Middle East Politics

Some quick thoughts here on the situation Netanyahu finds himself in:

http://yaacovlozowick.blogspot.com/2018/11/netanyahus-quandry-mid-november-2018.html

"Spare a moment to reflect on the hardship of being Binyamin Netanyahu this week. Actually, don’t. He’s a very powerful man and deserves none of our emotional support. Still, the position he finds himself in is quite instructive, far beyond the impact of the present news cycle.

As a leader of the opposition Netanyahu routinely taunted the government by promising that when he returned to power he’d act decisively and effectively against Palestinian violence. Israeli social media is full of his erstwhile plans for Hamas in Gaza, which he promised to rout once and for all. Yet here he is, starting the week by authorizing the transfer of millions of dollars from Qatar to bolster the rule of Hamas in Gaza, then sending the IAF to carefully bomb a series of pre-marked targets in Gaza, then accepting a cease-fire with Hamas, then watching his coalition crumble. His political allies and rivals will use all this to attack him for his indecisiveness.

Part of this is that Netanyahu truly dislikes sending soldiers to their deaths. I once saw this close up, and wrote about it here. Yet there’s an important structural explanation which needs elucidating, and that is the darker and often overlooked side of the vaunted “managing the conflict” policy.

Arguably, this policy has been the central plank of Israel’s behavior since the failure of the Oslo Process. If one assumes the most Israel can offer the Palestinians is considerably less than the minimum they demand in return for ending the conflict – or, vice versa, the most the Palestinians can offer Israel is less than the Israelis demand to hand over full control to a sovereign Palestinian State – then there’s no chance of peace. Or at least, there’s no chance until one of the sides changes its fundamental position. The goal then becomes managing the conflict with a minimum of violence, not trying to end it. Most Israelis, with the exception of the political extremes, subscribe to some version of this policy. It may well be that a majority of Palestinians also accept it, probably hoping that someday Israel will tire and waver. Well-meaning foreigners such as Barack Obama and John Kerry keep on hoping to break this model, and they keep on failing.

But there’s a snag: managing means you don’t make a dash towards peace, which is unachievable. It also means, however, that you never convincingly defeat your enemy. Managing is predicated on the enemy’s permanence. You can’t reach an agreement that will make the enmity go away; but nor can you take military measures that will make the enemy go away. As Netanyahu knows, the IDF could conquer Gaza and kill most of the leaders of Hamas. And then what? Would Hamas’ ideology of hitting Israel until some day it collapses, also go away? It wouldn’t. Would a new chapter of Israeli rule in Gaza do anyone any good? Most certainly not.

And so Netanyahu the Prime Minister does the opposite of what Netanyahu the opposition leader said he would. He tries to contain Hamas and limit its harm, while bolstering Hamas so that it bears responsibility for Gaza; better they than we. His gamble is that most Israelis understand what he’s doing and grudgingly agree: and they’ll give him yet another electoral victory sometime in 2019."​
 
Another (long) report on the by now long-touted long-term 'truce' or ceasefire proposal:

Rebuilding the Gaza Ceasefire
A ceasefire agreement has brought Israel and Gaza's Islamist rulers Hamas back from the cusp of yet another calamitous war. However fragile, it offers a rare opportunity for all parties to finally break the cycle of recurring hostilities that has killed thousands since 2007.

https://www.crisisgroup.org/middle-...israelpalestine/191-rebuilding-gaza-ceasefire

What’s new? For the first time since the 2014 war, a plan for a long-term ceasefire between Hamas and Israel started to take hold in early November, only to be disrupted by the largest escalation in over four years. The ceasefire has been restored, but it remains fragile.

Why does it matter? Sporadic escalations between Israel and Hamas since 2007 have claimed the lives of thousands of Palestinians and tens of Israelis. Coupled with an Israeli/Egyptian blockade on Gaza, the conflict is causing widespread suffering among the strip’s two million Palestinians. The current ceasefire offers a pathway to breaking this deadlock.

What should be done? Hamas should keep curbing protests and attacks from Gaza; Egypt and Israel should greatly relax the strip’s closure; and donors should quickly supply Gazans with clean water, electricity and sanitation. Meanwhile, international stakeholders should press Israel, Hamas, the Palestinian Authority and Egypt to uphold the ceasefire in all its phases.
 
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Bennett bottled it at the last minute, handing Netanyahu yet another political victory; no elections just yet:

 
Syrian government claiming that opposition fighters launched a chlorine attack on regime-held areas in Aleppo:

 
Syrian government claiming that opposition fighters launched a chlorine attack on regime-held areas in Aleppo:



Wait, I thought that the opposition didn't have any chemical weapons, and this was the justification for blaming the government for every incident without any sort of investigation? Now you tell me that when ISIS and Al-Nusra over ran half of Syria, they might have gotten chemical weapons?

WTF!
 
Wait, I thought that the opposition didn't have any chemical weapons, and this was the justification for blaming the government for every incident without any sort of investigation? Now you tell me that when ISIS and Al-Nusra over ran half of Syria, they might have gotten chemical weapons?

WTF!

UN investigations have confirmed that opposition groups have used chemical weapons in this conflict ages ago, so I'm not sure who you're arguing with here.
 
UN investigations have confirmed that opposition groups have used chemical weapons in this conflict ages ago, so I'm not sure who you're arguing with here.
I think he has some sort of feed that alerts him to any opportunity to talk negatively about the US.
 
UN investigations have confirmed that opposition groups have used chemical weapons in this conflict ages ago, so I'm not sure who you're arguing with here.

I was being sarcastic. Whooooosh.
 
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I think he has some sort of feed that alerts him to any opportunity to talk negatively about the US.

No, I just don't blame other countries for doing what we do ourselves. I don't live in a delusion, where I have to pretend that somehow we're the good guys, and they are the bad guys, or even that there is a team good and a team bad. People who fabricate this construction, are who I like to talk negatively about. I also love how if I point this hypocrisy out, I am "anti" USA.

Here is something that will blow your mind. I'm pro-west. I'm glad that we are running things. I'm glad that we are on top. I just don't begrudge others for trying to play the game our country and our closest allies are running. I think drones are great. I see them as no different than an F-16 or an F-18 dropping a JDAM, in fact, I see them as better and more efficient. No pilot fatigue, no risk to the pilot. This isn't dueling pistols, this is warfare, and you win wars by not fighting fair.

This is not a black and white issue, and yes, I tend to have a world view most people cannot wrap their heads around. We do plenty of evil shit. So do the Russians, and the Syrians, and every other country on the planet. What I don't do, is pretend we're sugar and spice, and our farts smell like roses. If you need to construct this delusion for yourself, cool. Let me know when you grow up and realize nuance is a thing.
 
Kerfuffle in Lebanon:

 
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Nice, perhaps the city was at least on par with most big cities of the Western world?

By 1915 probably not, the city's glory years were centuries before. I believe Aleppo was considered the bigger, more vital city in the last few centuries of Ottoman rule in Syria. By the First World War the city's importance was more symbolic than material.
 
Bush dodged like a pro. Quite remarkable he saw the funny side. Bush and Blair ruined that nation.
 
Tolerance in UAE? Outside of Saudi-Arabia it is the most intolerant country I've been to, and I've travelled for 3-4 years to both. The skyscrapers and shiny glass facades in UAE doesn't change that.
 
Tolerance in UAE? Outside of Saudi-Arabia it is the most intolerant country I've been to, and I've travelled for 3-4 years to both. The skyscrapers and shiny glass facades in UAE doesn't change that.

Agreed. Dubai has a bit of a creepy undercurrent of intolerance that many westerners aren't exposed to.
 
Looks like curtains for the Syrian Kurds:

 
Looks like curtains for the Syrian Kurds:


Not the first time they’ve been let down by the Yanks, and won’t be the last either.

Their only real option now is to cut a deal with Assad, surrendering territory back to the government in return for some form of semi-autonomy.
 
Also, how much of this do we think is down to the Kashoggi tension? Part of me thinks this is Trump attempting to placate the Turks in order to cool their probing of the Saudis.
 
Not the first time they’ve been let down by the Yanks, and won’t be the last either.

Their only real option now is to cut a deal with Assad, surrendering territory back to the government in return for some form of semi-autonomy.

They haven't been let down since the US purpose in Syria was to pursue ISIS, not help the Kurds exploit the chaos to initiate in a land grab.
 
They haven't been let down since the US purpose in Syria was to pursue ISIS, not help the Kurds exploit the chaos to initiate in a land grab.
Is that why they helped the FSA and their associates make a grab for regime territory?
 
Is that why they helped the FSA and their associates make a grab for regime territory?

The policy at that time was Assad's tenure was going to end so they thought they could help what they thought were moderates (bad move in retrospect). The kurds were obviously tangentially part of the equation but it was never meant to help some sort of diaspora landgrab.
 
Is that why they helped the FSA and their associates make a grab for regime territory?
Kurds have also grabbed Sunni Arab and Assyrian territories. Kurds didn't constitute the majority in today defacto "Rojava" before the war.
 
Also, how much of this do we think is down to the Kashoggi tension? Part of me thinks this is Trump attempting to placate the Turks in order to cool their probing of the Saudis.

There is also this from last night:



But this was always going to happen, no US administration was ever going to blow the alliance with Turkey for the sake of the Kurds.
 
The policy at that time was Assad's tenure was going to end so they thought they could help what they thought were moderates (bad move in retrospect). The kurds were obviously tangentially part of the equation but it was never meant to help some sort of diaspora landgrab.
Not really, it’s been well known that it’s been US policy since 2005 to dispose of Assad, this was only a continuation of an existing doctrine to overthrow him.