon? They look terrible.
Funny reading back at some of the comments when he first got the job! The man won two CLs 
He'll be gone sooner rather than later though - no one last more than three years at Real.
He'll be gone sooner rather than later though - no one last more than three years at Real.
I don't think so. He knows what to say in public and never rocks the boat. Team is complacent but so is the management handing out contract extensions to players like Benzema and not replacing goal scorers (Morata, James). It had to bite us in the ass at some point, so better sooner then later.
The league is gone unless Messi gets a long term innury but no matter how much we suck in CL I still have us as favorites (I always have us as favorites in CL).
There's time for the team to turn this around, but we do need to buy a striker in January, and I mean a striker that will actually get to play.
He doesn't have the same depth as last season but why doesn't he give Ceballos more chances?
Tactically super naive tonight.
Yeah I know he's won two CL's with Madrid but this is how quick it can turn in football. If Perez isn't happy there's only one way for Zidane.
Sacked in the morning.
This will be the chance to see just how good he is. Must say they've been all over the place off the ball in this match, shockingly low levels of intensity.
Cycle keeps going on with Madrid then. He won't be there next season.
Can't say he wasn't at fault in the market tbh.
Can't say he wasn't at fault in the market tbh.
Poch will be linked with the job.