The Affordable Act was a more pressing problem, and Dems are/were divided when it comes to guns. Mass shootings also happened less frequently.
Also what is that big legacy of Teddy Roosevelt?
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Also what is that big legacy of Teddy Roosevelt?
It always ends up like this. So depressing. 17 dead and you know nothing will change.
Not sure if your question deserves a reply. His presidency is considered to be one of top 5. He even won the Nobel Peace Prize back when only extremely deserving people received it for good, concrete, outstanding work and when it was not simply given to clowns like Obama.
He spoke about progressive values and policies right from the last decade of the 19th century. He is one of the founders of modern progressivism. He brought environment protection into national and as a result global consciousness. I suggest you do a bit of reading on the Square Deal which was what the New Deal was based on. He's one of the founders of modern progressivism.
They had more than 55 seats when they had the Senate. Surely 3-5 more votes would have been possible as Obama was always wanking about "reaching across the aisle" and not seeing "red and blue".
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So again you're basing his entire 8 year period on that 4 months?
Yeah Trump is such a joke that clowns like Obama will be seen much more positively. Not for long though. If competent people like Sanders become president then things will settle down. That poll is very reactionary. People will not remember Obama the way they remember Lincoln, Teddy Roosevelt, FDR and LBJ. Apart from the fact that he was the first mixed race bloke to become president.
I thought I already said I wasn't? They had the Senate for 6 years right? For the remaining 2 years they could have done something if they wanted to?
I'm basing his tenure on his entire 8 year period.
Just cause you have no idea what Obama actually did doesnt make him a "massive" failure.
People will not remember Obama the way they remember Lincoln, Teddy Roosevelt, FDR and LBJ. Apart from the fact that he was the first mixed race bloke to become president.
Firstly he took over at the worst time possible. He took over from the idiot that was Bush, who drove this country into a massive trillion dollar debt cause he went to war with someone who he had a personal vendetta against. When Clinton left office, the country had a huge surplus. During Bush's tenure the country went from a booming economy to a debt ridden recession era. Obama reversed that. He signed the ARRA in 2009 which was a $787 billion stimulus package. The unemployment was around 10% when he took over. By the time he was done it was down to 4.5%.
He created the Obamacare which is his legacy cause he was the main reason more than 30 million (10% of the country) have health insurance today. He did so much for the veterans unlike this current asshole who just talks and doesnt do shit. He reduced the homeless rate of veterans close to 50%. He increased federal budgets for services provided to veterans. Or how about the fact that he signed the Dodd-Frank Wall Street Reform Act?
Osama Bin Laden was killed during this tenure, he overthrew Kaddafi, he ended the war in Iraq and started the removal of troops from Afghanistan. He helped restore the US auto industry by injecting federal money into their programs which created over a 100,000 in the first year alone for the auto industry. How about the fact that he fought for marriage equality? USA legalized gay marriages during his tenure. How about DACA - cause of which over 5 million people were able to legally obtain work permits or the fact that he helped negotiate the Iran nuclear deal? How about the fact that he made America more energy efficient and focused more on reusable and sustainable technology?
These are just from the top of my head. I am pretty sure if I delve deeper I can find more. He wasnt the greatest President, but he did a good job especially the fact that he was met with Republicans not wanting to cooperate with him at every single turn. He already had so much pressure and scrutiny on him being the first black President and on top of that he had to deal with these right wing assholes. So give the man a break and stop comparing him to the Presidents who were there before 1970.
Why do you feel Bernie Sanders is competent? I honestly have no idea, what has he done in his political career that leads you to think that he would be a competent world leader?
People will not remember Obama the way they remember Lincoln, Teddy Roosevelt, FDR and LBJ. Apart from the fact that he was the first mixed race bloke to become president.
Edit: don't reply here bro as I've realised its the wrong thread for that. You're more than welcome to pm me your answer though.
No way.
Republicans, Democrats, doesn't matter who is in charge. They're both running on insanely rampant Capitalist software. Both sides are shit governments when viewed from a global standpoint.
The country is broken. They are so wedded to permanent growth that they cannot escape it. The military, education, healthcare industries operate on models that are unsustainable in terms of making the citizens of the country, better off. Theyre designed to empty people's pockets to profit the elite.
No government is going to help America because both choices are barely better than each other. The end result is always the same.
What does this even mean ?
Of course change can take place. It will happen if a large enough amount of one party and a President of the same party are elected at the same time. That hasn't happened in a while, but when it does, the needle will move.
People will not remember Obama the way they remember Lincoln, Teddy Roosevelt, FDR and LBJ. Apart from the fact that he was the first mixed race bloke to become president.
You do know it's like, not the only poll that's been done? And that ranking (and others) was obtained through a consensus of historians and political scientists?
This is one of my favorite topics, but you're so clueless on this that I'm weighing the potential agony of discussing Obama's ranking with you.
Apparently the armed school resource officer ran away. This puts a big hole in armed teachers arguments
Indeed. Has been suspended and has immediately resigned.
And when a deranged teacher goes on a killing spree, they will bring up mental health issues again and then talk about putting guns in the kids's hands.
If he follows through on this, I'll have massive respect for the man.
He came out on national TV, took his kicks and patiently let the victims air out the grievances at his expense. Not a single other Republican did.
He came out on national TV, took his kicks and patiently let the victims air out the grievances at his expense. Not a single other Republican did.
When I was younger I believed in some of the "good guy hero with a gun" spiel. But growing up and reading news about how random gun-related events go down, I realized what this is another example of: the share of people who could ever successfully counter an armed assailant is very slim, even among police officers (which is partly why SWAT teams exist). Most people would just cower, and that's no great demerit.
He says this like it's a bad thing.
I like Obama, but I'm not sure you can really justify him having a top 10 spot. He didn't really get to do anything. He was hamstrung by a confrontational congress for 6 of his 8 years. I think a big reason he is getting that bump is as a reaction to Trump. Trump is so bad, Obama looks great.
Is the MeToo movement gonna have massive piles of dark money to help fund it along like the TP movement?
He is the senator from FL. Its his state that the shooting happened in. Of course he is the only one who is going to come out. Also massive respect for a piece of shit who took over a $1 million in his 2016 re-election campaign from the NRA? Respect for a man who wouldnt say he will not continue to take donations from the NRA? Respect for a man who talks about the bare minimum he can do to gun reform just so he can say on live TV that I am "talking" about this stuff without actually doing anything?
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He's being contextually overrated because he was remarkably intelligent, he was black and seemed to have good intentions. And of course he was miles better than Dubya and Trump. Set the bar low then hand out the Nobels.
I'll remember him as all the other previous recent presidents. A man who ordered the killing of thousands of brown people thousands of miles away.
What does being black have to do with overrated? Come to think of it whats overrated got to do any of those things you mentioned? If you are intelligent and kind and black you will be overrated?
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I feel ashamed for dignifying Trump's suggestions (especially when he tweets about 'cost' as if we should appreciate his money-saving acumen) but don't some of the school shooters wear body armour?
That's nonsense. I'm not putting him in the top 5. However I think his record is enough to put him in the 2nd tier along with Reagan, Johnson, Polk and co.
Nah Killary took all the Soros funds for herself
To be fair, there will be nowhere for me to run.
The fact he was the first black president gives him a slightly different, and therefore maybe an elevated, perception. Everyone remembers the 'first', whether its black, woman, differently sexually inclined. Sadiq Khan is kind of getting that here. And despite him being a mate of mine (grew up together and entered football competitions, etc) he's not doing that much more than Boris, Ken, etc. But he's got a different perception.
Imagine living the rest of your life knowing you were the only hope that could have saved kids lives but you bricked it and ran away.
I fear we may hear terrible news concerning him within a few years.
I fear we may hear terrible news concerning him within a few years.
He did not run away, he waited outside the building. In all fairness that is what most cops armed with an handgun would do. Secure the perimeter and wait for SWAT to arrive. Engaging someone with an AR15 when you just have an handgun is madness. During the the 1994 Hollywood bank robbery two assailants with AKs kept literally dozens of cops armed with handguns pinned down. The cops had to go to local gun shops to borrow long range rifles.
The officer at that school did not follow his training whatsoever. They absolutely are expected in that situation to engage the active shooter.
I’ve been through the training with our county sheriff’s dept at our school and have the luxury of having many conversations about the topic with our SRO, as he’s part of my coaching staff. He’s disgusted by the news that that officer stayed outside.
What's the point of an armed bloke on campus if he doesn't engage? That's his actual job.
Trouble is now the full weight of blame will fall on him as yet another distraction away from the real problem.
Trouble is now the full weight of blame will fall on him as yet another distraction away from the real problem.
In my case my office doesn't have windows -no where to go and i will use a screwdriver as a weapon.
Obvious the guy is a coward
Yet real cops rarely enter a buildings when they are out gunned. Seems pretty unrealistic to expect one guy with a handgun to engage an active shooter(s) with an AR15. A rifle has more range, more accuracy and about three times the power of a 9mm.
Dude... the School Resource Officers are real cops. They are County sheriff’s department deputies.
It doesn’t matter what seems unrealistic to you, I know for a fact exactly what they are trained to do.
So he knew a guy was inside the school with a rifle? I believe police officers use 45’s and not 9mm
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