Cop in America doing a bad job, again

---“I tell you what, it’s going to get to the point where I could shoot one of these motherfeckers,” Nucera said in the recording, according to the Root. “And that n****r bitch lady, she almost got it.”

That wasn’t the first time the police chief was recorded threatening to kill Black people, either.

“These n****s are like ISIS, they have no value,” he allegedly said after arresting a Black suspect in 2015, according to The Courier-Post. “They should line them all up and mow ’em all down. I’d like to be on the firing squad, I could do it.”---

https://www.dailydot.com/irl/new-jersey-police-chief-hate-crime/?fb=dd

Police chief faces hate crime charges after multiple reported racist incidents
 
MrMarcello said:
---“I tell you what, it’s going to get to the point where I could shoot one of these motherfeckers,” Nucera said in the recording, according to the Root. “And that n****r bitch lady, she almost got it.”

That wasn’t the first time the police chief was recorded threatening to kill Black people, either.

“These n****s are like ISIS, they have no value,” he allegedly said after arresting a Black suspect in 2015, according to The Courier-Post. “They should line them all up and mow ’em all down. I’d like to be on the firing squad, I could do it.”---

https://www.dailydot.com/irl/new-jersey-police-chief-hate-crime/?fb=dd

Police chief faces hate crime charges after multiple reported racist incidents
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what the actual f...
 
(CHICAGO) — One by one, the men told the same story: A Chicago police officer would demand money from them. And if they didn’t pay, they would find themselves in handcuffs with drugs stuffed in their pockets.

A Cook County judge on Thursday threw out the felony drug convictions of 15 black men who all say they were locked up for no other reason except that they refused to pay Ronald Watts.

It was the largest mass exoneration in memory in Chicago. And even in a city where it has become almost routine for police misconduct to lead to overturned convictions, the courthouse had never seen anything like the order issued in front of more than a dozen men whose lives were changed forever by the former sergeant.
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http://time.com/5028560/ronald-watts-chicago-police-extortion/?xid=fark_time
 
vi1lain said:
The American justice system has got to be the worst in the world, surely?
These cases happen far too often for a country that uses ‘Freedom’ as one of its founding principles.
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The US justice is designed to do one thing which to lock up Black & Latino men and force them to work for free. It's slavery.
 
Sweet Square said:
The US justice is designed to do one thing which to lock up Black & Latino men and force them to work for free. It's slavery.
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If you look back at the history of it, it's largely a spill over from alcohol prohibition where the sudden increase in prison population could not be met by the existing system so they introduced private prison franchises to rapidly increase the capacity. Once prohibition was over most societies would be happy to see their prison population drop and maybe even have to shut a prison or two but once business was involved it became a goal to try to maintain the prison population and in turn the profit, jobs and cheap produce/labour that system provided. It's one of the main reasons the war on drugs was taken up so aggressively and why the poor, black and latinos are policed and prosecuted so readily. Prison should never be operated as a for profit business but we're heading down the same route in the UK these days.
 
vi1lain said:
The American justice system has got to be the worst in the world, surely?
These cases happen far too often for a country that uses ‘Freedom’ as one of its founding principles.
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Worst in what way? Maybe in the developed world, yea. It's definitely ineffective, overburdened, and tedious. I dread having to go to court because i see how retarded and painstakingly slow the process is
 
choiboyx012 said:
Worst in what way? Maybe in the developed world, yea. It's definitely ineffective, overburdened, and tedious. I dread having to go to court because i see how retarded and painstakingly slow the process is
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Worst in every way.
The sheer amount of prisoners is far too much.
Poor people are jailed and can't afford the bail so they have to stay in prison, which in turn can ruin their life in lots of different ways.
The cheap labour.
The profit system.
The morality surrounding the death penalty.

We could go on and on.

I mean countries which are ran by dictators/tyrants are certainly more extreme in which they'll jail people for simply disagreeing with the government/leader or whatever.
But on a relative comparison basis, surely the most powerful country in the world should have a justice system that's much better than it currently is?

Or am I asking for too much?
 
vi1lain said:
Worst in every way.
The sheer amount of prisoners is far too much.
Poor people are jailed and can't afford the bail so they have to stay in prison, which in turn can ruin their life in lots of different ways.
The cheap labour.
The profit system.
The morality surrounding the death penalty.

We could go on and on.

I mean countries which are ran by dictators/tyrants are certainly more extreme in which they'll jail people for simply disagreeing with the government/leader or whatever.
But on a relative comparison basis, surely the most powerful country in the world should have a justice system that's much better than it currently is?

Or am I asking for too much?
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Yup. Much like the gun control debate it's too little too late unfortunately.
 
choiboyx012 said:
Yup. Much like the gun control debate it's too little too late unfortunately.
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There's a strange dichotomy at play there. On one hand the right to bear arms is a big symbolism of freedom, yet an unfair justice system is as far from freedom as you can get.
 
This isn't to do with the police specifically, but Travyon Martin's murder seemed to have kicked off this wave of coverage and disbelief etc about how shooting black people isn't apparently a punishable offense. This video goes into some detail about the Martin case and Zimmerman's defence. I heard the whole thing while working, it's like a podcast. And his voice is super soothing.
 
vi1lain said:
Worst in every way.
The sheer amount of prisoners is far too much.
Poor people are jailed and can't afford the bail so they have to stay in prison, which in turn can ruin their life in lots of different ways.
The cheap labour.
The profit system.
The morality surrounding the death penalty.

We could go on and on.

I mean countries which are ran by dictators/tyrants are certainly more extreme in which they'll jail people for simply disagreeing with the government/leader or whatever.
But on a relative comparison basis, surely the most powerful country in the world should have a justice system that's much better than it currently is?

Or am I asking for too much?
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The whole system is rotten from top to bottom.

Problem #1 is how ridiculously easy it is to become a cop in certain areas in the US. Lack of proper background checks, psychological screening and stupidly short academy training programs means a lot of people who never should have been police officers can become one in 6 months or so. In other words, plenty of racists/bigots who has a gun and a badge over there

Problem #2 is of course the widespread gun violence in the US. It makes cops twitchy and nervous, which is why they end up shooting people reaching for their pockets or glove compartments

Problem #3 is how police training is done in the US. Instead of training focusing on deescalating a potentially dangerous situation they do the complete opposite by going for the extreme solution right away.

Problem #4 is the ridiculous "three strikes" system where you can end up in jail for A LONG time over minor infractions. Basically creating criminals

Problem #5 is the prison industrial complex which is a very lucrative business and prisoners are a commodity to be bought and sold. In other words, they need a steady supply of prisoners to make money. There are plenty of examples of police precinct having certain quotas to fill both in terms of fines and arrests

Problem #6 is that US prisons are fecking terrible and based on punishment rather than rehabilitation so naturally recidivism rates are incredibly high

Basically it's a system that attacks and not protects it's citizens
 
Eboue said:
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Ah, is this the 'definitely not racist' Ben Shapiro, back at it again?

Bobcat said:
The whole system is rotten from top to bottom.

Problem #1 is how ridiculously easy it is to become a cop in certain areas in the US. Lack of proper background checks, psychological screening and stupidly short academy training programs means a lot of people who never should have been police officers can become one in 6 months or so. In other words, plenty of racists/bigots who has a gun and a badge over there

Problem #2 is of course the widespread gun violence in the US. It makes cops twitchy and nervous, which is why they end up shooting people reaching for their pockets or glove compartments

Problem #3 is how police training is done in the US. Instead of training focusing on deescalating a potentially dangerous situation they do the complete opposite by going for the extreme solution right away.

Problem #4 is the ridiculous "three strikes" system where you can end up in jail for A LONG time over minor infractions. Basically creating criminals

Problem #5 is the prison industrial complex which is a very lucrative business and prisoners are a commodity to be bought and sold. In other words, they need a steady supply of prisoners to make money. There are plenty of examples of police precinct having certain quotas to fill both in terms of fines and arrests

Problem #6 is that US prisons are fecking terrible and based on punishment rather than rehabilitation so naturally recidivism rates are incredibly high

Basically it's a system that attacks and not protects it's citizens
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You've laid out the points very coherently that explain the problem with the system, it's not designed to protect it's most vulnerable and at risk citizens at all.
Quite frankly, looking at it's history, it never was.
 
Feds: Indicted gun task force officer planted drugs, duped Baltimore Det. Suiter into finding them

New charges have been filed against an indicted member of the Baltimore Police gun task force, alleging that in 2010 he set up Det. Sean Suiter by planting drugs on a suspect after a high-speed chase and crash.

In a new indictment unsealed Thursday afternoon, prosecutors wrote that then-Detective Wayne Jenkins told a third officer that he was going to send “Officer #1” to search the car because he was “clueless” that Jenkins had planted drugs.

“Jenkins knew the heroin [in the car] had been planted,” prosecutors wrote.

Though Suiter is not named in the new documents, Jenkins wrote in charging documents filed in 2010 that Suiter found heroin in the car. The suspect, Umar Burley, was convicted and sentenced to 15 years in prison as a result of the charges.

Records show Burley’s case was reactivated in August, and he was released from custody. Prosecutors on Thursday filed a motion to vacate his conviction and the conviction of another man who was with him.

Jenkins’ attorney Steve Levin declined to comment on the new accusations.

The Sun first reported on the new activity in the Burley case last week.

Commissioner Kevin Davis said at a news conference that Suiter was “set up” by Jenkins to find the drugs, and was not involved “in any way, shape, or form.”

“That’s a damn shame,” Davis said.

Suiter, a decorated 18-year veteran, was killed in an alley on Nov. 15, and Police Commissioner Kevin Davis said federal authorities disclosed to him that Suiter was killed one day before he was scheduled to testify before a federal grand jury investigating the gun task force. Davis said he was told Suiter was not a target of the grand jury, and there was no evidence to suggest Suiter was set up or that his killing was related to his scheduled testimony.

But questions around two cases continue to swirl. Earlier Thursday, Council President Bernard “Jack” Young and Councilman Brandon Scott called on the Suiter case to be turned over to the FBI.
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I've just seen the video of Daniel Shaver being killed on my timeline, by a cop who had 'you're fecked' on his gun. Shocking. And he was tried and wasn't convicted.
 
Baxter said:
I've just seen the video of Daniel Shaver being killed on my timeline, by a cop who had 'you're fecked' on his gun. Shocking. And he was tried and wasn't convicted.
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Just saw it too



It's hard to not be pro death penalty after seeing this.
 
Rob said:
Holy shit.. How on earth wasn't he convicted?:wenger:
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Am guessing something along the lines of he did not follow instructions clearly or reaching for his back when he clearly was asked not to do it.

The way the cop casually just walks past him after shooting him. Jesus!
 
berbatrick said:
Just saw it too



It's hard to not be pro death penalty after seeing this.
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Fecking hell. I'm baffled by the sheer tone of the cop too, he's just so overly aggressive with his instructions. No calmness whatsoever.
 
VorZakone said:
Fecking hell. I'm baffled by the sheer tone of the cop too, he's just so overly aggressive with his instructions. No calmness whatsoever.
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The amount of times he said 'or we will shoot you' or something similar is telling. Almost like he was looking for any excuse.
 
That's absolutely disgusting.

Why not approach him when he's lay on the floor or even with his hands in the air and cuff him, rather than making him crawl on the floor and then shoot him for instinctively pulling up his shorts as they dragged on the floor.

The disconnect from the cop to what he's doing is terrifying.
 
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