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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) is joined by CEO Duncan Drasdo and Financial Director Andy Green from the Manchester United Supporters Trust for a special episode on all things behind the scenes at Old Trafford including a brief history of MUST and their aims today, views on INEOS and Sir Jim Ratcliffe so far, and the Old Trafford regeneration.
hope not.
Indeed... careful what you wish for, although he was good at landslide victories... but in this case his presence might boost an otherwise flagging leave vote!
Surely the EU27 will force a voted through solution by the 29th as the price for any extension.
It also looks like May could finally be removed from the process as well, maybe?, If there is an emergency debate today and parliament then takes control.
May has had two years to negotiate and 4 months to get her deal through and failed miserably.
It also looks like May could finally be removed from the process as well, maybe?, If there is an emergency debate today and parliament then takes control.
May has had two years to negotiate and 4 months to get her deal through and failed miserably.
When do you find out whether the EU will allow an extension or not?
After May has formally asked for one
Why? That's literally what he's doing in the video.
Ah, makes sense. Any indication of when she'll do that?
Noel Edmonds will announce it on TV.
The EU leaders have a meeting tomorrow to discuss Brexit, amongst other things. Mrs May will have to have submitted her request before the meeting (i.e., now).
Cool, thanks.
She's just ploughing on. She may never get the chance to bring the deal back again to the House, and even if she did it's already been rejected. MPs knew about the "concessions" last week and still said no.
'John Bercow ate my homework.'
something I heard on brexitcast last night... might come into play if true...
Apparently shortening a long extension is pretty easy... but lengthening a short extension is going to be legally very difficult:
So basically 12th or 24th April is a date the Eu have in mind for when the UK must take legal steps to prepare for EU elections if they are to have them
If we dont hold them then at the time we come to try to extend we will have no MEP's and apparently therefore undetr EU rules not be able to extend... basically 30th June would instantly become deal or no deal hard deadline
therefore possible they may either only allow an extension till april saying the deal must be approved by then or the only further extension would be a long one... that said apparently some countries not keen to have uk involved in elections and having a bunch of Ukippers having a say over Eu plans so they are minded to prefer no deal over long extension.
I suspect there is a realistic chance that Mays plan for a 30th june extension may be the 4th option of the EU after (in no specific order) long extension, even shorter extension or no deal.
Apparently shortening a long extension is pretty easy... but lengthening a short extension is going to be legally very difficult:
So basically 12th or 24th April is a date the Eu have in mind for when the UK must take legal steps to prepare for EU elections if they are to have them
If we dont hold them then at the time we come to try to extend we will have no MEP's and apparently therefore undetr EU rules not be able to extend... basically 30th June would instantly become deal or no deal hard deadline
therefore possible they may either only allow an extension till april saying the deal must be approved by then or the only further extension would be a long one... that said apparently some countries not keen to have uk involved in elections and having a bunch of Ukippers having a say over Eu plans so they are minded to prefer no deal over long extension.
I suspect there is a realistic chance that Mays plan for a 30th june extension may be the 4th option of the EU after (in no specific order) long extension, even shorter extension or no deal.
Mays floundering here, hard to watch i think she'll be gone next week.
I do wonder if there may also be a legal challenge about citizen representation if they dont hold the elections... presumably a challenge to the ECJ? (Gina Miller?)
It's as if the second rejection of her deal and Bercow's statement didn't happen. This has been her approach all along, to try to bludgeon everyone into submission whilst keeping her fingers firmly stuck in her ears.
"Dear Donald"
That's how she'll start trade negotiations with the US as well, begging Trump for whatever she can get.
and you know what... our system is so messed up it might actually work!
So which is it? We got Brexiters voting to leave because the EU has changed too much, and you're here stating that its impossible for the EU to change. I suspect you're both talking bollocks here... They've misread the past and you're misreading the future.
And on this, if people end up voting out just because Blair is the face of remain as opposed to Corbyn (for example). We deserve everything we fecking get...
On another note, I cannot stand listening to T May
Did you hear what Verhofstadt was putting forward ? Verhofstadt wasn't proposing some sort new regulations, incredibly stupid and dangerous political ideas shouldn't receive a drab well a politician gotta do what a politician gotta do. When Trump says.......er just anything we don't just go '''A politician arguing for his vision of the future. Shock horror''.
This sort of shite from Verhofstadt should worry anyone who is in any way pro eu.
She's just flat out lying in that letter, she can call a motion to overrule Bercow if she wants. They know this, everyone knows this. Instead she's used it to delay another week.
Vote for the deal or i go seems to be the message.
Labour should throw down a VONC and call for a unity government for the next two month. Then we can finally get the indicative votes and find a way forward.
Vote for the deal or i go seems to be the message.
Labour should throw down a VONC and call for a unity government for the next two month. Then we can finally get the indicative votes and find a way forward.
Her inability to answer questions is astonishing.
Someone raises a question about child poverty and a school closing, and she brings up job figures in response.
Those stats are so misleading as well. Someone on 1 hour of work per week counts as 'employed'.
Someone raises a question about child poverty and a school closing, and she brings up job figures in response.
Those stats are so misleading as well. Someone on 1 hour of work per week counts as 'employed'.
Do our UK residents think a BREXIT would be a great thing?
Dear Donald, I promise it will pass the third time.
Dear Theresa, I don't believe you. Goodbye.
Dear Theresa, I don't believe you. Goodbye.
Got to Nigeria on Monday and just caught up with the last two days news.
Is May really asking for an extension to put forward a deal that has been rejected by parliament, not one but twice?
Is this really happening?
Is May really asking for an extension to put forward a deal that has been rejected by parliament, not one but twice?
Is this really happening?
Have you been reading this thread?
You say twice but that's only formally, she's pulled and delayed the vote numerous times including this week in effect because it wouldn't pass. I'd say they've judged the deal won't pass within a week at least 6 or 7 other occasions.
Our MPs need to grow some balls and stop mincing their words on the issue. They should be shouting her down as a disgrace.
We are all misunderstanding, probably.
No. That is why, I ask the question
They're thrilled and think the government is doing an outstanding job.
Honestly, I didn't find it so outlandish. He favours stronger integration in the EU and says so explicitly. Hard to judge the exact, concrete proposals without hearing of them but his diagnosis is correct: part of the problem of the EU is the amazing number of opt-outs and rebates and such. Whether a dual system of members and associated countries would solve these problems, I have no idea because he didn't elaborate on how these would work.
What did you find so incredibly terrible about it that it's on par with Trump's incoherent babbling?
Another referendum with multiple choice is the best political solution by far.
One can be both happy with the concept of Brexit and unhappy with the political process
Well you joke but this was in my local paper the other week...
https://www.eadt.co.uk/news/felixst...e-brexit-vote-thank-you-theresa-may-1-5936038
I was genuinely gobsmacked at this quote (re:May)
I mean what the actual feck?!?! The Daily Mail has got a lot to answer for.
Hes not being serious. RedCafe is mostly against Brexit and unhappy with the politics and politicians.
As for the country? Feck knows... People's vote please...
Thanks for the answer
Yeah, sure, because you know, the USA and China aren't governed by turkeys, and Brexit has shown the EU to be a incompetent sell serving organization while the UK politicians have been examples of selfless servants of the people.
Or not.