[Poll Added] Hypothetical: Next manager after Jose Mourinho

Who would be your current choice for next manager after Jose Mourinho?

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It's only Poch for me. I used to be on the Jardim train but not so sure now.

This is a 2-3 year project and Poch is the right man to build us back up. We have a lot of talent in the squad and the youth ranks, plus a lot of money. He is the only one who I think can utilize it to its full potential and have us competing with Liverpool and City.
 
How many managers are out there, people could say that they are on the rise.
 
BlueHaze said:
Pochettino is what most want and it would imo be the best choice out of any available and I could care less if he has won nothing. I do however believe he will 100% not end up here and when it comes to Tuchel I have no idea how or why people overrate him so much.
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Tuchel is like a combined of Klopp and Pep, his tactical is so silimar to them especially with genpressing Klopp is using and play the same 4-3-3 possession-based system as Pep without the “tiki-taka” element. His style of football is very enjoyable to watch.
 
Systematist coaches like Pep, Klopp, Lucien Favre, Tuchel, Wenger, Sarri, Poch, Bielsa, Enrique, Emery, etc type of coaches who seem to have their own style of play and have a clear gameplan about how they want to play, far more proactive in games with their style of play against opponents, they won't drop their style of play depending on opponents and play entertaining football, high pressing and play more of a team.

On other hands, individualist coaches like Zidane, Mourinho, Conte, Simeone, Allegri, Jardim, Benítez, etc have no 100% style of play, more reactive and pragmatic style of play depending on how to beat their opponents even if it takes ugly performance to grind out a win, their individual will have to create something out of nothing rather than playing as a team

I really don't want another reactive/individualist coaches, I'd prefer systematist coaches that can utilize our squad to 100% potential, playing as a team which we were crying out for years.
 
Rash Decision said:
I'd take Conte. At least he might have us playing competent defensive football. Sack him as soon as we find a better manager like City did with Pelligrini.
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He basically has the same attitude as Mourinho. Moaning to the board about transfer and blame players.
 
I think the most suitable manager right now should be someone who is still young and talented, not just someone who is proven. Long term success is built with plan and step by step may be 3 or 4 years. Get a proper DOF, so the club knows the step and direction that the club needs to go in the next 3 years.

We shouldn’t expect a winning the league right away from the new manager, I expect him to build the winning team, meet our philosophy, make progress every year.

Problem about Mourinho is that he’s not a type of long term manager, in my opinion when we got him we should only expect short term success and so far he hasn’t deliver that short term success and now we are going backwards which the reason why we should be replacing him now. Even if we somehow with miracle winning champions league, I cannot see him being a long term manager with us, he’s not a type of person who’s going to long term. The fact that he doesn’t like to rely on young players as his regular players show that he prefer the quick way to win something.
 
What is clear is that we need a change at the manager position, as Mourinho has proven over past three years that he has not and is possibly not capable of suiting the club in anyway, the bad results at the moment simply give the club a way out of this...aka mourinho's madrid was a one off and requires conditions that utd simply do not have at the moment.
Now that that is done with. I would rather utd sign a manager that is willing to conform to please the needs of the club rather than one set in his ways as LVG and Mourinho have proven. We need a manager that both respects the club and its traditions while giving the club the type of football the fans desire, and the truth is, this manager still has to be supported by both board and fans. The fans need to accept that time may be needed to return some of the quality back to the club that we had before. We essentially have a squad with 4 or 5 players that are of starting quality for a league challenger....to win the league 7 is the minimum, and for the champions league it needs to be 9. From the board, they need to support the manager with a technical director or director of football with the quality in negotiations and knowledge of finances to bring back value to our spending, sales, and wage structure. We have too many overpriced players that offer midtable to championship level quality. The manager and technical director may also have to be backed on sales that may affect marketing or even temporary quality.

With all this said, my top preference would be a manager like Eddie Howe, and I would not mind giving Nicky Butt a chance either. Another person made a welcome suggestion with the Renee Mulensteen as an assistant idea to bring back a bit of stability. I would also not mind bringing hungry ambitious managers like Jardim to the team who have a lot to prove and would have lots of respect for the club, I would however prefer their assistants be english to ease the barrier between players and management. As much as a new manager is needed, the most important factor in a return to success is the director of football or technical director, our major problem is the lack of quality in the squad. Our teams used to have flying wings, a hard working midfield, and solid defences. Now we have no pace on the right flank, no creativity bar Pogba, a slow plodding midfield, with no support down the flanks from either full backs or wingers and possibly one of the weakest and most unstable defensive units in the league.
 
Really depends on how one wants to move forward.

Jardim if one wants to try and 'get back amongst the pack' quickly.

Howe if one is willing to try and flush all current toxic elements out of the club wholesale.
 
The United board will be recommended to sign “the guy who used to manage Real”, and we’ll end up with Lopetegui rather than Zidane.

I wouldn’t get your hopes up for the future.
 
Dream scenario would be if Giggs can actually turns into a good manager and gets the job. Realistically though, someone with a modern brand of football like poch or tuchel. Not sure who is attainable at this point.
 
Rio and Ryan as joint coaches. Defence and attack minded approach both with the club at heart and understanding of the fans and philosophy.
What have we got to lose with the current state of play? Nothing!
 
It’s not really hypothetical anymore, Mourinho is essentially the Walking Dead. We need a manager who is known for getting his teams to play with intensity and effort before or else. We need a manager who is capable of identifying players who can play in such a way.

Pochettino - first choice no brainer but don’t think it’ll happen.

Setien - if we had a board who knew about football and thinking outside the box he’d be a great shout. Not Hollywood enough for Woodward though so never gonna happen.

Simeone - probably the most realistic one.

Zidane - he’ll probably be great for getting an instant reaction but we need to think a bit longer.

tuchel - dunno maybe he’ll get bored of PSG.
 
Allegri, Poch or Silva. In that order. Would love to see a new revised list of candidates on the poll.
 
1) Allegri, Poch, Simeone
2) Bielsa , Wenger, Favre

Hope we dont go for someone who has a very different style of play from what we have now. We really cannot afford to give another couple of years to rebuild. It doesn't work like that !
 
Jardim.

Get rid of some of the overpaid guys and the older players who are no longer performing, add some more young talent. Coach them properly and then let's go. No quick fix this time.

Think Jardim would do well with that brief. He's available now, why not at least interview him?

Allegri is another one that might be available at the end of the season, but he can be boring at times. We just need to stay away from anyone with too much of a defensive mindset. We've had enough now.
 
bond19821982 said:
1) Allegri, Poch, Simeone
2) Bielsa , Wenger, Favre

Hope we dont go for someone who has a very different style of play from what we have now. We really cannot afford to give another couple of years to rebuild. It doesn't work like that !
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Simeone has a very different style of play to Mourinho? He’ll make Mourinho look like Tuchel or something, it will be utterly unwatchable.
 
MrSingh2002 said:
Allegri, Poch or Silva. In that order. Would love to see a new revised list of candidates on the poll.
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Would also be my personal top 3 I think. Sarri would have probably replaced Silva before he went to Chelsea though.

I just hope it's not Simeone. He is the only manager out there whose brand of football is even worse to stomach than Mou's.
 
Allegri is a pragmatic manager and we should stay well clear. I've had enough of watching shit on a stick football. Same applies to Simeone and Conte.

I want to see us play entertaining football and hope we go for someone like Howe or Poch, would prefer Howe though.
 
Its plain to see Poch is destined to be a top coach. We should snap him up before he leaves for the big uns like Real or Bayern.
 
Leroy The Red said:
It’s not really hypothetical anymore, Mourinho is essentially the Walking Dead. We need a manager who is known for getting his teams to play with intensity and effort before or else. We need a manager who is capable of identifying players who can play in such a way.

Pochettino - first choice no brainer but don’t think it’ll happen.

Setien - if we had a board who knew about football and thinking outside the box he’d be a great shout. Not Hollywood enough for Woodward though so never gonna happen.

Simeone - probably the most realistic one.

Zidane - he’ll probably be great for getting an instant reaction but we need to think a bit longer.

tuchel - dunno maybe he’ll get bored of PSG.
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Haven't we all had enough of defensive dull football?
 
Adnan said:
Allegri is a pragmatic manager and we should stay well clear. I've had enough of watching shit on a stick football. Same applies to Simeone and Conte.

I want to see us play entertaining football and hope we go for someone like Howe or Poch, would prefer Howe though.
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Why Howe over Poch?
Poch has went toe to toe with top teams like Real and Juve while Eddie Howe is well Eddie Howe. He wouldnt be able to cope with the pressure of a big team. Spurs to Utd is not that big of a step up. Howe would be Moyes 2.0. Besides, dont reckon we are in position to gamble with young managers like Howe. It can easily go either way. Poch has played in the CL and has proved himself im the league. He is the safer bet. If we get the next appointment wrong we are pretty much fecked.
 
We should go all in for Poch this summer, but I’d like an interim coach just to get the moral back up and start playing some decent football.
 
Poch would be the ideal replacement for Mou but why would he leave Spurs for United? Given the damage done by the last three managers it may be difficult to attract a truly top, proven manager. We may have to go with Giggs, with all of the risks -- but potential upside -- that brings.
 
Poch is obviously first choice. Will be difficult.

Then in no particular order and more realisitc Jardim, Howe, Blanc and Zidane. Maybe that chap from Betis too
 
Suvaid666 said:
Why Howe over Poch?
Poch has went toe to toe with top teams like Real and Juve while Eddie Howe is well Eddie Howe. He wouldnt be able to cope with the pressure of a big team. Spurs to Utd is not that big of a step up. Howe would be Moyes 2.0. Besides, dont reckon we are in position to gamble with young managers like Howe. It can easily go either way. Poch has played in the CL and has proved himself im the league. He is the safer bet. If we get the next appointment wrong we are pretty much fecked.
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Because I believe Howe plays a even more attacking brand of football and he manages Bournemouth. I believe he'll prove himself if given the opportunity. And how on earth do you know he couldn't cope with the pressure?

Did Del Bosque struggle to cope with the pressure when he was given the Real Madrid job in the early 2000's? Did Barca B coaches Guardiola and Tito struggle with the pressure when they were given the top job at Barca? I can name other unproven managers they hired and still carried on winning.

I wouldn't mind Poch at all but would like us to go for Howe due to his footballing mantra.
 
I just don't think any manager or player has the balls to come here and do what the fans want them to do. Woodward is our biggest obstacle right now because he is not a football first CEO. His strategy is based on marketing the club and his only problem with not winning trophies is that he doesn't get his picture taken holding them aloft, if the money rolls in, that's all that matters.
Mourinho should really have been given a CB in the summer. His whole game is based on a confident and powerful defense to allow the attackers to do there thing. Unfortunately our attackers are just as inept as the rest of the squad. Jose has unwisely crossed the line a number of times and I get the feeling now that this squad just won't play for him and he seems unwilling to coach and motivate them.

Let's be honest with ourselves guys. The players must take the lions share of the blame. They fail at the basics of the game and have ignored the instincts that got them where they are. We have had players on the peripheral of the squad in years past that are far more capable on the pitch than our most recent expensive signings. Chicharito was castigated for his hold up play but right now I would take that over Lukaku. Fortune and P. Neville were more consistent then pogba has been in the last two years. I would take a John O'Shea over any of our back line right now.
Can our players really raise their game to a world class level, I think they definitely can. But we need the right manager who are right now currently like world class forwards, rare. Klopp and Pep, although great at what they do have flaws to there management. Get Klopp to a final and the cup is as good as yours, beat Pep to a league title and it's suddenly sabbatical time. The perfect manager for us doesn't exist right now unfortunately. Until one does come around we need to be sensible but you know Ed would be in the papers, bent over, if Pep or Klopp even hinted that they wanted to leave their clubs. This is how a lot of players get big pay rises, the club and Woodward's naivety.
Mourinho will have to go, either before the new year or in the summer. If Pochetino really wanted to prove his worth, this is the job. Levi and Real/Barca/Munich will certainly have a say if and when he is ready. Will he want to come to us, I don't know and don't really care, good manager but I want to see that win at all cost attitude and I just don't see it in him. But until he decides, what the feck do we do?
We need to plan accordingly while getting the supporters back onside so that really should mean attacking football at all costs. We do have options if Mourinho does leave mid season. I suggest Laurent Blanc in the very short term or Nicky Butt in the interim while we go after someone who fits the club and it's ethos. City built the structure for Pep for over two years before he arrived, we should be doing the same so when that person does arrive the plan is already in action.
 
bond19821982 said:
1) Allegri, Poch, Simeone
2) Bielsa , Wenger, Favre

Hope we dont go for someone who has a very different style of play from what we have now. We really cannot afford to give another couple of years to rebuild. It doesn't work like that !
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Simeone is very similar to Jose. Ultra defensive and focuses on getting results.
 
UNITED ACADEMY said:
He basically has the same attitude as Mourinho. Moaning to the board about transfer and blame players.
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His whining was more justified though. Won the league and instead of backing him they made transfers against his wishes. The falling out with players is a problem and I'm certain it would happen here as well.

sunama said:
Simeone is very similar to Jose. Ultra defensive and focuses on getting results.
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True, but he seems to lack the season 3 meltdown factor with 7 years at the same club already.
 
I do like Eddie Howe but if the choice was between Pochetinho and Howe then i’d Go Poch everytime. Feel somewhat like Howes next step should probably be the Spurs job or Everton something like that.

If he was who we chose then I’d be alright with it and intrigued to see how he would get on and could he build that thing teams like City, Spurs, Pool, Bournemouth and the Man United woman’s team have which is like a joy of playing and fighting for each other and the manager. These teams really seem to have a friendship a bond just something with everyone pulling in the right direction. Jose’s first Chelsea team had that but I’ve never seen him do it since.
 
vidic blood & sand said:
Haven't we all had enough of defensive dull football?
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Think that's an untruth to be honest. I think sometimes people make their minds up about something and no matter what stick by it. Atletico are defensive when necessary but even when they are they actually play with intensity and like they give a shit and there's structure to it. It's not just putting 9 behind the ball and lumping it as we've done under Mourinho.
 
sunama said:
Simeone is very similar to Jose. Ultra defensive and focuses on getting results.
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He's largely quite defensive but I'd argue has spent the majority of his career at a club where he's largely had to be to get results: he's generally not had the players to play open, expansive football like Barca or Real and so has had to be more pragmatic as a result.

Still, even if he isn't the most exciting, I'd argue he's a lot more tactically adept than Mourinho is currently, in that the game hasn't left him behind, and he's also demonstrated a certain longevity that Jose lacks; not that we necessarily need a long-term manager, but it'd be nice to have someone who can last for a few years without basically alienating the entirety of our squad.
 
Jardim. Or thinking left field, wouldn't mind poaching Bielsa from Leeds. At least even if he has a meltdown, it won't be boring.:D

I have reservations over Zidane, Howe and Poch. Zidane - he's not proven himself with an ordinary squad like ours yet. Plus, he's a winner but his football is far from fluid all the time. In his third season, Real were just grinding out results playing quite boring football for their standards.

Howe - Not yet. Needs to manage a Top 6 club in any league before managing us. Poch - His lack of trophies with Spurs, poor European record barring last season and the fact that his football, while decent, is not as great as his fans make it out to be.

Of course, I'm not against any of those 3 being hired, but these are my concerns.

It really is a conundrum. There is a severe lack of options at the moment. Only manager who ticks almost all boxes is Conte, but he is too similar to Jose.
 
Adnan said:
Because I believe Howe plays a even more attacking brand of football and he manages Bournemouth. I believe he'll prove himself if given the opportunity. And how on earth do you know he couldn't cope with the pressure?

Did Del Bosque struggle to cope with the pressure when he was given the Real Madrid job in the early 2000's? Did Barca B coaches Guardiola and Tito struggle with the pressure when they were given the top job at Barca? I can name other unproven managers they hired and still carried on winning.

I wouldn't mind Poch at all but would like us to go for Howe due to his footballing mantra.
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How do you know he can? As I said we are in a precarious position and another failed manager would be disasterous. We are not in a position to take risks appointing a young unproven manager.
Del Bosque knew the club inside out before he was given the job full time. He even managed Real for a few games as an interimn manager. Its a different gravy appointing a manager not from within. Same goes for Pep he managed Barca B he was all about the club ethos and playing style. Hard to compare them with Howe who would be an outsider. Not to mention the fact Barca and Real weren't as crap as we are if my memory serves me right.
 
lex talionis said:
Poch would be the ideal replacement for Mou but why would he leave Spurs for United? Given the damage done by the last three managers it may be difficult to attract a truly top, proven manager. We may have to go with Giggs, with all of the risks -- but potential upside -- that brings.
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Why?

Because it's the next level of progression for his career.
 
Leroy The Red said:
Think that's an untruth to be honest. I think sometimes people make their minds up about something and no matter what stick by it. Atletico are defensive when necessary but even when they are they actually play with intensity and like they give a shit and there's structure to it. It's not just putting 9 behind the ball and lumping it as we've done under Mourinho.
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They're counter attacking specialists with a rock solid defence. We want to see relentless creativity and attacking. We are United.
 
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