Var would have said no pen.
But it wouldn't have changed anything on the pen, as both teams are encroaching.
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Var would have said no pen.
But it wouldn't have changed anything on the pen, as both teams are encroaching.
Rio 
Ole's at the wheel!
Ole's at the wheel!
It affects what happens after when the two Spurs defenders are on top of Auba as he is about to have a tap in.
He was the one who blocked the shot on line, so it did have impact.
Blame him for being poor, forbeing on a colossal wage, for Martial being marginalised etc.
But don't try and blame him for Jose's miserable run continuing.
Scoring a last min goal should never be a bad thing!
But again, you had a player in the box too.
You can't say oh we've missed, can we have a re-take.
Draw in the NLD was the best result for us. A win takes us above Arsenal again and takes us a bit closer to Spurs.
It's a different phase of play, and again, and I'm not sure why people are ignoring this, Arsenal had a player encroaching too. That totally rules out the other guy encroaching.
Not sure what the rule is but if Arsenal miss and Spurs had players in the box it should be retaken regardless if Arsenal had players in the box as well. If Arsenal miss and score from the rebound than it should only matter what the Arsenal players did.
Spurs certainly got lucky with the decisions today.
That was brilliant.Rio
Ole's at the wheel
Youre taking it too literally. My point was he has barely done enough considering what was expected of him at the time. No one in their right mind can now say we got the better end of the deal, infact the 6months last season we got from mkhi also was infinitely better than anything we have got from a guy who was supposed to instantly make us champions league contenders.
True, they both had players encroaching. I'd imagine the pen would have to be retaken in that case.
Yes. We certainly got lucky that Xhaka was given free reign to foul and were so fortunate the referee missed Vertonghen encroaching on what was never a penalty to begin with.
Rio
Ole's at the wheel!
He's great.
It's from the same phase on play, Lloris saved and Iwobi's shot was cleared off line.
Not sure what the exact rule is but looking at video, Vertonghen was the first who entered the box and way ahead of everyone, so obviously it's advantage to Spurs.
That doesn't matter though?
The penalty was missed so Arsenal didn't benefit from it. But Spurs scored from theirs that should not have been given.
Loved Rio laying it on 'em 
seen how far Vertongen is in the box when the pen is taken? then he blocks the shot on the line
edit - haha just seen it at the top of this page
edit - haha just seen it at the top of this page
Yeah this is spot on. Spurs got lucky with Penalty but Arsenal were lucky to have 11 players till last min.
Arsenal got lucky with penalty, Spurs for lucky with Vertonghen entering box before everyone.
How Xhaka wasn't sent off is beyond me, just incompetent ref.
Perfect result tbh, good job spurs.
It's one of those scenarios where it has to be a super obvious one for them to make any decision. And more often than not if both teams are encroaching they play on.
ps lucky? Apart from wrongly having a pen against them in the last min.
Reporter: Good point today, Harry. How do you feel about the game?
Kane: Errrrrrrrm.
Reporter. Thanks, Harry.
Kane: Errrrrrrrm.
Reporter. Thanks, Harry.
Well if the defender is encroaching and then pen is missed it technically should be re-taken, but if an attacker is encroaching, and it's missed, it should be an indirect free kick.
So with both encroaching, I don't know how you can go for one over the other.
They got a chance to score the penalty, they fecked up. Regardless of what Vertonghen was doing.
Neither side benefited from the referee today, he was shite to both sides. Their first goal comes a little bit after Xhaka blatantly fouls Kane and gets away with it, and then he spent the rest of the game hacking players down and escaping punishment.
For those wondering, according to FIFA if players from both sides are encroaching then the penalty gets taken again.
Is that actually the rule? If both teams are encroaching you play on? Genuine question btw
When BT did the interview after the game I understood more from Hugo Lloris than anything Harry said.
Xhaka should have been off after 13 minutes and the penalty wasn't even a penalty. Neither team was really helped by the ref.
You want VAR to intervene here? Because VAR would've called off the penalty anyway, since it wasn't one.
So next season every penalty will be retaken with VAR
In fairness, some of us would give better interviews, but we'd certainly look dummies ON the pitch.
Poch having a right old moan after the game and managing to bring us into it.
In what way?
I want the referee to enforce the rules and make the penalty be retaken.
Can VAR enforce the encroachment rules? I don't think they can, though I might be wrong.
About Pogba still being on the pitch when we beat them.
My old Sunday League team were so bad, we actually 2 full seasons without a win - shit you not