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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) is joined by CEO Duncan Drasdo and Financial Director Andy Green from the Manchester United Supporters Trust for a special episode on all things behind the scenes at Old Trafford including a brief history of MUST and their aims today, views on INEOS and Sir Jim Ratcliffe so far, and the Old Trafford regeneration.
This week makes her ratings go up in house, just watch
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Alastair Campbell did a cracking interview on Channel 4 News earlier. Took shots, among other things, at the Labour party because no front bencher would even appear on the the show so they had to get him!
You're not that shallow you cnutYou’re next
Nah probably not, you’re like a part of the furnitureYou're not that shallow you cnut
Til that day when we start up cycling the old stuff
I try and stay within the rules, just
That and you have your moments, not always a grumpy old fart.
Sounds like me
I actually think that you are on the right side most of the time at the exception of brexit and assaulting elder germans.
Yesterday night, she was heading for the knife. Her antics today buy her time.
You seriously think millions of jobs will be lost? Get a grip!
If I'm wrong then I'll eat my hat.
Corbyn's as entitled to his holidays as much as anyone else, especially while there's nothing important going on.
Pexit...and a hard one at that.
The German guy got lucky, he is a repugnant man that would fit in well back im the day.I actually think that you are on the right side most of the time at the exception of brexit and assaulting elder germans.
Brexit, the only thing that bothers me is the hysteria and the definate scenarios of which experts(lol)and cafites have no historical data to back up their views.
Other than that i dont really give a shit.
Anything else to say chief?
That says 2.8M fewer jobs, not jobs lost. This can be read in two different ways. People losing their jobs and/or less jobs being created. If you're talking about both scenarios combined then it's probably a bit more sensible, but over what timescale are they predicting this will occur?
Almost happened a few times but I’m still here. Should give some hope.
Yes, what does that all equate to for the remaining countries?
Anything else to say chief?
I'm going to be all logical and suggest more jobs for them as companies leave the UK.
Come on over to Ireland, folks.
Odd that they didn't air the interview they had with Labour's Brexit Secretary earlier in the day.
Is Corbyn in charge of their production team as well?
Go on over to eastern europe folks.....oh wait, thats already happening since years ago.
English-speaking country which will still be within the Eurozone.
https://www.siliconrepublic.com/companies/brexit-ireland-relocation
https://www.theguardian.com/busines...t-choice-london-banks-brexit-relocation-plans
https://www.irishexaminer.com/break...ays-begins-dublin-jobs-relocation-852618.html
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...e-dublin-ireland-relocations-eu-a8335841.html
https://www.irishtimes.com/business...-financial-services-jobs-in-ireland-1.3519952
http://www.thejournal.ie/goldman-sachs-dublin-office-brexit-3771451-Dec2017/
Frankfurt and Paris will benefit massively from financial services flight also. And yes, exactly, they are moving to other Eastern European countries too. Jaguar Landrover to Slovakia, for example. So yeah, that also tallies with my original logical assertion.
So, to be as clear as possible, you asked what it'll mean for the other Eurozone countries, I've said "UK jobs moving to them" and you've agreed.
Is this the one that's after 15 years? I voted remain because I thought the economic damage of leaving would outweigh any other factors, but this doesn't seem a worst-case scenario at all really. It's how we would deal with reduced tax revenue in the first years that worries me.
Anything else to say chief?
Theresa May demands respect from EU over Brexit as pound falls
https://www.theguardian.com/politic...pect-from-eu-in-brexit-negotiations?CMP=fb_gu
https://www.theguardian.com/politic...pect-from-eu-in-brexit-negotiations?CMP=fb_gu
Brexit really is going to screw the island of Ireland.
cheers Brexit voters.
cheers Brexit voters.
I know almost nothing of this but realistically how far away are we from a second referendum or scrapping the whole thing? I know a lot of people that it would piss off. It would just make it glorious to see their meltdown. On the other hand, it would be as equally entertaining if the brexiteers won a second referendum.
Is it? Shedloads of multinationals are going to transfer headquarters there, they'll get the best of all worlds, language, timezone, within the EU but easy access to the UK, which will still be a significant market for them, and low tax. New opportunities all round. I can see the North may be a problem but in the South they'll lap it up.
The only country Brexit will screw is England itself.
...and Scotland and Northern Ireland and, technically, Wales.
We
Stand
Ready
apparently.
Only slightly hunched over, with our trousers and pants round our ankles, and our arseholes twitching with anticipated friction.
What a fecking mess.
Stand
Ready
apparently.
Only slightly hunched over, with our trousers and pants round our ankles, and our arseholes twitching with anticipated friction.
What a fecking mess.
A real shower of shit.
Tories in chaos and Labor frozen in fear on the issue for fear of upsetting people.
At companies I've worked for over the past 10 years, I've seen all production moved to eastern europe, before brexit was a thing. I've been made redundant because of it, before brexit was a thing. Its how things work.
A lot of the major milestones achieved in the EU over the course of its development were heavily influenced and in a lot of cases even driven by the UK and it's top decision makers. Europe IS the UKs project as much as anyone else's.
It's OK though because I belive the UK can grow their own apples mate, so yous will be fine.
The mid 1975 referendum is the when he was looking for I suspect.
The mid 1975 referendum is the when he was looking for I suspect.
Yes, but before ownership and production could stay in the UK and those companies would be able to trade unhindered within the European borders. Now, companies that want to trade in the EU and avoid tariffs will have to ensure that a large part of their business is 1. owned by European entities / citizens, and 2. a certain percentage of production HAS to be completed inside the borders of the EU.
Years ago, Dell moved it's computer assembly business from Ireland to Poland because the jobs were unskilled and the pay requirement was only minimum wage, and it just so happened Poland's unskilled labour was far cheaper than Irelands. That kind of move is fine, but when its high skilled labor jobs that are moving its another story. Take Rolls Royce jet engines as an example. The biggest earner for Rolls Royce on jet engines is the aftermarket servicing of the engines, not the sales of the engine. What happens when a services job like that is moved from its base in the UK? Or, Nissan in the northeast, something like 5000 employees, what happens if that shuts up shop? That's a pretty big domino to lose.
What I see potentially happening in the aftermath of what looks like now will be a no deal is that income taxes will go up so that the government can subsidise businesses to stay in the UK and try to offset any incurred expenses with business subsidies, like reduced corporation tax or jobs creation incentives.
At the end of the day, it will be the British tax payer that will foot the bill, which we've already seen by the commitments made by the British government to continue to pay the equivalent EU grants after membership ends.
IMO, yes there is going to be a couple of years where things are a little uncertain, but Britain will come out the other side. A lot of the uncertainty right now is because no one really knows what the playing field will be after Brexit, now we have a fair idea business and government can now start to get on with the task of building on the foundations of what will be on 29th March.
Just to add, Brexit has polarised everyone, which is completely understandable, but one thing everyone should be able to agree is that you should either be in, or out... one foot in and one foot out is not in the interest of Britain long term, the damage that could cause to Britain is a much bigger risk than completely out. It would be like having someone who doesn't know how to watersky tied to a speedboat, not a pretty sight.
Sure, it happened here too, over the past 30 years. I remember the doom and gloom very well. But access to the single market, a highly educated workforce, incentives and speaking English drew replacement industries here (biomedical, pharma and laterly tech). Replacement indigenous companies also grew out of the ashes of departed companies, taking advantage of the single market too.
Can you really deny that Brexit won't cause even more job flight?
I strongly doubt you'll find many people at all who'll agree you on that, let alone everyone. Some form of Soft Brexit is a far better option than totally out.