North Cornwall in the mid 1960s. I just spoke to him about it earlier this morning, he said they probably asked him some highway code questions but he couldn't remember. He just remembers being asked a few questions about the car and as he'd grown up building and riding motorbikes and it was my Nan's car he was driving and he'd taken that engine apart and fixed it a few times, he remembers talking to the examiner about that and that which was probably good enough for him.
Dithering rich prat in a 4x4 causes car crash and almost kills a baby
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North Cornwall in the mid 1960s. I just spoke to him about it earlier this morning, he said they probably asked him some highway code questions but he couldn't remember. He just remembers being asked a few questions about the car and as he'd grown up building and riding motorbikes and it was my Nan's car he was driving and he'd taken that engine apart and fixed it a few times, he remembers talking to the examiner about that and that which was probably good enough for him.
The speed limit isn't an order to drive at that speed. The problem is other people driving too fast and often over the limit. I've been driving for 40 years and in my opinion the worst offenders are baseball cap wearing midgets in modded to feckery Nissan Micras.
What I'm obviously suggesting is that everyone, regardless of age, has to resit it every few years. Is your eyesight alright? Are you able to read a number plate from 20 metres or do you need taking off the road pal?
I can actually imagine that, particularly of Cornwall for some reason!
I grew up partly in Kent countryside during the middle 1960's and can still remember what the roads were like and being taken into the village by pony and trap by my 'aunt'.
I know I was just being facetious. I wouldn’t advocate a complete resit every few years, just a couple of tests to deterime whether the person is physically capable of driving to an acceptable standard.
Even this can still can still cause many accidents, there is nothing worse for me than coming across someone doing below the speed limit or someone on a motor way, ridiculous. The frustration people build being stuck behind these people on say single lane country roads that are 60mph and you’re stuck behind someone doing 40 or less leads to people having to try and overtake In less than ideal circumstances.
But old people driving within the speed limit are obeying the law. Making risky overtaking manoeuvres due to a lack of patience is the problem here therefore the dangerous drivers are the ones at fault, driving recklessly and possibly breaking the law.
Too many young people in a rush on the caf. It's a speed limit - it's not an order to drive at that speed simply to not exceed it.
You forgot the texters and the plugged in phone chatterers. They are lethal at times.
Absolutely. No chance of tech fearing oldies wiping out a bus shelter full of fellow pensioners whilst posting on snapchat or some other nonsense. They're too busy obeying the law and driving sensibly in amongst the madness.
Anyway gotta go as I'm pulling in at the next services for a dump.
Driving dangerously below the speed limit is also perceived as breaking the law hence why people can and do get pulled over for it and given a warning. Have you never been on the motorway and you’re in the fast lane overtaking people and someone is preparing to turn right so you back off and pull in to the left only to have to jam on the breaks for someone “older” person doing 50? That’s dangerous. Or joint a motorway going up a slip road and they are doing 40 and they join a motorway at that speed? That can cause serious accidents. I’m sorry but pootiling about can cause just as much accidents.
Obviously crawling along way below a speed limit can create problems. Doing 40 in a 60 zone though is legit and if you're freaking out behind them it's your problem not theirs.
That would be perceived as dangerously below the speed limit because it’s considered as causing a hazard. Here are the laws on it and yeah doing 40 in a 60 would be perceived as breaking the law.
https://www.carkeys.co.uk/news/driving-below-the-speed-limit-can-land-you-a-huge-fine
There are lots of other reasearch on how 10mph below the speed limit ican be more dangerous than 10mph above. Depends on the situation of course, if you’re doing 40 in a 30 in a built up area then you’re being stupid.
Obviously if something happens then likely hood is the faster car will do more damage.
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The only thing worse than being in an accident is being in one caused by a prick who is above the law. England needs to disband the royal family, they are a nice call back to a colonial history that will never come again. The guy should be took off the road just like Andrew should be excluded from being around children but hur dur they are our Monarchy who contribute nothing to the UK.
I remember when the Queen came and thousands of people in Dublin couldn't get to work or college. What a bitch who contributes nothing to everyday life.
I remember when the Queen came and thousands of people in Dublin couldn't get to work or college. What a bitch who contributes nothing to everyday life.
No, it isn't but if people are going unduly slowly that is not only dangerous but selfish and inconsiderate
I read your article and although I agree strongly with the premise that too slow is dangerous I don't believe - and I don't think your article makes the point - that 40mph on a single carriage A road marked National Speed Limit will get you a ticket.
You drive to the conditions and particularly you drive to what feels safe for the road and traffic.
What I notice around our area of Lancs and North Merseyside is that a lot of previously Nat. Speed Limit are now 50mph.
In other articles and I think in that one it’s explained as causing a hazard on the roads, if you are seen to be inconveniencing other drivers on the road you are viewed as causing a Hazard and being 10mph below the speed limit can be seen as causing a hazard.
Obviously road conditions come in to consideration, if it’s icy, wet, snow or sun issues then of course that’s excusable, more than likely others on the road will be doing the same thing so it shouldn’t be an issue but on a perfectly normal driving day it is. In the end I think it comes down to the officers perception as they are told to look for hazards on the road I don’t imagine many really go out looking for that as much as they do people speeding.
Being able to drive properly and being willing to drive properly is the difference, at what ever age! Road and traffic conditions should always be the limiting factors in driving properly, usually experience is the key in these matters, driving under as well as over the speed limit, centre lane hogging on motorways or worse still in third lane can all be dangerous as well as irritating. The thing that drives me mad is those drivers who clearly believe the rules do not apply to them, and such drivers can be any age!
I liked the comment yesterday about the Duke having to apply for his licence every three years, like everyone else, except the Queen... because the licences are issued in her name!
I liked the comment yesterday about the Duke having to apply for his licence every three years, like everyone else, except the Queen... because the licences are issued in her name!
I'm sorry, we just disagree and not to be argumentative I'd be interested in what any of our police brothers on here have to say but I've never experienced anyone getting stopped or heard of a ticketing for going 10mph under on a National Speed Limit Rated A Road, not even at 40mph.
We'll just differ amicably I hope and maybe wait for guidance or sheer weight of numbers polling!
I used to find it very difficult to be patient in that I'd do a lot of miles, be super incompetently confident in my wishes to be somewhere as fast as I absolutely could but I came to see that other people use the road, need to and have a right to do so as safely as they feel able. Not causing inconvenience but driving economically and to their abilities. It doesn't cost us anything at all but seconds or even a few minutes to be generous.
Well, this went off topic in a big fecking way 
I thought you were talking about me but then I remembered my car is rear wheel drive you bounder.Well, this went off topic in a big fecking way
I think every thread has an "Oates can say what he wants" pass anyway so it wouldn't have mattered, chief.
oates says what he likes and no-one takes any notice anymore.He’s back driving today
He’s back driving today
Gotta admire him.I agree that he shouldn't be driving but it's not his fault that it's allowed. If I get to be 97 I want to do as I please too
I was super-impressed that the very next day after wrecking your expensive car, another identical brand-new car is delivered to your door under police escort. I doubt even the Kardashians could get that that kind of service.
Hopefully next time he'll drive it into a tree with nobody else around. Stupid twat.
This is the sticker for me, 40, on a 60 limit in good driving conditions is causing inconvenience to others, and if that's driving to their abilities then their abilities are not up to scratch. Not just focusing I the elderly but nervous and hesitant drivers are every bit as dangerous as cocky and over confident ones.
Not wanting to comment too much as I do t know all the details yet, but an elderly driver plowed through the front door of the range here yesterday, pretty much exactly 24 hours earlier I'd been walking through those doors with my Mrs and daughter. There MUST absolutely be greater more regular checks on driving abilities, mostly for the elderly, but really for everyone else too.
It's amazing.
Incidentally, he wasn't even wearing a seatbelt when he was pictured yesterday.
He needs to be kicked off the road before he kills himself or someone else. Utterly selfish.
This. How can he be driving again after that?!It's amazing.
Incidentally, he wasn't even wearing a seatbelt when he was pictured yesterday.
He needs to be kicked off the road before he kills himself or someone else. Utterly selfish.
I disagree. Young people are often the best drivers but a few truly terrible youngsters warp the statistics.
That sounds like bollocks mate?
And I never see really young drivers do this. Mainly people in their 30's.
I don't know why you are asking me Wibbs. I only lived and worked there.
I've lived and worked all over the UK and the world and I've never encountered a situation where speeding made you safer.
It's amazing.
Incidentally, he wasn't even wearing a seatbelt when he was pictured yesterday.
He needs to be kicked off the road before he kills himself or someone else. Utterly selfish.
This has triggered me. Selfish prick and he'll just get a slap on the wrist rather than being banned from driving for a while (or ever again).
I think you've got the wrong end of the stick Wibbs. My meaning was that it was very dangerous.
You have some roads with fairly long straights particularly on the fens but also on the coast with the A149 and some very heavy footed worzel gummidges.
Not even a slap on the wrist mate.
Here's the quote from the BBC:
Not to mention no apology to the woman who had her wrist broken and 9 month old baby put in grave peril as a result of the actions of that moron.
Is this prick immune from prosecution?
It'll make no difference, the man is immortal.