The Saudi Takeover Rumor Thread

[pascell]

Erm that works in every football club. If you ain’t improving the team you are shown the door and if Ole spends a shitload in the summer and we still miles off then he will be shown the door unless we owned by the Glazers then they will just be happy with top four. Which sadly our fans are content with now. We have turned into a more expensive Arsenal.

No, no it doesn't work in every football club, you're way off. So we give Ole one summer, if he doesn't deliver he's sacked? I just don't know what to say to that but good luck to Ed finding a manager who knows he'll be sacked after a season if he fails to meet expectations.

I'm far from content with top 4, I pay good money to watch the team every season but what can Ole do if hes only given a season to turn this team into title winners? Insane logic, you dont build consistent success over a summer I'm afraid, this isn't fifa or football manager.

 

[Adnan]

If there's 1 positive in the Saudis taking over, it'd be Woodward no longer having say in footballing matters. I highly doubt he'd keep that job.

Woodward would be gone for sure i'd imagine..

 

[pascell]

If the project is failing, there's no need to continue.

Would you have kept on with Moyes? With Van Gaal? With Mourinho?

All of them had to go.

The Ole project is failing less than 6 months into its cycle? Blimey, this is getting worse.

No I wouldn't but Ole hasn't had a summer transfer window or a pre season to shape the lads how he wants to play but I guess that's not enough for some in here, we should be beating everyone.

 

[Eddy_JukeZ]

The Ole project is failing less than 6 months into its cycle? Blimey, this is getting worse.

No I wouldn't but Ole hasn't had a summer transfer window or a pre season to shape the lads how he wants to play but I guess that's not enough for some in here, we should be beating everyone.

I never said Ole is failing. I said IF he's failing/has failed, he should be sacked.

He'll have the transfer window and full pre-season to do his work and get the club ready for next season to prove if he's the right man to take us forward.

 

[Siorac]

I wouldnt mind Sauron taking over United if it meant getting rid of the Glazers. They are at the root of everything that's wrong with our club.

If Sauron took over, he'd blow most of the budget on one godlike, absolutely brilliant player who would elevate us above everyone else but we'd be fecked if he ever picked up an injury.

 

[Eddy_JukeZ]

No, no it doesn't work in every football club, you're way off. So we give Ole one summer, if he doesn't deliver he's sacked? I just don't know what to say to that but good luck to Ed finding a manager who knows he'll be sacked after a season if he fails to meet expectations.

I'm far from content with top 4, I pay good money to watch the team every season but what can Ole do if hes only given a season to turn this team into title winners? Insane logic, you dont build consistent success over a summer I'm afraid, this isn't fifa or football manager.

His minimum expectation next season(assuming we spend 200 mil or whatever the club has in mind) will be to reach top 4.

If he failed that, would you still keep him?

 

[Bojan11]

No, no it doesn't work in every football club, you're way off. So we give Ole one summer, if he doesn't deliver he's sacked? I just don't know what to say to that but good luck to Ed finding a manager who knows he'll be sacked after a season if he fails to meet expectations.

I'm far from content with top 4, I pay good money to watch the team every season but what can Ole do if hes only given a season to turn this team into title winners? Insane logic, you dont build consistent success over a summer I'm afraid, this isn't fifa or football manager.

So if he spends a shit load and we finish sixth again next season we should give him another year? Yeah right...

 

[Eddy_JukeZ]

Woodward would be gone for sure i'd imagine..

Probably, so there's a positive.

The fact that he still has full say over our footballing matters is embarrassing.

 

[Hernandez - BFA]

No, no it doesn't work in every football club, you're way off. So we give Ole one summer, if he doesn't deliver he's sacked? I just don't know what to say to that but good luck to Ed finding a manager who knows he'll be sacked after a season if he fails to meet expectations.

I'm far from content with top 4, I pay good money to watch the team every season but what can Ole do if hes only given a season to turn this team into title winners? Insane logic, you dont build consistent success over a summer I'm afraid, this isn't fifa or football manager.

If we show no sign of improvement and no sign of progression - then he’ll need to go. He’s had 4ish months to get to grips with this team. He has ample knowledge now on what needs to be done with the team come Summer. If we end the next season, and we’re still the same non-inspiring team that has less movement than the Terracotta Army statues - then yes, he will need to go.

 

[dove]

No, no it doesn't work in every football club, you're way off. So we give Ole one summer, if he doesn't deliver he's sacked? I just don't know what to say to that but good luck to Ed finding a manager who knows he'll be sacked after a season if he fails to meet expectations.

I'm far from content with top 4, I pay good money to watch the team every season but what can Ole do if hes only given a season to turn this team into title winners? Insane logic, you dont build consistent success over a summer I'm afraid, this isn't fifa or football manager.

Hm, yes? Don't you think it should be like that? I don't think anyone here expects us to win the title next season but if we are still fighting a losing battle for TOP 4 at this time next season, Ole should be sacked as it means we have not improved in 1.5 years.

 

[Bubz27]

No.

Yes it does, hence they've been a successful footballing team over the last 6 years.

Maybe you're laughing because you think I'm talking about their activities back home. I'm not. I'm talking about the things they do in relation to Man City football club.

Like their fantastic training facilities, expanding their stadium, buying partner clubs around the world, planning for the future, building a team (on the pitch and behind the scenes) of Guardiolas preference before he even joined.

I struggle to think of one decision our board has made in the last 6 years that made me think yes that's a good decision for the future of thethe football club. Sacking a manager doesn't count as they made that stupid decision in the first place.

 

[NoLogo]

The Glazers have zero sporting ambition and completely lack any sort of future vision for the club. They are here to make money and couldn't care if we win trophies or not. With them it is financial success first and sporting success a distant second.

Considering that they are the ones who put Woodward in charge of this club I have to agree. They aren't healthy for the club either.

 

[Jacob]

Doubt Glazers only intention is profits, there are more lucrative businesses to go into for that. I just think they're clueless as to how to run a well-respected club with ambitions. I should say, clueless as to how to recruit for management that runs the club.

 

[Trizy]

I dont want Saudis anywhere near the club, unfortunately I feel like they will end up buying United. Which is sad because they wont give a toss if Ole is a club legend, as soon as he fails to meet expectations, he'll be shown the door.

And whats wrong with that? City, Madrid, Barcelona have all won major titles by replacing managers often. This is modern football. I want results, I want my team to win. Romance is a fairy tale when coming to appointments.

 

[Skills]

I dont want Saudis anywhere near the club, unfortunately I feel like they will end up buying United. Which is sad because they wont give a toss if Ole is a club legend, as soon as he fails to meet expectations, he'll be shown the door.

 

[dove]

I dont want Saudis anywhere near the club, unfortunately I feel like they will end up buying United. Which is sad because they wont give a toss if Ole is a club legend, as soon as he fails to meet expectations, he'll be shown the door.

Shocking, I know. Showing the door to someone who is failing to meet expectations is just unthinkable.

 

[Bojan11]

If he relegates us it’s fine as he’s a club legend.

 

[Adnan]

The Saudi's would give Ole all the money he could spend under FFP. And they'd expect at least a championship challenge in his first full season i'd imagine.

 

[Cal?]

I dont want Saudis anywhere near the club, unfortunately I feel like they will end up buying United. Which is sad because they wont give a toss if Ole is a club legend, as soon as he fails to meet expectations, he'll be shown the door.

What else do you expect? Keep him on despite failing to meet expectations?

 

[Ban]

All hail Saudis, our saviours!

 

[Iowred]

Is this really going to happen? For united to move forwards and challenge at the top I feel a takeover is a must. Between the Glazers & Woodward they have sadly taken the club along way backwards on the pitch and they either have no clue or have no interest in putting us back on top aslong as the commercial money keeps rolling in.

A Saudi takeover would be the fresh start this club needs. Woodward would be restricted to doing what he does best in signing up commercial deals and we would have a true football man at the top who can go and buy the best young talent around. With united then back on top we could give our youngsters the freedom to develop and push to play in the 1st team.

A takeover would then allow us to, and this hurts, have a football model similar to cities who now have a few very good young players coming through to compliment the world class players in their team. We could afford to re-vamp OT & make our facilities the best in the world.

 

[Himannv]

I wouldnt mind Sauron taking over United if it meant getting rid of the Glazers. They are at the root of everything that's wrong with our club.

One football to rule them all?

 

[Cloud7]

I dont want Saudis anywhere near the club, unfortunately I feel like they will end up buying United. Which is sad because they wont give a toss if Ole is a club legend, as soon as he fails to meet expectations, he'll be shown the door.

I want the Saudis as far away from United as possible, but just to be clear, whether our owners are the Saudis, the Glazers or Wizard Kelly, any manager who fails to meet expectations should be shown the door, club legend or not.

 

[Adnan]

Is this really going to happen? For united to move forwards and challenge at the top I feel a takeover is a must. Between the Glazers & Woodward they have sadly taken the club along way backwards on the pitch and they either have no clue or have no interest in putting us back on top aslong as the commercial money keeps rolling in.

A Saudi takeover would be the fresh start this club needs. Woodward would be restricted to doing what he does best in signing up commercial deals and we would have a true football man at the top who can go and buy the best young talent around. With united then back on top we could give our youngsters the freedom to develop and push to play in the 1st team.

A takeover would then allow us to, and this hurts, have a football model similar to cities who now have a few very good young players coming through to compliment the world class players in their team. We could afford to re-vamp OT & make our facilities the best in the world.

Some very good sources are saying the Saudi's are in negotiations with the Glazers about buying the club. Even a French journo with a good track record has said a offer has been rejected but the discussions are from over.

 

[Iowred]

Some very good sources are saying the Saudi's are in negotiations with the Glazers about buying the club. Even a French journo with a good track record has said a offer has been rejected but the discussions are from over.

What sources? Does it/they mention how far from an agreement they are. Hopefully before the summer so we can spend a shit load on a quick fix whilst developing a quality long term plan

 

[lukepowell1988]

One football to rule them all?

One football to find them?

 

[Adnan]

What sources? Does it/they mention how far from an agreement they are. Hopefully before the summer so we can spend a shit load on a quick fix whilst developing a quality long term plan

Read my previous posts in this thread..

 

[Infra-red]

Not this again. Being owned by the Saudis would be absolutely horrendous.

 

[Iowred]

Read my previous posts in this thread..

Sorry my bad will scout through. My scepticism towards this happening is the fact that if the Saudis want united why wouldn’t they just pay whatever the asking price is seeing as they have X amount of billions and if they are haggling over possibly millions surely this is loose change to this lot.

 

[passing-wind]

I dont want Saudis anywhere near the club, unfortunately I feel like they will end up buying United. Which is sad because they wont give a toss if Ole is a club legend, as soon as he fails to meet expectations, he'll be shown the door.

as they should, ole being a club legend means absolutely nothing, if he's incapable of taking the team forward he'll be sacked irrespective of the Glazer's or Saudis being in charge.

 

[Roboc7]

Glazers won’t sell yet they are greedy and won’t leave until they are 100% satisfied they have milked every penny. I expect will be another 5 years or so before they cash in.

Can’t see the Saudi’s being allowed to buy, everyone will have an opinion and it would end up being blocked.

 

[Infra-red]

If there's 1 positive in the Saudis taking over, it'd be Woodward no longer having say in footballing matters. I highly doubt he'd keep that job.

... or his head.

 

[Adnan]

Sorry my bad will scout through. My scepticism towards this happening is the fact that if the Saudis want united why wouldn’t they just pay whatever the asking price is seeing as they have X amount of billions and if they are haggling over possibly millions surely this is loose change to this lot.

I think alot of things will need to be looked into by both parties before they agree on a price i'd imagine. Richard Arnold has been going back and forth to Saudi for many months now if Neil Custis is to be believed and it seems like we're are now at the negotiating table with 6 Glazer siblings wanting a slice of their share if Barney and Romain Molina are to be believed.

 

[andyish]

Ethically abhorrent .... but where do you draw the line on ethics?

Anyone with enough £££ to buy a top 6 premier league team is going to have skeletons in the closet!

 

[Flying high]

As much as I want the glazers gone, being owned by the corrupt and morally bankrupt Saudis would be far worse.

If we can remove the leeches sucking our club dry, we can compete without a benefactor.

 

[TakeMeHome]

MBS in

 

[red thru&thru]

I really don't care who owns us...if we don't get the correct people in to sort out our football, we'll still be in the same position.

A positive about the Saudis would be, it'd less about the money making and more about football prestige Making us football greats again with the very best facilities.

We need to get Edwin van der Sar in. Look at the job he's done at Ajax and he's very in tune with the marketing side of football But firstly for him, it would be about the football.

 

[pauldyson1uk]

do not want this happening , we would become everything we hate about , City , Chelsea and any other team build with oil money.

 

[Zlatattack]

Why are we so desperate for billionaire owners? People do realize we make more money than any other club in the world we could easily compete in the transfer market if we had competent people in charge of building a squad and hiring the right manager/head coach for it but we have absolutely no Plan on how to operate a the football side of a modern football club and in the end the bug has to stop with our CEO who needs to work out a viable strategy. If he is incapable of that the board needs to show some balls and fire this incompetent failure of a CEO.

Your right, we could compete on our own if we had competent management at the top of the club. We don't. The only way I see what changing, is with new ownership.

I just can’t see it. United are among the top three, if not the most wealthiest clubs in world football. It would take a gargantuan bid for the Glazers to even consider selling, somewhere north of £3.5bn, and even then the spending will only start as the squad needs a huge overhaul to get to the pinnacle of English and European football again.

Are United that attractive of a proposition that someone/a group can justify spunking something in the region of £4.5bn all-in over the next five years?

For them it's about prestige as well. All their rich cousins have European football clubs, they want one too - one better than the Qataris especially, to put them in their place.

If Sauron took over, he'd blow most of the budget on one godlike, absolutely brilliant player who would elevate us above everyone else but we'd be fecked if he ever picked up an injury.

I'd love for us to sign Messi.

Shocking, I know. Showing the door to someone who is failing to meet expectations is just unthinkable.

It's not the Manchester United way. We wait to give you a testimonial before we show you the door.

do not want this happening , we would become everything we hate about , City , Chelsea and any other team build with oil money.

Not really. Those clubs were nothing before the oil money. For Manchester United it wouldn't be the oil money that funds or builds the club, we could manage pretty much on our own money. The important thing would be senior management at the club with real ambition, with a focus on silverware ahead of merchandise.

 

[Grande]

If Sauron took over, he'd blow most of the budget on one godlike, absolutely brilliant player who would elevate us above everyone else but we'd be fecked if he ever picked up an injury.

If Sauron took over, we’d become evil, and a bit later we’d be annihilated by a team of dwarfs and hobbits.

Ir maybe this already happened?