That's kind of irrelevant though; all a player can do is shine in their own era, against the competition put in front of them. This is why comparing players of different era is absolutely pointless but that won't stop anyone.
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That's kind of irrelevant though; all a player can do is shine in their own era, against the competition put in front of them. This is why comparing players of different era is absolutely pointless but that won't stop anyone.
I'm not convinced by him, he may be doing a good job but I would like to see him in another club
Same here. Would want him to try and go to a team like Arsenal to prove his worth.3 CL back to back, but for some reason I still don't think he is a great manager.
No need for that. If he can do well at clubs like Juve, PSG, United, City -- clubs which are fairly capable of challenging Bayern, Barca and Real if managed properly -- then he will have proven himself.
I rather think he will be successful outside of Real as well. He seems savvy.
Guardiola the better manager? For winning 2 UCL (not in a row) with the best Barcelona squad ever?
They had Messi in his prime, the Spanish Golden Generation which won 1 WC and 2 Euros without Messi, prime Dani Alves, Henry, Etoo....
Still that 2 UCL they won had the Stanford Bridge Scandal, Arsenal's Scandal and Bernabeu's scandal.
Then he went to Bayern Munich, a team that had just won the 6 titles they played their last season, and managed to lose 5-0 by Real Madrid in UCL. He didn't even get to a UCL final in all his time there, and only managed to win Bundesligas, that is inevitable when you manage Bayern Munich.
Then he went to City, that had already the best squad in the PL and spend more than 600M in 2 seasons, only for winning 1 PL in 2 years.
And Zidane got to a Madrid side that was 10 points below Barca in La Liga. In half a season he managed to end only 1 point behind Barca in La Liga, and won the UCL, Supercups and CWC.
The next year and his first complete season in Madrid, he managed to won 5 of the 6 tournaments he played, including back to back UCL and La Liga.
And in his 2nd complete season he won 3 UCL IN A ROW! And will very probablly win the Supercups and CWC...
Come on...
Come on! As a player, for me Zidane was better but it can go either way, both are Top 5 in history.
But to say that Cruyff is not comparable to Zidane as a manager is ridiculous.
He managed Barcelona for 8 seasons, having the team known in that time as Barcelona's Dream team. He had in his teams players like Maradona, Romario, Laidrup, Stoichkov, Guardiola, etc...
In Ajax as you stated he had Van Basten, Bergkamp, Rikjaard, etc...
Still he only managed to win 1 UCL in all his career as a manager. Zidane has already won 3!
Please, be serious...
Totally agree with you.
Zidane overrated??! If he had won the WC in 2006 he would be up there with Pele. His headbutt made some ignorants like you don't even rank him in the top 5...
Then you can watch 1998 WC and see real GOAT performances where actually he won the tournament.
When looking at the 1974 WC, I also see a GOAT, and it was Beckenbauer.
In fact Cruyff isn't even the best player of his era, Beckenbauer was...
Still Beckenbauer played in a poor football era where Beckenbauer was the only player that is among the best in history.
His other rivals were Cubillas, Muller, Rivellino, Figueroa, Tostao, Jairzinho, Pasarella.
Zidane was in the era of Maldini, Ronaldo, Rivaldo, Ronaldinho, Kaka, Figo, Cantona, Pirlo, Henry, Cannavaro, Nesta, Cafu, Roberto Carlos, Nedved, Vidic, Ferdinand, Terry, Gerard, Lampard, Xavi, Iniesta, Beckham, and the list can go on and on. He played in a golden era of football.
And yes, he also played vs Messi and CR7!
I mean, he's obviously pretty good. I'd like to see what he'd be like building his own team though.
And I’m willing to bet you’re very, very wrong.
Weirdly enough I think winning the league will be more important next season than the CL.
Imagine if Zidane wins it again next year.
I actually agree with him and I'm Dutch so I should be especially biased.
Meh, I won 5 Champions League trophies in a row with Nottingham Forest in Football Manager.
Until Zidane can do that, I’m not too impressed.
Until Zidane can do that, I’m not too impressed.
I was replying to his incorrect presumption that I haven’t watched the 1974 WC. The rest of his post wasn’t worth replying to.
Cruyff the player had his 74 WC performance when he was at his peak. He was never able to replicate that kind performance and the Dutch actually reached another final in 78 without his being present in the team.
Zidane the player on the other hand has an arguably better NT resume than Cruyff while actually being unable to perform in the World Cup tournament which featured during his prime i.e. the 2002 World Cup, just before the start of which Zidane got injured. It is entirely possible that Zidane would have had is most dominant NT performance in that tournament, if not for the injury, considering that that is what most other great players till that point in time had done i.e. have their most dominant performance (statistically as well as team impact wise) in the one international tournament during their peak. Examples of these being -
Garrincha - WC 62 (also played in WC 58, WC 66)
Charlton - WC 66 (also played in WC 62, WC 70)
Jairzinho - WC 70 (also played in WC 74)
Cruyff - WC 74 (also played in Euro 76, although the tournament itself only consisted of Semi Final and Final stages)
Kempes - WC 78 (also played in WC 74, WC 82 and CA 75)
Platini - Euro 84 (also played in WC 78, WC 82 and WC 86)
Zico - WC 82 (also played in WC 78, WC 86 and CA 79)
Maradona - WC 86 (also played in WC 82, WC 90, CA 87 and CA 89)
Van Basten - Euro 88 (also played in WC 90)
Baggio - WC 94 (also played in WC 90, WC 98)
Also, considering that Zidane had 2 goals and an assist in the CL Final and Semifinal stages that year with Real Madrid, he was definitely not lacking in terms of big game or tournament form.
The first page of comments on this thread are hilarious.
Zidane resigns
Word on the street is that he might leave today.
There is press conference coming up shortly. Might be going.
And... he's gone, probably. Thus ends our attempts to sign Bale and we have to settle for Willian. 
Edit: Bookies seem convinced -
1.33 Not to be Madrid Manager next season
3.25 to still be Madrid manager next season
They are rarely wrong.
Edit: Bookies seem convinced -
1.33 Not to be Madrid Manager next season
3.25 to still be Madrid manager next season
They are rarely wrong.
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Why on earth? Bowing out at the top??
Oh whats going on here then? I bet Madrid go for Sarri now. Bale will stay now regardless.
Probably. I feel like they're on the verge of a rebuild and maybe Zidane doesn't want to oversee that.
If he leaves it's probably the best moment to do so, a very, very smart move. Wondering if he could take over French NT?
Absolutely. They definitely need a rebuild - pretty much the same team that won the CL in 2014, isn’t it?
I don't know anything about the press conference but Zidane never planned to manage, his plan was to be a football executive, he studied for that up until his first season of coaching that's why he didn't had his badges. So it wouldn't be surprising if he decided to go back upstairs.
Deschamps extended his contract. It is either to guarantee him a safety bonus if the WC is a disaster but I don't think so.
Zidane for the national team isn't for anytime soon
Zidane for the national team isn't for anytime soon
Yep. Bale stays if Zidane goes. Ah well, at least we won't have a drawn out saga.
Press conference scheduled for later today...surely he's gone.
If he does go, I reckon their youth team coach Guti will get the job. Maybe they'll consider Conte, I don't know.
Cadena Ser reporting that Zidane has resigned.
Maybe we can swap managers?
The FFF has always wanted Zidane, it's barely a secret and he is the only name that could put Deschamps out of job.
#WengerIn
Makes sense that he resigns today. Nothing left to prove at Madrid and he only stands to lose if he stays there any longer. Next season would only see him sacked after not winning anything anyway.
he has resigned
I would love it
According to marca he will resign
makes sense. After three CL titles in a row, how are you going to top that? Especially with a bit of a rebuild necessary in the coming years.
Will be pretty interesting to see who comes in!
3 in row was too easy, he needs a better challenge...
Wenger in
Wenger in