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100% agree. Guardiola should be charged since it's a blatant rule break but the poppy furore they've kicked up might give Guardiola a decent argument if he wants to really fight them.
FA charge is interesting, they've already given people the right to wear the poppy so as said above could open a can of worms.
be interesting to see what the outcome is, when / if they fine him I really think he'll keep wearing it
It's an absurd comparison.
I can't bring myself to care about points hauls and unbeaten record. It's chelsea and arsenal winning the league that bothered. Not the records.
How so?
Guardiolas yellow ribbon represents a clear stand about being allowed to vote for catalonias independence, in what is an ongoing political situation in Spain.
The Poppy represents a nation mourning those who have fallen
The Poppy is as much a political statement as Guardiola's ribbon. Witness the furore if a public figure (say a politician or perhaps an Eire international) doesn't wear one. Given the stance the FA has taken for international games on the wearing of poppies, it is indeed hypocritical to charge Guardiola yet consider poppies to be fair game, when they are clearly used as jingoistic political capital, including to attempt to garner support for current military action, by politicians.
Not all people agree with that definition, and that's the problem IMO. cf the likes of James Mclean.
You've misunderstood James then
"“I would wear it every day of the year if that was the thing but it doesn’t. It stands for all the conflicts that Britain has been involved in. Because of the history where I come from in Derry, I cannot wear something that represents that.”"
No, it's not. It's not about right or wrong, it's about remembering those who have fallen. Guardiola is openly supporting voting for independence in an ongoing political debate.
I mean he doesn't agree with the sentiment of mourning all of Britain's fallen, which would include (in his case) casualties during the Troubles. For some others, some conflicts post-WW2 are nebulous in terms of controversy.
And ? It's hardly breaking news that not everyone agrees on something. It's miles away from the issue regarding the political debate about Catalonias independence...
It's only an absurd comparison if you see the poppy as solely a memorial. Lots of people don't. I'll say no more as I don't want to start a political debate. As I said it will be interesting to see how this plays out.
Was just saying I'd rather win any treble every season, regardless of prestige over nothing.
Just sounded like more moaning to me. Forum is littered with it.
Are City fans confident of a Cup win tomorrow?
Is the FA Cup defeat last year to an embattled Wenger worrying?
Is the FA Cup defeat last year to an embattled Wenger worrying?
No and yes.
No and no.
And yourself?
My wife is going with me. I think she's a jinx. Hopefully, its a good exciting game. Its definitely going to be cold in that queue to Wembley Park post-game!
Yes and No.
I have no confidence at all. Its a prepare for the worst and hope for a miracle game for me. I am jealous you are going see it live. I'd love to catch a cup final at Wembley one of these days (but I live in the wrong hemisphere)
I thought my wife was a jinx after taking her the 2013 FA final vs Wigan. I know now she wasn’t!
Crazy stat that.
Confident today, not really. The league this season was a good game with not a huge amount in it. I think Lacazette has the pace to cause our back 4 trouble and if Ozil is on song it could be a tough afternoon. That said we have the quality to hurt anyone (except Wigan) and I think we'll score today for certain. 2-1 either way.
Does last seasons loss matter? Not a bit. Played lots of games since then and beaten you guys so I'd say it doesn't.
I'm expecting us to dominate the ball but Arsenal to show initiative when they do have it. Much will come down to who scores first. I think if we score first we'll win quite comfortably, if Arsenal score first, I think they'll edge it.
I absolutely despise Arsene (though I like Arsenal as a club) because of his constant City jealousy and pettiness about it in interviews. So for that reason alone, I hope we win 8-0 with 8 offside goals.
Does last seasons loss matter? Not a bit. Played lots of games since then and beaten you guys so I'd say it doesn't.
I'm expecting us to dominate the ball but Arsenal to show initiative when they do have it. Much will come down to who scores first. I think if we score first we'll win quite comfortably, if Arsenal score first, I think they'll edge it.
I absolutely despise Arsene (though I like Arsenal as a club) because of his constant City jealousy and pettiness about it in interviews. So for that reason alone, I hope we win 8-0 with 8 offside goals.
Lacazette is injured, Aubameyang will start.
Sorry I meant Auba.. brainfart. If anything he's faster and probably better at outpacing our CB's. For me Kompany can't play today, so I'm hoping we go with Otamendi (not the quickest but not as rash as Kompany) and Laporte at the back.
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2018/feb/26/pep-guardiola-fa-yellow-ribbon-manchester-city
St Pep could face tougher sanctions, which will be paid for by his lovely employers.
St Pep could face tougher sanctions, which will be paid for by his lovely employers.
That journalist deserves serious credit for having the balls to ask him those questions. No doubt the questions are ok although the journalist had obviously upset a lot of City fans judging by him having to explain why he asked it.
Guardiola's response was piss poor. "Every country decides the way they want to live for themselves. If he decides to live in that (country) it is what it is." Yeah, all of the migrant workers who get abused in a country chose to live there so feck them. Anyone who was sympathy for Qatar gets upto 15 years in jail and women are routinely abused but that's fine cos the country chose to live that way, even though they are ruled over by a monarchy with the people having no say.
Guardiola's response was piss poor. "Every country decides the way they want to live for themselves. If he decides to live in that (country) it is what it is." Yeah, all of the migrant workers who get abused in a country chose to live there so feck them. Anyone who was sympathy for Qatar gets upto 15 years in jail and women are routinely abused but that's fine cos the country chose to live that way, even though they are ruled over by a monarchy with the people having no say.
Honest question about City, which I'm sure has been asked/answered countless of times over the years:
Why did ADUG decide to acquire Manchester City out of all possible clubs in England? Wouldn't Aston Villa or Leeds United make more sense based on market/potential fan base?
Why did ADUG decide to acquire Manchester City out of all possible clubs in England? Wouldn't Aston Villa or Leeds United make more sense based on market/potential fan base?
The other names in the frame were Arsenal, Newcastle and Everton. A big part of the decision to choose City was the large tracts of land around the stadium that could be profitably developed.
Bang on. Pathetic answer from footballs favourite hypocrite.
Wanted to be close to the big dogs
Also the fact that Manchester United are recognisable worldwide. I think they hoped people wouldn’t notice the one word difference.
No fan of Guardiola, but what he said wasn't entirely wrong. Many immigrants to the UAE know what they are getting themselves into. One of the country's policies is to seize their passports and withhold them for the duration of the employment -- "come into my parlor, said the spider to the fly" type of situation.
In contrast, Spain is a democracy and Guardiola was pointing out what he considers a breach of democracy (btw, I have no opinion regarding Catalonian independence one way or another). What they do in the UAE is just a ruthless law and not a breach of the country's established policies. It is wrong ofc, but the comparison with Spain does not hold.
The problem is that many of the migrants are poor and desperate, yes they may know that they'll be taken advantage of but that in no way makes it ok to take advantage of the desperate.
Under the Spanish constitution, which Catalonia voted to accept, the Catalonian referendum was illegal. The Spanish response was poor but the people Guardiola is defending did break the law. That's not me taking sides either, but it's hypocritical to complain about the issues in one country as a "breach of democracy" because it's a country exercising it's power while at the same time being ok with another country that's doing the exact same thing but 100x worse.
He should have stayed on football topic. This is not the place for political statements.
Who play like toy poodles ATM.
toy poodles, I'd say pot noodles.
The free, almost new, stadium would have played a large part in the decision.
Maine Road was a wreck. It wouldn't project a good image spending hundreds of millions on players yet playing in a ground that was so decrepit.
Mansour lucked out though. He was probably looking at spending a few hundred million to expand capacity. Alot better than spending nearly a Billion on a totally new ground. As it is he has spent a few million on a small expansion which is rarely sold out. He has no need to try to expand the stadium to 60K + as demand isn't there. Has saved himself a small fortune. .