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Do you think there will be a Deal or No Deal?

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do.ob said:
So May urged the EU to enter serious discussions (about a proposal that to me looks like it will be dismissed within seconds) hours before their British counterpart resigned. Am I understanding this correctly?
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The EU got a draft long before the Chequers meeting and already have dismissed it unofficially. They will take the time to receive the full details, and make the necessary comments where it will not be acceptable in a polite way and say something on the lines of "we are glad the UK have made some clarification" and everyone's back to square one where they were 2 years ago.

This will probably carry on in the same way until either the UK just slip out the back door when time runs out and everything grinds to a halt or in a last minute panic actually come to their senses and beg to stay.
 
Carolina Red said:
:lol: I know right
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Confucius once said: "Once a cnut always a cnut"
 
All this stuff about a government in chaos. Least you lot have a (somewhat) functioning government. :lol:
 
Minimalist said:
All this stuff about a government in chaos. Least you lot have a (somewhat) functioning government. :lol:
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Where are you from?
I don't think this government is functioning. The entire country is consumed by brexit.
 
Adisa said:
Mason's tune has changed.
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The narrative really bothers me, they keep using the term Norway-Style aka EFTA but when if you add a custom union agreement you are far from EFTA, they are still taking people for idiots. Then you have Merkel replaced by Macron, France aren't different to Germany neither can impose their view and in that case it's not even a french view, it's an opinion shared across the EU. Also the facts haven't changed, you are just still trying to make up your made with the exact same facts in your hands.
 
JPRouve said:
The narrative really bothers me, they keep using the term Norway-Style aka EFTA but when if you add a custom union agreement you are far from EFTA, they are still taking people for idiots. Then you have Merkel replaced by Macron, France aren't different to Germany neither can impose their view and in that case it's not even a french view, it's an opinion shared across the EU. Also the facts haven't changed, you are just still trying to make up your made with the exact same facts in your hands.
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You really believe that? I rarely hear other european leaders voicing their opinion like these two twats. Lets not forget how Germany continue to ignore rules of the eu with no protest from anyone else.
 
Stanley Road said:
You really believe that? I rarely hear other european leaders voicing their opinion like these two twats. Lets not forget how Germany continue to ignore rules of the eu with no protest from anyone else.
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The guy has a big mouth but he has no particular power.
 
Not sure if we have any open brexiteers still posting in here? I do wonder who the feck they support at the moment, are they wanting rid of May or are they just supporting the government irrespective
 
Smores said:
Not sure if we have any open brexiteers still posting in here? I do wonder who the feck they support at the moment, are they wanting rid of May or are they just supporting the government irrespective
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I rarely actually see Brexiteers posting anywhere online bar comment sections of articles etc.
 
Smores said:
Not sure if we have any open brexiteers still posting in here? I do wonder who the feck they support at the moment, are they wanting rid of May or are they just supporting the government irrespective
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Stanley is around but he hates Tories and the government. If I'm not mistaken.
 
711 said:
Gove has nailed his colours to May's mast so there'll be nothing new from him, the pressure is firmly on Boris now.
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Boris has been around long enough to remember the old adage about ‘he who wields the knife, never wears the crown’. I’d be deeply shocked if he led the rebellion when instead he could sit back and let Mogg or Gove do it.
 
Kentonio said:
Boris has been around long enough to remember the old adage about ‘he who wields the knife, never wears the crown’. I’d be deeply shocked if he led the rebellion when instead he could sit back and let Mogg or Gove do it.
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I know his reasoning, but for me it confirms him as a coward, not a leader.
 
Smores said:
Not sure if we have any open brexiteers still posting in here? I do wonder who the feck they support at the moment, are they wanting rid of May or are they just supporting the government irrespective
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Any actual Brexiteers who post notably now rarely talk about Brexit itself but instead just say how arrogant Remainers are etc. Very little to defend anymore so they deflect for the most part instead.
 
Smores said:
Not sure if we have any open brexiteers still posting in here? I do wonder who the feck they support at the moment, are they wanting rid of May or are they just supporting the government irrespective
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Haven't you heard? Rees Mogg is the new Churchill.
 
unchanged_lineup said:
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Is this real? :lol: Good to see Davis appreciating the seriousness with which he is fecking the entire country. EDIT: It isn't

May, Corbyn, Johnson, Gove, Ihni binni dimi diniwiny anitaime; it's a game to all of them. I don't think any of them care what happens to people's lives, as long as they get to the top. Charlatans one and all.
 
Jippy said:
It was always way stronger in the UK though tbf. Even at the height of Greece's financial problems it's people didn't want to leave.
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Neither did we before the referendum was called.
 
Jippy said:
It was always way stronger in the UK though tbf. Even at the height of Greece's financial problems it's people didn't want to leave.
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Well the consequences of leaving the eurozone were far worse than anything else, also for the whole block.
 
Jippy said:
I dunno, we've always had a significant Euro sceptic contingent.

Yep, reverting back to the drachma would have been ruinous.
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I went to greece just after the euro was introduced, the locals could not stop complaining about it.
 
Jippy said:
I dunno, we've always had a significant Euro sceptic contingent.
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They were pretty shy about it with pollsters if it was anywhere near 52% though.

Not sure I'd trust any country not to lose their heads and vote leave if they had a referendum.
 
Yet 'leave regardless' remains the official policy of both government and "opposition"
 
Jippy said:
I dunno, we've always had a significant Euro sceptic contingent.

Yep, reverting back to the drachma would have been ruinous.
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I posted it a year ago to Nick, but I don't think it's actually true. Before 2010 Europe was considered so low down on the list of Brits issues that YouGov didn't poll for it, there was a lot of noise from a vocal minority, and UKIP did well in local EU elections (but voter turnout was low and arguably UKIP voters the most motivated in them) but they weren't making much headway. Then after 2010 the Conservatives made it an issue, and we got here.
 
Stanley Road said:
I went to greece just after the euro was introduced, the locals could not stop complaining about it.
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I went to Athens 2-3 years ago and the somewhat unhinged cab driver was ranting about the Troika -was a long journey from the airport and when she asked us what we do and my wife said she works in finance, he seemed ready to explode, moaning finance people are 'legalised crooks'.

DiseaseOfTheAge said:
They were pretty shy about it with pollsters if it was anywhere near 52% though.

Not sure I'd trust any country not to lose their heads and vote leave if they had a referendum.
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Maybe it was like the shy Tory phenomena or they just polled the wrong areas.
 
DiseaseOfTheAge said:
I am reasonably sure we'd vote Leave if there's another vote. I don't think Remain would turn out.
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I honestly don’t believe that. I think there’s a lot of people who were on the fence that didn’t understand the consequences of the vote who chose to vote either way or stay at home. I think a lot of those people are now aware of the consequences and as such would turn out to vote remain to put this ridiculous situation to bed.
 
NinjaFletch said:
I posted it a year ago to Nick, but I don't think it's actually true. Before 2010 Europe was considered so low down on the list of Brits issues that YouGov didn't poll for it, there was a lot of noise from a vocal minority, and UKIP did well in local EU elections (but voter turnout was low and arguably UKIP voters the most motivated in them) but they weren't making much headway. Then after 2010 the Conservatives made it an issue, and we got here.
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Yeah obviously the UKIP threat was massively overestimated. I do remember the moaning around Maastricht and periodic complaints about the 'United States of Europe', but agree it wasn't a movement as such before UKIP.
 
If there was another referendum it would be another absolute knife-edge result going either way.

Unless there were more options on the ballot of course. That might clear things up but the chances of that is even less than another in/out referendum.
 
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