Martial has got to remain at United | No, he hasn't been unfollowing United players on Instagram

The only time we looked half threatening was after he came on. Our only player that can actually go past a man.
 
cyberman said:
José will get the blame but his second half tactics has given our attackers ample opportunity to break Chelsea down.
Nobody supplies our strikers. Not Martial, Rashford or Lingard.
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To be fair, Lingard created our best chance with the through ball to Rashford.

Martial isn't worth the hassle. I don't care if he succeeds elsewhere, he's not going to do it here and has shown no desire to do so. Sell him if the right offer comes in.
 
So dissapoited yet again by our talented forward. It would be best for all parties if he left for a new challenge
 
Martial is our only attacking player that actually looks like he's always gonna beat his man when he has the ball.

We'd be absolutely nuts to sell him.
 
If he had a brain he would be dangerous!.

I've said it for awhile he doesn't have the football intelligence, you can get away with one braindead player but to have Rashford, Jones, Lingard, Smalling, Valencia to name a few is a recipe for failiure.
 
bosnian_red said:
Hope he leaves and proves Mourinho wrong. Really has gotten to that point for me.
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Ronaldo's ego said:
Goodbye Tony M, it will be sad to see you become a world class player for another team...
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Don't say that. Otherwise some geniuses will label you as Martial FC.

Nate Dogg said:
If he had a brain he would be dangerous!.

I've said it for awhile he doesn't have the football intelligence, you can get away with one braindead player but to have Rashford, Jones, Lingard, Smalling, Valencia to name a few is a recipe for failiure.
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This is nonsense. It is a valid argument for some players like Valencia, Smalling, Lingard etc. but definitely not for Martial. If anything he is one of the rare intelligent players we've got along with Mata, Sanchez etc.
 
MrMourinho#7 said:
Don't say that. Otherwise some geniuses will label you as Martial FC.



This is nonsense. It is a valid argument for some players like Valencia, Smalling, Lingard etc. but definitely not for Martial. If anything he is one of the rare intelligent players we've got along with Mata, Sanchez etc.
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Get a grip...Martial and intelligence do not go together!
 
Why would he stay when he's consistently consigned to the bench?

He should have started against those Chelsea full backs
 
Hard being an attacking player in a team that goes out not to lose than win.....
 
If Mourinho sells him or tries at least he should get the sack. Feck him, today Martial showed he shouldn't be on the bench while brainless wankers like Rashford and Sanchez start, so I'd rather Jose feck off than lose this guy.
 
MP1711 said:
Because Jose expects his players to think on there feet and LVG is a lot more automated.
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Or because LVG trusted and gave Martial confidence, also maybe because Jose hasn't been able to get much out of most of our attacking players.
 
Kostov said:
If Mourinho sells him or tries at least he should get the sack. Feck him, today Martial showed he shouldn't be on the bench while brainless wankers like Rashford and Sanchez start, so I'd rather Jose feck off than lose this guy.
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Did he? I didn't see anything special from him in all honesty.
 
Cassidy said:
Or because LVG trusted and gave Martial confidence, also maybe because Jose hasn't been able to get much out of most of our attacking players.
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Mourinho has scored more goals than LVG and we have created far more. If what we saw today and against Brighton is what he sees in training, I can see why he doesn't start because clearly he has a serious lack of football intelligence and a piss poor attitude.
 
Parry Gallister said:
Did he? I didn't see anything special from him in all honesty.
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The only player that made Chelsea to take a step back and held the ball with some confidence while attacking and we looked better when he came on. Rashford and Sanchez were pathetic so my standards might be low to be honest.
 
VorZakone said:
How can Van Gaal make good use of Martial and Mourinho not?
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LVG used him the same way he did with Rashford. He sets them up to run onto the ball and hit opponents on the counter. Jose seems to favour a passing game with a slow build up, waiting for opponent to make mistakes. Unfortunately Martial/Rashers usually ends up making the first mistake.
 
MP1711 said:
Mourinho has scored more goals than LVG and we have created far more. If what we saw today and against Brighton is what he sees in training, I can see why he doesn't start because clearly he has a serious lack of football intelligence and a piss poor attitude.
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Name me an attacking player that is currently flourishing under mourinho’s management and you may have a point.
We score more goals this season yes well we spent fecking shit loads on Pogba who has 16 assists and 6 goals, we also spent shit loads on a striker who has 27?
So better quality players means more goals, yes it can still be said, no attacking players is excelling under his management.
 
jojojo said:
Yet we didn't make top 4.
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We also didn't under Jose last season, we came 6th, that is after spending shit loads on the 4 specialists Pogba, Bailly Mhiki and Ibra
 
Was on for 20 minutes and despite us looking a lot better in that time he was on and showing more directness, people will probably just mention the one (really bad tbf) cross/chip thing.

Anyway, thought he did more in 20 mins then Rashford, lingard or Sanchez did all game. Also did more then Lukaku did in those 20 minutes. Doesnt take a genius to say he shouldve started over rashford and should never have been moved around after his January form, but there you go. Mourinho is what he is and Martial will probably leave this summer. Best of luck to him, I hope he tears it up wherever he goes and shows Mourinho how much of a mistake hes making.
 
I don't think he changed the game as people are saying, but he only had about twenty minutes. He should have started over Rashford, who seemingly doesn't have it in him to play upfront at united.
 
I'm at a crossroads with Martial. Make way with him if it brings in a player that can solve the right-wing problem, or retain regardless of who they sign. Maybe he'll come good eventually or maybe he's just not the right player for this club/setup.

I wouldn't mind retaining Martial for another season and perhaps see Rashford make a loan move for a year. But what position will get the best out of Martial all factors (tactics, incoming/outgoing personnel, position) considered?
 
Leftback99 said:
The only time we looked half threatening was after he came on. Our only player that can actually go past a man.
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Thats the problem .
Martial doesnt effect games much and if he is the best we have then what is that telling you.

Rashford isn't good enough neither is Lingaard. LUKAKU is a CF.
 
I like Martial but can't get my head around that sliced cross that went out for a goal kick with three minutes left. Gif worthy...
 
Said it before, if we were playing free flowing attacking football and Martial was not up to it then fine but I really struggle on assessing attacking players in our team when the majority of our games we set up not to lose, with the attacking players having to work hard to support that principle yet the only time it's the opposite, is when we are losing....
 
Kostov said:
The only player that made Chelsea to take a step back and held the ball with some confidence while attacking and we looked better when he came on. Rashford and Sanchez were pathetic so my standards might be low to be honest.
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That's fair, can't say he did any worse than those two today.
 
Didn’t changed the game, but offered threat that we’d been lacking obviously. All he did was run at players, which shouldn’t be such a spectacular thing for us to see though, that’s it. his delivery and finishing was poor, people are just excited to see someone run at defenders. I get it though, no reason why our players shouldn’t do it more.
 
Unbelievable that out of all our attackers this lad is going to be gone in the summer. All he needs is a proper chance, a proper run of starts and he’s our best attacking player in the squad.
 
VorZakone said:
How can Van Gaal make good use of Martial and Mourinho not?
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The better question is name one player that both LvG and Mourinho had that is playing better under Jose? Martial, Rashford and Mata got worse and the rest kept their level.
 
Cassidy said:
We also didn't under Jose last season, we came 6th, that is after spending shit loads on the 4 specialists Pogba, Bailly Mhiki and Ibra
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The only point of making top 4 is to qualify for the Champions League, which we did last season, so 6th is kind of irrelevant in that context. Still an unacceptable league position.
 
I saw nothing to make me want to keep him. He came on and just ran at people... without looking up or around him, and making no off the ball runs or movement. He has limited spatial awareness and football brain and will never fit in a Jose team.

Same old same old. I’m baffled as to how such a one dimensional one trick pony has such a following round here.
 
MrMourinho#7 said:
This is nonsense. It is a valid argument for some players like Valencia, Smalling, Lingard etc. but definitely not for Martial. If anything he is one of the rare intelligent players we've got along with Mata, Sanchez etc.
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I don’t know where you get this. He looks clever when a defender is high up with space in behind. He is brilliant using that situation. When the defense is set and deep, he quickly runs out of ideas when wide. He’s good at one twos and interplay more centrally, but he doesn’t look too versatile or clever otherwise.

He’s a young player and that’s all okay. Ronaldo had similar problems early on at United. Martial will probably grow into a more complete attacker and may show more intelligence.

Until then, putting him on the level of Mata and Sanchez, two seasoned players known for their intelligence, doesn’t really hold up to what we all see.
 
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