Peterson, Harris, etc....
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No wonder Paglia likes him.
Because Mourinho left United supporters no other choice but to 'support' politics instead.
I'm kidding I like Mourino But yeah it's a bizarre concept.
In Peterson's case he's pretty up front about the fact most of his audience is young men who need to grow the fcuk up.
He of course fails to admit that a good start in doing so would be to stop watching his videos and stop taking life so fcuking seriously (as he seems to do).
The weirdest and creepiest stuff I've seen is the tweets from deeply religious/conservative young girls gushing over Ben Shapiro after they've met him or the types who talk about how they spent their friday night watching his videos. I mean each to their own and all that but I find it really weird.
he became famous by not understanding a law so yeag kinda
His opening gambit into public life was having a go at a law that stops discrimination against trans people. Notably criticising it for something it didn't do.
In all seriousness, if he wasn't on a stage giving a 'lecture' and you seen him in public somewhere talking like that, you'd assume he was a homeless person who had lost their marbles (or had a drink/drug problem).
He actually believes the opposite. He believes that one should take control of life by grounding oneself in responsibility (family, career, etc). Without responsibility people lack purpose and lose their way in life.
Oh wait, hang on, it's just fallen into place, is it this cockheads fault I've had to argue with people about whether Canada has made it illegal to call people by the wrong gender pronouns?
yeah
Peterson is astrology for white dudes.
The consistent strand I've noticed is that there is a palpable concern in hard left circles (what he would call the identity politics crowd) that he has come out of nowhere and become a YouTube celebrity who has now crossed into the contemporary TV world, which is in turn challenging the existing orthodoxy of how we regard many of the issues he talks about. Therefore the ideas he espouses are getting a mainstream platform where people who may not ordinarily be avid YouTube viewers wind up buying his books and watching his interviews on national television in multiple continents. This has in turn spawned quite a few Twitter troll accounts dedicated to cherrypicking un-contextualized random quotes he has made in various longer videos, as evidence that he is some sort of thinly veiled alt-right advocate and all things inclusive of being branded as such. Bar one of two write ups I've read I don't get the impression that many of his critics have read his books in their entirely or watched his videos in full length to get a better context of his work. Opinions are instead being formed by short soundbites lifted out of longer videos, which imo does little to help matters.
That's merely an opinion, and entirely depends on one's definition of a successful life.
I fully agree. I was just contending the notion that Peterson would ever admit to stop taking life so seriously. He would probably not say something like that because he thinks meaning in life comes from responsibility and that involves taking life more seriously, not less so.
@Raoul that is my impression also.
I've not read his books although I have subjected myself to a few of his excruciating lectures and debates in full before formulating my opinion of him. I don't think that makes my view any less relevant though I didn't need to read Mein Kampf or attend the Nuremberg rally to know that notions such as racial purity or eugenics have no place in decent society. As for people cherry picking his comments to make him look bad, for someone supposedly so intelligent and articulate surely there shouldn't be too many examples like the one above yet they keep cropping up.
Good effin' grief.
Unfortunately this is the world we live in. Instead of debating the merits of ideas within their intended context, we are more inclined to smear the messengers by way of cherry picked memes and truncated videos which aren't particularly helpful in having a sensible debate.
I'm sure there's a wider context that is not being represented
I've always supported freedom of speech but there's little sensible debate to be had with quotes like the above.
Behold, the Jimmy Cannon of the intelligentsia.
'Nobody asked me but...'
'Nobody asked me but...'
I'm sure there's a wider context that is not being represented
I've always supported freedom of speech but there's little sensible debate to be had with quotes like the above.
He loses me at times, but in general I find it more satisfying to watch one of his talks in its entirety than being led to form an opinion on the back of a random quote that is deliberately cherry picked to mislead.
so that you would see it
Put it all in one post so people who want to actually discuss things dont get lost in a sea of tweets.
a real brain genius herei wont post any more of his tweets but posting them is discussing them
F*ck am I walking 'round like Anastasia Romanov...