Not the case in Tottenham in 2011. That was over one incident and it spread. This has far deeper consequences. Your team won 1-0 fair and square and someone comes along and say's no. The other team won.
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Riots are forgotten in a few weeks anyway
You really think France is going to implode and never recover from their recent riots?
You really think France is going to implode and never recover from their recent riots?
London riots only lasted a number of days though? For all the looting and stuff, it was over pretty quickly.
Even if it a bit of unrest occurred for a few weeks, that's still something I'd file under 'fcuk all happened'.
I call BS. Other than the reasons mentioned in response to your previous post. Why would the potential reaction of leave voters being ignored be any more dangerous than the potential reaction of remain voters feeling they have been pushed into turmoil for at least a decade against their wishes? Based on a marginal majority of people that voted in 2016, add dishonesty, fake news and lies right up until where we are today....
How do you see that reaction manifesting anyway?
That riot was a reaction to a police shooting, different reasons, different history, different demographics.... It's apples and oranges.
I can see the army of mobility scooters rolling down whitehall as we speak 
Only the 'hardcore' no deal muppets would actually be that angry about it. The rest of those who voted leave will just pout a bit - if they're even still paying attention.
I'd bet a chunk of leave voters just want to forget the whole thing or don't even realise we haven't already left.
Only the 'hardcore' no deal muppets would actually be that angry about it. The rest of those who voted leave will just pout a bit - if they're even still paying attention.
I'd bet a chunk of leave voters just want to forget the whole thing or don't even realise we haven't already left.
I agree that this 'no Brexit' civil unrest stuff is massively overdone. A bit of silliness aside, it will mostly just be sullen acceptance.
#GolfClap
Which means that No deal is not off the table, because it would still happen if Leave won another referendum or if there is no other option.
I hope that the UK wake up in time and also not believe in Corbyn's fantasy either.
If Leave won a second referendum then Britain deserves the hardest of hard Brexits.
If only there was some sort of ongoing debate on Brexit this week.
Bloody Corbyn wanting to talk about actual people's lives again.
The political editor of the Times put it well..
Corbyn has the political instincts of a first year student union member. This is a time when the government is teetering on the brink of collapse, and this fecking idiot is handing them exactly what they need the most to restabilize.
There is a 5 day fecking debate on Brexit happening this week. I realise actual living people's lives are of little importance to the Westminster bubble, but I didn't think 5 questions in a 20 minute window would be too much.
He asks the same ones every week and gets the same answers though.
Whereas if he asked questions on Brexit, may would resign on the spot and offer him the front door keys to Number 10? Or she'd spew out 'national interest' a half dozen times and the political editor of the Times and Nick Robinson can wank themselves silly over her stoicism.
It's quite staggering how everyone clamouring for a People's Vote isn't even able to pretend to be concerned about the lives of the very people they'd have to try and get to vote their way. The pride they take in it too is something else.
You're talking about the patient with a broken leg when the hospital is on fire.
The patient has been wrongfully deported and died without access to medical care, whilst the media giggle at how the person responsible for their deportation dances to ABBA.
Too soon?
PMQs for Corbyn is merely a mechanism to generate effective video clips for social media which is all that he can expect given May's constant refusal to answer any questions directly and without waffle. PMQs is utterly pointless for anything else and has been for many years. Corbyn, to his credit, understands this and although the twitter commentariat may deride his questioning today he has managed to get himself a nice little clip of him scolding the PM for laughing at poverty which Labour can wheel out out at the next election.
Watch him talk about the UN report for the whole 5 days. It's not that the report is not important and is not deserving of mention and discussion. But this is basically Corbyn stuck on 1 gear, the one that is about inequality and the poor. He's out of his comfort zone talking about anything else or having a clear and coherent position about other important political matters. Or he's entirely disinterested, who knows.
Ironically, Brexit will lead to a recession by even the most optimistic govt estimates. The effects of which are always felt the most by the most vulnerable. Yet he's still failing to form a clear alternative position as a leader of the opposition party. The most opposition May is facing is from the backbenchers in her own party, the DUP, the Lib Dems and the SNP. While Corbyn's Labour appears essentially indifferent, unlike their voting base.
Will it be bad enough that daring to take 20 minutes to talk about the people who are affected by it, won't be mocked by the media? Because, obviously the current lot hasn't reached that yet.
You mean repeating the same things he's been saying for month after month, at a point where there's a critically important issue with a rapidly declining time limit happening?
There's a five day debate on Brexit. Five days.
Do you think he's going to bring down the government if he asks 6 more questions on Brexit? If so, I can do you a cracking deal on some magic beans.
I still haven't quite understood the purpose of the TV debate.
Two people who both want Brexit, who want to respect the 'will of the people'.
One of them has brought back an offer (the only offer) from the EU.
The other says nothing other than he could do better - which he obviously can't because there's nothing else to have.
They debate in front of a TV audience who have no say on the vote in parliament. What is different to what goes on and has been going on for the past two years or so?
No comprendo.
Tune in & find out like the rest of us!
Ok, so he's had a year and a half to talk about austerity, but its suddenly critically important that he spends the 5 days set aside for Brexit debate talking about austerity?
Do you think the government are going to suddenly shower the poorest in society with wads of cash, because Jeremy continues to talk about it during the Brexit debate? Or is he just perhaps going to miss a golden opportunity to pile more pressure on an already wobbling government?
Nobody does.
I'm long past believing that he's just waiting for his moment. I think he genuinely doesn't want to avoid Brexit.
Is it still going on, by any chance?
Twenty minutes of a week that sees five days of debate is too much for you. How the fecking christ do you think you're going to be able to pretend to care about people's lives for long enough to get them to vote your way in a second referendum?
You could agree to stay in the customs union - that is softer and also solves the Irish border problem.
I hope you are wrong... i am hoping he will suddenly rip open his shirt to show off an EU flag underneath on live tv.
Maybe i should let it go..
Typical Corbynista wankery. I actually support his economic policies and given that my family is from a deprived as feck ex-mining area (and most of them still live there), yes I actually care about poor people. But hey, I think Corbyn is making a huge tactical mistake and also is being a hypocritical prick, so yeah I must be anti-poor people.
I hope I'm wrong too.
He is quite happy for Brexit to happen, that is obvious and to be fair to him has been his position for decades. Unfortunately it also means he is complicit in all this and has utterly failed to hold the Government to account and is completely and utterly useless.
Six questions in twenty minutes or so was too long, so are you a 5 question level concerned about poor people or is it the time that's the problem? Is 15 minutes your cut off point? 10?
@Dobba are you leave or remain?
I think we're very far from what you've described, like the opposite pole in fact. Corbyn is mocked for talking about the same thing over and over again, even when the present debate is not about that. Not for taking 20 mins to talk about something that he doesn't spend the other 365 days of the year talking about.
May's deal means the whole of the Uk is staying in the Customs union until they find a solution to the problem of the border ie indefinitely. If the Uk went for Norway it doesn't include being in the CU.
May's deal may be rubbish but it's better than any other option apart from remain - unless of course someone is a Brexiter and wants to break the GFA and sabotage the UK economy.
Remain, which just about beats complete indifference by the width of a rizla. In fact, I'd rate the EU 5.000001/10.
Do you actually give a toss about getting any kind of result for poor people or is it more important to you that Jeremy gets to keep repeating himself? This week is a GIANT opportunity to topple a government, prevent a huge economic disaster for the UK< and then almost inevitably get another election. Does any of that actually matter to you, or is Jeremy staying ideologically pure more important?