Manchester City 17/18 discussion | "If you're here for the Champions clap your hands" (#6505)
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) is joined by CEO Duncan Drasdo and Financial Director Andy Green from the Manchester United Supporters Trust for a special episode on all things behind the scenes at Old Trafford including a brief history of MUST and their aims today, views on INEOS and Sir Jim Ratcliffe so far, and the Old Trafford regeneration.
Mate. All clubs do it on their rivals. Nothing different to what Lingard orchestrated last season.
They can sing about our tactics once they win as much trophies as we have.
So small time, yes they’ve had a good run and broken a record and are top of the league but until they conquer like Barcelona have done in past seasons they really should keep their heads down and take each game as it comes. Its December and nothing should be taken for granted!
So small time, yes they’ve had a good run and broken a record and are top of the league but until they conquer like Barcelona have done in past seasons they really should keep their heads down and take each game as it comes. Its December and nothing should be taken for granted!
feck. If something similar went down last week, I can see why Mourinho and our players started a fight. Ibra should have used his karate skills on the feckers.
Wow, that is incredibly small time.
Many, many times, over 100 as a kid, and lots of money over the years thousands of £, I guess.
And that's from '86 onwards.
Is that enough for you? What about your good self?
One set of fans accuse of the others doing 'small times' stuff that they do at other times as well.
Football fans...
Football fans...
I don't even know where to begin. This just smacks of bitterness. City's performances aren't an indictment towards the quality of the league but rather how much they have improved. Its a common consensus that English teams are finally on the up and up in Europe yet an undoubtedly quality City side proves that the league is rubbish? We just gotta accept that this is a great City team. The true quality of the team will be determined if and when they get to the latter stages of the CL but for now their talent is there for all to see.
Its a tribal thing mate. There's nothing more hypocritical than a football fan. We're a strange breed.
I get that it is a tribal thing and it is pretty stupid at times. Maybe I am too old for that shit now.
Now move on to talk/read some republicans and trump's supporters...
In my defence I wasn't one of those City fans but yeah I'm starting to understand alright.
Perspective™:
Guardian said:
Thank you so much for saying this. I don't want to sound like a broken drum repeating the same thing, but it is absolutely ludicrous for United fans to continuously use the oil money thing as a way to diminish the achievements of City. It is admirable that United has obtained such financial weight based on its footballing merits but it the sky revolution in the 90's played a huge part. I can imagine that fans of other teams back in the 90's when Fergie was spending millions on players would complain that United is spending "commercial revenue". When it comes to foreign investment, people complain only when that foreign investor invests heavily on players. They never do it when it's a rich owner that doesn't invest a massive amount in player personnel. Also saying things like city investment is from dirty oil money, etc is a hypocritical stance on moral authority because someone can easily make the same claim on sponsorship from Nike. (Sweatshops, human rights violations, etc) Whether it is an oil tycoon or a rich brand conglomerate, the reality is that once obscene amounts of money entered football, it changed the rules for everybody. It is extremely naive to think otherwise, so brown nosing the various forms foreign investment is just stupid and fails to recognize the precedent that was set before it.
How is it "small time"? They are dominating the league in a way I have never seen before. They have every right to gloat (just as we do when we win)
What did they do ?
we can moan about oil money all we want but that's a disservice to this group of players playing together under this manager. they are performing incredibly well and frankly deserve the title more than any other team in the PL in recent memory.
More than Foxes title...? Really?
A bunch of oil bank rolled divas that fall down after every 50-50 they lose, vs one of the biggest and warmest underdog achievements in football history?
Madness.
Leicester was a more romantic win but they weren't better than this City squad. no chance.
Tottenham were arguably better than that Leicester team that year, or at least were very close - City have no equal this year.
But to say they 'deserve the title more than other team in recent memory' just seems odd compared to Foxes title.
They did it against all odds, had to dig very deep, showed grit, and played some great footy.
City have bought the PL with good spending and good planning. Fair enough, but it's hardly that great an achievement. They've spent more than anyone else in the league, including us, so they should be winning it.
im ignoring money (we really can't talk in that regard), I'm saying they deserve it more based on their play and dominance only.
leicester had an incredible run but there was a lot of fortune in their win, and was partly due to the fact other teams were rebuilding. city are just dominant, and clearly the best team in the league, more so than any other team in recent memory.
You know money talk is real to be fair.... up to certain point.
Remember how we said similar of jose's first chelsea team back then?
People don't talk about it much anymore. All they talk about now is usually how amazing that team was.
It kind of helps because their manager is ours now, I think? And we overcame them within 3 years.
Remember how we said similar of jose's first chelsea team back then?
People don't talk about it much anymore. All they talk about now is usually how amazing that team was.
It kind of helps because their manager is ours now, I think? And we overcame them within 3 years.
money is irrelevant to me. we're way richer than most teams. we don't use that as an excuse as to why we've been histortically great.
United have a rich history, but we weren't always rich during that history.
feck these blue bertie shites and anyone caught praising them on this forum should be hung upside down and quartered infront of a baying blood thirsty crowd of United fans
i just don't see how we of all clubs should use money as a way to denigrate something. it seems an easy shot. despite how they've been put together, they're a bunch of footballers playing well together under the management of a great coach. we could have easily bought de bruyne, silva, jesus, or aguero. we didn't. we bought other players.
How does a Guardiola team look more tenacious than a Mourinho team? I mean they always played the better football but this City side seams to even have more grit than our team by far.
Mou can complain about them falling over a lot but at least they fecking fight for every god damn ball on the pitch.
Mou can complain about them falling over a lot but at least they fecking fight for every god damn ball on the pitch.
They press more effectively and keep the ball better. Like at Barcelona it's a deadly combination.
Hate to admit it, but they are playing some amazing football these days. I only watch them when they play the bigger games, and they have taken every team head on and outplayed most of them (that Pool game could have been very different if it were not for the Mane red card).
Both Jose and Pep have spent loads of money on their respective teams. While Jose has certainly improved us, Pep has taken their team to a whole new level. And the worst part is, a lot of their good players are young, and they can only get better.
They played without Silva and Stones yesterday, and it hardly made a difference. Meanwhile the difference is night and day when we don’t play Pogba. I doubt we can catch them this season, but we have to be spot on with our signings and tactics by next season. Might as well buy our targets in January, so that they can be settled by next season.
Both Jose and Pep have spent loads of money on their respective teams. While Jose has certainly improved us, Pep has taken their team to a whole new level. And the worst part is, a lot of their good players are young, and they can only get better.
They played without Silva and Stones yesterday, and it hardly made a difference. Meanwhile the difference is night and day when we don’t play Pogba. I doubt we can catch them this season, but we have to be spot on with our signings and tactics by next season. Might as well buy our targets in January, so that they can be settled by next season.
Thank you Joe
Bastards; they could end up winning the league by about thirty points. Didn't see their game last night, but I'm told they ripped Spurs to bits.
We just need to worry about our own results, ensure we qualify top four and see continuous improvement.
We just need to worry about our own results, ensure we qualify top four and see continuous improvement.
Perspective is good but that article fails to use context. The league is different every year. Chelsea last season got far more points than our 99 team but noone would argue that it was a better team. So no chance this United team is close.
We've made progress but just random statistics without context actually give a distorted perspective.
You can't knock this off though.
We could be the best 2nd team in the history of EPL. Many will remember this shit for all generations to come.
I guess that's understandable. Winning a European trophy is nothing compared to the '15 games in a row' trophies they've started handing out this season, is it?
That makes no sense, there is no such thing as deserving it more when it comes to a league title. Each trophy has its history. Every team that end up winning it deserve it just as much as the previous winners.
No one will because we aren't. Points totals aren't everything. We aren't a patch on the teams that finished second in the United Arsenal rivalry, teams who had won league titles and weren't average when up against any good teams.