[MarcusRashford]

Man, I am absolutely gutted now. I went to the pub, called up a few friends and told them in advance look fellas thanks for watching the game with me (none of them are United fans) but this will be an easy win for United. I really expected us to win comfortably. Well joke was on me later on.

I cant remember the last time a game made me this sad. Probably when I was a kid when United got eliminated by Monaco.

This was just horrid and it was all 100 % inexplicable tactics. My friends laughed at Fellaini playing but what I found most infuriating was Sanchez on the left. When Rashord was on the right, even when he was in good positon, you could always tell he was second guessing himself because he simply isn't as comfortable there.

The whole pub was mocking me cuz I was the only United fan there but what can you say, at the end of it all, after 2 games Sevilla was comfortably a much better side. It is what it is but what really sucks is that it was all because of tactics and the manager being absolutely inept and absolutely the wrong manager for the United team. We have much better players but we got absolutely outclassed.

Sevilla was a much better team in the first game and also a better team at Old Trafford.

The better team won and thats all there is to it. The sooner Mourinho is gone the better.

 

[VanUtd]

Can anybody explain to me why Mourinho has such an enormous amount of credit?

Dispicable character, charisma of a dried up turd, anti-football coach and a coward who will never take any of the blame.

Sick of this shit every week. Counting the days till he's gone.

 

[The red panther]

Mourinho deserves that. You can't dish out insults (funny as they may be) and then not expect someone to fire back when you serve up tumescent shite like tonight.

The thing is what Mourinho said isn't actually true in the sense that De Boer really isn't such a bad coach and certainly not the worst we have seen in the PL.

What De Boer is saying here is completley true. He has spend a fortune on players and his team is still playing like this, tumescent boring, uninspiring football.

 

[tony54]

I couldn't understand why Rashford was on the right after playing so well on the left. Why can't Mourino play the same, best team, in the same positions for more than one game. When Pogba came on the team lost any shape they had and he just didn't look as though he wasn't interested, not running into open space to be passed to. He must go.
I suppose we all could see this coming after a season of dismal tactics with a very few splashes of good form.
Roll on next season.

 

[K2K]

Oh shit, that's why Gerard was defending us, we've actually become Liverpool.
Can we rename this place Red And White Stretford?

I'm going to stop moaning now haha.
It's just a game. It's just a game. It's just a game...

I've already tried that trick myself.

Does my hurt any less.

 

[Ban]

Can anybody explain to me why Mourinho has such an enormous amount of credit?

Dispicable character, charisma of a dried up turd, anti-football coach and a coward who will never take any of the blame.

Sick of this shit every week. Counting the days till he's gone.

Please just don't say you're a LVG fan.

Clue: location.

 

[Reynoldo]

Sad thing is people saying its better we went out cos we would have been hammered by one the big boys might not even have been true, Mou could have pulled off one of his tactical masterclasses against those teams. He just had to realise that tonight was not the night for one of those games. It would have been the easiest and most natural things to do just to let the same team from the weekend have a go from the start once again but he had to try and impose his special tactics on this game when it wasn't needed. And for that I'm gutted as I think he could have pulled it off next round against one of the big boys, just sad he didn't trust his players to go out there have a go and easily push past Seville tonight.

 

[Jazz]

Forgot to congratulate Sevilla amidst my earlier rant. They very much deserved it and good luck to them in the quarter finals.

 

[Manny]

I remember slating Spurs for being embarrassing after going behind to Juve at home.

Never did I think we would out do them for the entire 90 minutes.

 

[VanUtd]

Please just don't say you're a LVG fan.

Clue: location.

Never.

 

[Okey]

I'm convinced even this current United team would perform better if they were differently coached and prepared. We're Man United for goodness sake. We can't be playing like a scared mid table side. Even if it gets us a trophy or two along the way, I don't know how long the club can accept this negative approach. Something has to change. We the fans need to be excited at watching our team again. When we walked out of Old Trafford after City beat us 6-1, we held our heads high knowing we went down fighting, and couldn't wait for revenge. These days we win and struggle to raise a smile, wincing through most of the experience. Something has to give...

 

[CA_vampire]

I don't blame Jose. I blame the players. They lost most duels. The misplaced passes. Pogba was horrendous. Sanchez was anonymous. Rashford is still inconsistent.

 

[Lennon7]

He could be arsed at Juve so why can't he be arsed at United ? Maybay it is on Mourinho aswell ?

Ever think that this ultra negative type of football also effects the players motivation ? I mean someone like Pogba likes to have a bit of freedom, he likes to play with a bit of risk if you try to train that all out of him you simply destroy the great player he can be. Also it is clear he isn't in his best form and is carring a bit of an injurry, couldn't fully train and possibly just wasn't ready to be thrown in for this game.

But yes lets sell Pogba, lets see him become one of the worlds best midfielders at Real Madrid and lets all try to hope we will get a good replacement that simply won't come.

And lets sell Sanchez aswell because he has been shit.

And while we are it lets never try to buy a big name player ever again for this club.

Motivation isn’t just down to the manager. Mourinho also isn’t responsible for Pogba passing the ball out of play or to an opposition player. Pogba is obviously talented and although I agree a manager massively influences a player’s motivation, it’s up to Pogba to at least get stuck in and play like it’s a fecking champions league knockout.

I wouldn’t be massively gutted if we sold Pogba like I would if we sold Dave, put it that way. He could go on to be class somewhere else but at the moment he’s just not working out at United. Maybe a new manager will change that.

 

[Red Star One]

I’m fecking fuming.

 

[JakeC]

It's getting to the stage where Mo is constantly disrespecting the stands, and that's just not good enough.

It was a pathetic tactical display, and ultimately the blame lies with the manager.

By no means would this make me if I was a board member lose my patience, but I would be making a note of the absolute lack of balls that were displayed.

OT was dead tonight, for a lot of different reasons, but it was dead.

Lukaku done the team proud today, he ran his fecking bollox off.

 

[Salus Populi Suprema Lex]

Just in from the match, and that was fecking unacceptable. Can someone tell me what is going on here? We're at home in the second leg, knowing that an away goal puts us right in the shit, yet once again we start at a snail's pace and stand off the opposition. At Old Trafford we should be on the front foot from kick off, pressing the opposition and not giving them a moment to think. The current tactics of inviting the opposition on and hoping to nick a goal on the break, aren't working, and that's down to Mourinho. He needs to have a serious think about the way he is setting up the team: there's no movement, no creativity, no urgency; and when you see the attacking options we have, that's inexcusable.

Sevilla aren't a top side. They're decent, but they shouldn't be able to live with this United team, which means something is going wrong. There's no atmosphere in the stadium because of the uninspiring style of play; it's terrible to watch. Given the money we've spent on some very good players, we need to be asking why we are playing so negatively. The patience of the fans is wearing than now, and Mourinho, intelligent guy he is, needs to recognise the problems and change his approach before it's too late.

Not good enough; nowhere near good enough. A massive opportunity wasted tonight, and it isn't even a shock; we all knew it would be the same old approach. We need another centre back and another central midfielder of top quality and, most of all, we need a change of tactics because we have the players to produce far better than this. Enough is enough with this ultra-cautious, negative mindset.

 

[The red panther]

Can anybody explain to me why Mourinho has such an enormous amount of credit?

Dispicable character, charisma of a dried up turd, anti-football coach and a coward who will never take any of the blame.

Sick of this shit every week. Counting the days till he's gone.

1: He has an amazing track record of victories and silverware with big teams like Porto, Chelsea, Inter and Real, so he is proven
2: People are scarred for sacking him as they don't know who else can fill his boots atm. It was easy to think of someone better than Moyes and LVG but it is harder to think of someone better than Mourinho. It would be our 4th manager in 5 seasons which really isn't very good in terms of stability. Alternative to sacking Mourinho might end up worse than keeping him. Deep down everyone knows what he has achieved is not enough and deep down everyone hates his football, but deep down everyone is also scarred of the alternative. It really is in a big fecking mess this club.

I knew we would have a downfall after Fergie but to see this club in such managerial shambles is just painfull and I'am not just talking about the coaching position but about our outdated managerial structure in general. Deep down I feel like this is the real problem and no coach is going to fix this. Maybay Mourinho might be the one best suited to work in these conditions, who knows.

 

[Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber]

we dont have a midfield. It has zero chemistry and Pogba inform is the only one with any creative imagination. Banega and Nzonzi schooled us both legs

 

[Hugh Jass]

I remember thinking after Celta Vigo last year in the seecond leg, it was a poor performance, even though we got through. If it were Pep or Klopp or Poch, with the same players they would have put four past them. I can understand the difficulty away from home, but like tonight, we should really be dominating at home. I said the same thing after the Palace match. One of the negatives of Mourinhos tactics is that we struggle against teams that other managers would destroy.

I still back the manager but it is going to be more of the same next year. When you win the tactics are justified, but when we play like tonight, it is disappointing.

 

[tony54]

Awful tactics, completely on Jose this one. No other way about it.

We've got some good players but I'm loath to say it, after praising Mourino last week, he is not doing a job at MU. We can't go on like this. I'm getting to the point where I'm not enjoying watching the game anymore. God only knows how frustrated match paying supporters must feel.
Please get rid of Pogba, he is not on this planet.

 

[Salus Populi Suprema Lex]

I remember thinking after Celta Vigo last year in the seecond leg, it was a poor performance, even though we got through. If it were Pep or Klopp or Poch, with the same players they would have put four past them. I can understand the difficulty away from home, but like tonight, we should really be dominating at home. I said the same thing after the Palace match. One of the negatives of Mourinhos tactics is that we struggle against teams that other managers would destroy.

I still back the manager but it is going to be more of the same next year. When you win the tactics are justified, but when we play like tonight, it is disappointing.

Agreed, and that's a problem. Fergie would have battered Sevilla with tonight's players. The approach is wrong.

 

[Full bodied red]

If you lose, you lose....

If you play shite, you play shite....

If you have the wrong tactics or Team Selection, you'll probably lose because they're the wrong tactics or Team Selection...

But I just can't understand how night's like tonight we can look and actually be so poor - as if we have 15 or 16 players who don't actually train together : as if we have no coherent plan other than pass the ball along the back four line ; continue to let Rashford take all the dead ball kicks, everytime, no matter how rubbish they usually are ; play players out of position so that we can play some who are so patently out-of-form they shouldn't even be subs for U23 matches ; go three years without a proper RW but have three players who all need to play LW to look decent.

Should we blame JM ?? Too defensive, scared to play all-out attacking football ??

Should we blame the players ?? Some of them just seem to be not good enough, others just not bothered ??

Should we blame our Scouts / Recruiting Team ?? Where were they when Sane, Eriksen, Azpilicueta, De Bruyne, Silva and Aguerro were being bought and sold ??

Should we blame the Board for pouring £ 000s millions into poor transfers ?? Di Maria, Depay, Mkhitaryan, Pogba and now, worryingly, it seems, Sanchez ??

OK....Rant over for tonight, serious head scratching starting tomorrow....

 

[NK86]

we dont have a midfield. It has zero chemistry and Pogba inform is the only one with any creative imagination. Banega and Nzonzi schooled us both legs

We didn't have a midfield today because only Matic wad playing there.

 

[Sarni]

Sad thing is people saying its better we went out cos we would have been hammered by one the big boys might not even have been true, Mou could have pulled off one of his tactical masterclasses against those teams. He just had to realise that tonight was not the night for one of those games. It would have been the easiest and most natural things to do just to let the same team from the weekend have a go from the start once again but he had to try and impose his special tactics on this game when it wasn't needed. And for that I'm gutted as I think he could have pulled it off next round against one of the big boys, just sad he didn't trust his players to go out there have a go and easily push past Seville tonight.

This is the thing. If we were playing Barcelona or Real Madrid, going all cautious might have made some degree of sense because it would be one of the most efficient solutions.

We were playing a mediocre Spanish side that got served up plenty of goals by several teams over the last few weeks and we actually tried to overcomplicate things for no reason whatsoever. Absolutely pointless.

 

[wolvored]

Its 50/50 blame really Mourinho for the cowardly tactics at home when we needed to score, and also the players who cost millions more and are paid millions more than the other side yet are outplayed by them. I hope we can win the FA cup as we need to show something for another costly spend. Why he didnt leave Rashford on the left and move the inneffectual Sanchez out to the right is anyones guess. Why bring back the tree and disrupt the midfield is another one to ponder. Mourinhos comments that tottenham are out as well is ridiculous. Please Woody dont give him another contract. get an attack minded manager/coach in next

 

[The red panther]

I remember thinking after Celta Vigo last year in the seecond leg, it was a poor performance, even though we got through. If it were Pep or Klopp or Poch, with the same players they would have put four past them. I can understand the difficulty away from home, but like tonight, we should really be dominating at home. I said the same thing after the Palace match. One of the negatives of Mourinhos tactics is that we struggle against teams that other managers would destroy.

I still back the manager but it is going to be more of the same next year. When you win the tactics are justified, but when we play like tonight, it is disappointing.

Oh yes the Celta Game. Man we struggled so hard in that one and we were so lucky to get through that. If we fecked that one up we wouldn't even be in this years CL...

Very compairable game in terms of Mourinho being a coward and clueless on how to kill teams. Difference is he got lucky in that one and not during tonights game.

 

[Jamie Shawcross]

I think the problem we have with Mourinho's tactics is that he doesn't set up to WIN, he simply sets up to NOT LOSE and sometimes we win, usually by a scrape. It is inexcusable with the team we have and the money we spend. I am happy with our squad, honestly. We should be tearing teams apart.
We are better than this. We deserve more and we are capable of more. Sick of this safe style of play, I can stomach it against top sides, especially away fixtures but not against rubbish. No team should come to united and be able to grow into a game like that and send us whimpering out. INEXCUSABLE

We would much prefer to lose, trying to win than lose by playing like a bunch of muppets who seem scared to touch the ball

 

[Jamie Shawcross]

This tonight is much worse than the 1-6, because even then we showed pure heart and kept going. Dark dark day

 

[edgar allan]

Its 50/50 blame really Mourinho for the cowardly tactics at home when we needed to score, and also the players who cost millions more and are paid millions more than the other side yet are outplayed by them. I hope we can win the FA cup as we need to show something for another costly spend. Why he didnt leave Rashford on the left and move the inneffectual Sanchez out to the right is anyones guess. Why bring back the tree and disrupt the midfield is another one to ponder. Mourinhos comments that tottenham are out as well is ridiculous. Please Woody dont give him another contract. get an attack minded manager/coach in next

Too late he has already signed his extension.

 

[Andy Hill]

Agree with the earlier post about the whole approach to the game. On Saturday we came out and gave it 100%. Tonight we looked like we thought we could breeze past the opposition. Crowd was subdued from the start which didn’t help.

 

[wolvored]

Too late he has already signed his extension.

Yes till 2020 dont give him another one

 

[Jamie Shawcross]

I dont want us to be HARD TO BEAT anymore, I want us to be HARD TO STOP. I don't want to watch teams struggle to break us down, I want to see teams struggle at the back from our onslaught. WE HAVE THE PLAYERS! I seriously wouldn't change a thing in our attacking line up, they're just clearly being misdirected. To me it seems obvious

 

[Stacks]

I'm sooo frustrated. Just off the back of beating Liverpool who are better than Seville, and also Chelsea....... We are unpredictably predictable. Pretty predictable how we'll play (its not very positive), Unpredictable with results. when we win, often we feel we "got away with something", when we lose we look like we put in no effort and lose bad. I am starting to feel we may as well just have a go in each game. This unadventurous, cagey, tactical stuff is very Rafa esque.

 

[Hugh Jass]

I think the problem we have with Mourinho's tactics is that he doesn't set up to WIN, he simply sets up to NOT LOSE and sometimes we win, usually by a scrape. It is inexcusable with the team we have and the money we spend. I am happy with our squad, honestly. We should be tearing teams apart.
We are better than this. We deserve more and we are capable of more. Sick of this safe style of play, I can stomach it against top sides, especially away fixtures but not against rubbish. No team should come to united and be able to grow into a game like that and send us whimpering out. INEXCUSABLE

We would much prefer to lose, trying to win than lose by playing like a bunch of muppets who seem scared to touch the ball

This 100%. Now it works. He has won wherever he has gone after Porto. But on nights like tonight it goes wrong.

I agree. With the players we have, we should be doing better, as in dominating the poorer teams.

 

[Paul778]

Over the last few months I, like many on here, have got increasingly frustrated about our team and how we lack threat and attacking intent. How we have so many forward players who are incomplete or inconsistent and cannot be relied upon. How so many players are just anonymous in the team. How there is no off the ball running, no helping your team mates.

I find so hard to understand how so many players look like shadows of players.

However, you look at the result against Palace last week and you look at our team when they were 2-0 down tonight and you could see a team that will run for each other and work for each other, and a team that can attack with pace and force. On another night we might have clawed it back with the Smalling and Lukaku chances.

So I am defending the team and attacking the manager. After 10 minutes tonight when we all saw us happily passing the ball around the back four we all knew what was going to happen tonight. We are United and it's not acceptable to be spending 160 minutes of play against Sevilla playing defensively and hoping to nick the odd goal - hell I wouldn't be happy with that approach against Barcelona even.

I don't know what to think now. Why would the top players want to come here if that is the sort of football we will be playing? I bet Sanchez is regretting his move now. Sigh

 

[Jamie Shawcross]

Give it to De Boer until the end of the season

 

[Full bodied red]

Over the last few months I, like many on here, have got increasingly frustrated about our team and how we lack threat and attacking intent. How we have so many forward players who are incomplete or inconsistent and cannot be relied upon. How so many players are just anonymous in the team. How there is no off the ball running, no helping your team mates.

I find so hard to understand how so many players look like shadows of players.

However, you look at the result against Palace last week and you look at our team when they were 2-0 down tonight and you could see a team that will run for each other and work for each other, and a team that can attack with pace and force. On another night we might have clawed it back with the Smalling and Lukaku chances.

So I am defending the team and attacking the manager. After 10 minutes tonight when we all saw us happily passing the ball around the back four we all knew what was going to happen tonight. We are United and it's not acceptable to be spending 160 minutes of play against Sevilla playing defensively and hoping to nick the odd goal - hell I wouldn't be happy with that approach against Barcelona even.

I don't know what to think now. Why would the top players want to come here if that is the sort of football we will be playing? I bet Sanchez is regretting his move now. Sigh

You think he regrets £ 600, 000 per week for the next four years ??

 

[stuski]

Cannot get over his quote about we should be used to losing. Too far.

 

[edgar allan]

Agree with the earlier post about the whole approach to the game. On Saturday we came out and gave it 100%. Tonight we looked like we thought we could breeze past the opposition. Crowd was subdued from the start which didn’t help.

An attacking start, some passion, some challenges and the crowd would have been up for it too.
We set up like a small club looking for penalties.

 

[JG3001]

This season, I’ve kept seeing teams literally jog across our midfield without being troubled nearly every single game. In first half today, I noticed that Sevilla had to actually work their way through the midfield and felt little threat from them when they got into the final third. And in addition to what you say about Fellaini, I know fir sure I’ve seen him multiple times getting back near the defense, intercepting balls, winning challenges, and being a passing option when others were being pressed. I’m sure he roams around too in order to be an offensive threat, but I hardly felt we were under threat when he did. With Pogba on, I noticed our midfield was back to being wide open.

I’m sure you can pick out plenty of games this season, but in recent memory the Newcastle and Crystal Palace games were huge red flags about the state of our midfield setup.

Relegation threatened teams made to look world class in that area, down to a lack of pressing and complete shambolic passing.

Pogba has been dire for the last couple months worth of playing time he has had, but it’s no secret to the caf who id rather see leave first out of him and Jose.

 

[tony54]

I honestly put this one down to Mourinho alone. I’m not usually one to take responsibility away from the players, but i think today they were undermned by an overly defensive tactic by Mourinho.

Of course some of th3 players had shit performances (Alexis 1 half, Pogba, Fellaini i’m looking at you), but i feel that would have been different with a different approach/mentality.

Anyways, what worries me the most is that it looks like Pogba is all out of fu**s to give. Appalling attitude it seems. It is ok to be out of form, but it is not ok to not make the effort.

You are correct in us being overly defensive, when they were attacking they had numbers in the box, when we attacked we'd be lucky to have 2 players in the box.

 

[Globule]

That waswoeful.

Not much more needs to be said.