Seems more left wing and far left than anything but it could be a certain bunch posting all the time. Lib Dems in the UK sense are very few and far between in the real world, they don't get many votes or run many areas so I doubt it very much. It seems very pro Labour with Corbyn McDonnell types.
The Saudi Takeover Rumor Thread
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Seems more left wing and far left than anything but it could be a certain bunch posting all the time. Lib Dems in the UK sense are very few and far between in the real world, they don't get many votes or run many areas so I doubt it very much. It seems very pro Labour with Corbyn McDonnell types.
Labours own leader, one of the leading figures in the rise of the further left leaning element of UK politics is also one of the most outspoken critics of the EU and is most certainly a brexiter.
Many issues cross over the political divide. Brexit is neither right or left, nor is opposing regimes like the Saudis or even issues like climate change.
There were lots of lib dem voters until they fecked up and formed as government with the Tories
Didn't I just say that?
This thread is depressing. People okay with this because they want to buy Mbappe.
Not trying to turn this into a political debate but nearly everything that has gone wrong in the world - you can find U.S involvement in that.
"Of particular interest for contemporary Iran–United States relations are the repeated accusations that the U.S. government actively encouraged Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein to invade Iran (proponents of this theory frequently describe the U.S. as having given Saddam a "green light"),"
Why do people say things like “tHe CaF iS sO LeFt lEaNiNg” as if that’s supposed to come across as a bad thing? I’m very proud to be left leaning on most issues.
That’s not to say it’s not without its own issues, but for me it’s not hard to see which general direction of views is standing on the right side of history.
This is probably off topic, but I see it bandied about in far too many threads, this being the latest one, to not say anything.
(I am speaking about actual progressive vs conservative views, not the warped ones that exist in the US)
That’s not to say it’s not without its own issues, but for me it’s not hard to see which general direction of views is standing on the right side of history.
This is probably off topic, but I see it bandied about in far too many threads, this being the latest one, to not say anything.
(I am speaking about actual progressive vs conservative views, not the warped ones that exist in the US)
Did I stumble into the Brexit thread?
Yeah one guy came in claiming the CAF is too left leaning, and it kinda took off from there.
I was agreeing with and expanding on the point...
The Glazers will have to invest a lot of money to get this team back to the top, and they know it. If they are not willing to do this, then they should sell to the highest bidder.
Football isn't just about selling your soul to win things. A Saudi takeover is wank and would be a massively shite thing to happen. How that very obvious viewpoint creates twenty pages is mental. If you disagree with this being a bad thing, you are wrong and don't get football.
I never mentioned A Saudi takeover, but if a Billionaire from China or Japan came in with a bid, would you be happy.
Do you need the vast differences spelling out for you
It says right there it's a partnership to help promote football in the country.
It's a little different to the club being little more than a propaganda tool for the regime.
I hate when I see this thread.... don't want them anywhere near us.
Someone needs to let the Saudi's know that we get the most negative press, so it would defeat their agenda of using us as a political tool. They can go elsewhere.
Someone needs to let the Saudi's know that we get the most negative press, so it would defeat their agenda of using us as a political tool. They can go elsewhere.
If you find yourself in Bahrain on a Thursday night as I did some years ago, you will be looking at thousands of Saudis turning up for a few nights buzzing and shafting. There is a 16mile causeway from Saudi to Bahrain that is very busy come Thursday afternoon. Friday being the day of worship. A chain of TGIT outlets sprang up in the Middle East allegedly for ex-pats, and were really busy.
So you can be arrested and flogged in Riyadh for possessing alcohol and the same bloke that sentences you will be off his head on Thursday night in Bahrain. This is the hypocrisy of some countries that champion a particular religion. As in all cases, their are people that adhere to strict guidelines just to balance this up.
Anyhow, even if the Saudis bought United, it doesn’t follow that they could spend, spend and spend some more because of FFP and then we would be moaning about that just like City fans are now and have been since it’s inception. The President of China is a United fan but they have an even worse human rights record than the Saudis.
So you can be arrested and flogged in Riyadh for possessing alcohol and the same bloke that sentences you will be off his head on Thursday night in Bahrain. This is the hypocrisy of some countries that champion a particular religion. As in all cases, their are people that adhere to strict guidelines just to balance this up.
Anyhow, even if the Saudis bought United, it doesn’t follow that they could spend, spend and spend some more because of FFP and then we would be moaning about that just like City fans are now and have been since it’s inception. The President of China is a United fan but they have an even worse human rights record than the Saudis.
you're just wumming if you think that's any sort of equivalence with City's situation right now.I hope not.
Man Utd is historically a club supported by the working class and left wing.
I lean to the left myself. I would welcome new owners but not at the expense of lives, obviously.
The key thing here though is: innocent people will still die under these regimes, regardless of whether they acquire Manchester Utd or not.
Not leaving my home and becoming a global nomad isn’t an endorsement of the Government. It really is such a shit argument: if you don’t agree with a Government you should leave the country (not that it applies to me anyway).
Ridiculous!
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Emiratis or Qataris... please! But Saudis no!
Oh i didn't know you could phone up the Government and say i don't agree with your foreign policy so i'm not paying my taxes anymore. Good to know.
For me it's really very simple. If we get bought by the Saudi royal family and basically become the equivalent for Saudi Arabia's regime that City is for the UAE or PSG is for Qatar, I will no longer remain a fan of the club.
Anyone who does by the way and has ever criticized City for their "blood oil money" is a massive hypocrite.
Again, if the Saudi royal family buys the team I'm done with the club.
Anyone who does by the way and has ever criticized City for their "blood oil money" is a massive hypocrite.
Again, if the Saudi royal family buys the team I'm done with the club.
This is terrible logic. Using this line of thinking one could also say that it would've been fine if Hitler owned the club, because the Nazis were going to take over Europe and kill Jews regardless. Would you have been ok with United being Nazi owned? I would certainly hope not.
See ya!
The perfect storm of us been utter tripe atm, and no marks City ripping it up under similar ownership, has many willing to deal with the devil here.
I desperately want to see Jose & the Glazer's gone, and an end to the dross that is us, but all I can see is short term gain and long term pain if this were to happen.
I desperately want to see Jose & the Glazer's gone, and an end to the dross that is us, but all I can see is short term gain and long term pain if this were to happen.
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And if they don’t acquire United then I don’t need to condemn them on one hand, and then have to look at the crown prince sitting in Old Trafford and watching a United that he owns on the other hand. I really don’t see how that’s a key thing
The image of these murderous, oppressive men sitting in Old Trafford, next to a classy man like Sir Bobby who has given his entire life to this club, makes me want to vomit.
Is there any truth to these rumours? I really want to get the latest UWS to see what their cover story gets into...
And not a single soul would give a single feck. Spare us this houlier than thou crap until something really happens. It would take roughly one great signing and a couple of wins to get every single fan back on track, such is the game. It’s football, in England, not politics. I would bet pretty much all of the owners in every league has «something» murky hidden in their closets when it comes to acquiring money... it’s not our job to discover it (unless you’re an investigative journalist or work for the intelligence service that is).
And the political debate above is also very tedious, it’s a football forum for god’s sake. There are 16 year olds and 60-something people writing on here, and you have no clue which poster is what age, so claiming the general crowd is leftist is daft and just a desperate attempt to sound smart - on a football forum!
Am I missing something? Is there any credible evidence that this takeover is on the cards?
The moral question aside, is this going to happen? Honestly, it would not be a monumental surprise if it did, money talks, which is the major thing for the Glazers!
I wouldn't be so sure.
It's certainly not beyond the realms of possibillity.
The fact that Avram Glazier attended this meeting personally would suggest something is on the cards.
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You’ve got me wrong, I worded it badly.And if they don’t acquire United then I don’t need to condemn them on one hand, and then have to look at the crown prince sitting in Old Trafford and watching a United that he owns on the other hand. I really don’t see how that’s a key thing
I don’t condone the killing of innocents obviously. No one does, unless they are messed up in the head.
I just mean that, these evil regimes will always be dodgy with and without their playthings (like a football club.)
I want new owners but not ones that are known for torture or murder. Saying this, I know nothing about the Saudi’s we are linked with. Are they actually evil or are people generalising these kind of wealthy people?
Any country that doesnt allow black or death Metal is plain shady..
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/zngeew/anti-religious-black-metal-band-in-saudi-arabia-666
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/zngeew/anti-religious-black-metal-band-in-saudi-arabia-666
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