Champions League Semi Finals (30th April - 8th May)

RobinLFC said:
Tottenham still very much in this, I can easily see them scoring in Amsterdam with Son up front.
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Pool and Spurs fans still desperately praying for a Liverpool vs Spurs final. The Spurs were slapped tonight and Liverpool is about to enter the wolf's den.

But of course we will have to hear "We'll beat them at Anfield" and "We'll beat them at Amsterdam" (yeah, right).
 
SquishyMcSquish said:
Jesus christ.

We had more shots and genuine chances that second half than they did. We struggled to create any genuine opportunities because we had no decent strikers on the pitch, how much fecking clearer can that be for you?

You're not going to run a team ragged with Llorente leading the line. Son will be an entirely different story and I saw a backline that can be got at with a genuine quality striker in and around the box, why are you so insistent on denying that?

We put in a terrible performance tonight (eriksen/alli/trippier/rose particularly disappointing) and still managed to have a lot of control in the second half and got in to some good positions, the quality was just missing. All I've said is that if we can change that round and if Son can put in a Cityesque performance where he clutches for us, we're still in the tie.
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Genuine chances? Think we might have watched a different game. Have you troubled Onana at all?
 
Casanova85 said:
Pool and Spurs fans still desperately praying for a Liverpool vs Spurs final. The Spurs were slapped tonight and Liverpool is about to enter the wolf's den.

But of course we will have to hear "We'll beat them at Anfield" and "We'll beat them at Amsterdam" (yeah, right).
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Salty tears just dripping down your face.
 
SquishyMcSquish said:
They're a dirty team as well. Multiple yellow cards tonight and Blind 100% should have got one but somehow avoided it despite making 3-4 fouls.
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Wasn't it you once said it was perfectly fine for an opposition side to target a player carrying an injury?
 
I completely agree with @SquishyMcSquish. Ajax are overrated and this game shows why. Ajax only lucked out when they dominated both the Champions League holders and the Italian champions over 2 legs. They also only schooled Spurs for half of the match and could only contain them and restrict them to no clear chances in the second half. Very overrated. Spurs' name on the trophy me thinks.
 
charlenefan said:
I'm not denying on paper you'll be a bigger threat with Son, what I take exception with is your inability to admit you were outplayed tonight and even in the second half when Ajax in your words were poor to average still played better football and had better chances than Spurs

Calling them overrated and poor to average is just you being bitter, they were a class above Spurs tonight
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We were outplayed in the first half. I've said they wiped the floor with us in that half twice now.

Second half we were better than them, but didn't have the quality on the field to take advantage of that. Too many missing players up front led to none of our usual attacking fluidity and Llorente simply wasn't getting in the box enough to be a threat, it was easy to defend against. Add to that poor performances from Alli and Eriksen and yes, you have a lack of chance creation despite seizing control of the game.

I think they're overrated by some posters on here, yes. They're clearly a very good team but we can beat them but tonight simply lacked the tools to do so. I never said they were poor or average as a side, never. Second half I think they retreated in to their shell and we should have scored, that's all.

I straight up disagree they played better football than us in the second half. They had that one move which led to the Neres' miss but we were always going to over-commit looking for a goal.
 
Hoof The Ball said:
Let's state facts. It was Spurs and not Ajax who forced the long ball game. When Spurs realised they couldn't outplay Ajax and Vertonghen came off they played shitehouse tactics with Alli, Llorente, Sissoko, and all the other big guys and just lumped it up to them in order to dominate the game physically. To their credit, it did nullify Ajax and stop them playing their game, but it forced them to play ping pong football in return.
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Exactly, Spurs simply switched to route one football in the second half and caused chaos across the pitch. I’m sorry but no amount of Sons is going to help Spurs to reach the final, Ajax are just much better at football than Spurs.
 
P-Ro said:
I completely agree with @SquishyMcSquish. Ajax are overrated and this game shows why. Ajax only lucked out when they dominated both the Champions League holders and the Italian champions over 2 legs. They also only schooled Spurs for half of the match and could only contain them and restrict them to no clear chances in the second half. Very overrated. Spurs' name on the trophy me thinks.
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:lol:
 
GlastonSpur said:
You got lucky against PSG with VAR, but then got dumped out 4 - 0 next round anyhow. At least Spurs are still in the CL, with still a chance of reaching the final.

You'll likely have plenty of opportunities for personal development next season ... away to some team in Khasakstan on a Thursday evening.
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:lol:

That's the best you've got? Your at least Spurs are still in it is going to be pretty useless come next week

Oh and as for luck with VAR remind me how you got into the SF? Ah yeah VAR :lol:
 
I never felt like Spurs were gonna score. Yes, they were much better than in the 1st half but Ajax didn't look as troubled as some posters say. Their defending looked relatively comfortable.
 
SquishyMcSquish said:
They're a dirty team as well. Multiple yellow cards tonight and Blind 100% should have got one but somehow avoided it despite making 3-4 fouls.
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The irony of Spurs fan calling other team dirty. You went route 1 and played hoofball because they were passing you off the pitch. You also make your own share of rough challenges.
 
charlenefan said:
Wasn't it you once said it was perfectly fine for an opposition side to target a player carrying an injury?
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Nope. I said that it happens and wasn't a shock that Owen suggested he would do it.

But you know, keep misquoting, because that's great fun.
 
Basically what happened today is Ajax fully outplayed them and Spurs had to switch to a more dirty/messy style to break up their flow and then try to create something from set pieces because they couldnt lay a glove on them in open play.

Extremely hampered by a lack of Son/Kane though. Wouldnt blame anyone else missing though. Without Son they have no pace or dynamism in attack, while just Kane can at least do some thing on his own to get on the end of chances.

2nd leg will be different for Spurs with Son, but I'd say they only have a tiny chance of progression. Lost and got outplayed at home and now have to go into the 2nd leg with a deficit away to a better footballing side. Tough ask, not impossible. My guess is a 2-1 Ajax win in the 2nd leg to win 3-1 overall.
 
GlastonSpur said:
You got lucky against PSG with VAR, but then got dumped out 4 - 0 next round anyhow. At least Spurs are still in the CL, with still a chance of reaching the final.

You'll likely have plenty of opportunities for personal development next season ... away to some team in Khasakstan on a Thursday evening.
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How is that new stadium coming along? Will it be your biggest signing this Summer as well?
 
SquishyMcSquish said:
Oh look, me just saying that I wasn't surprised by Owen's comments and that the idea a team might go with that tactic should shock nobody.

Why this is relevant to me stating Ajax were dirty tonight (which they were, hence the yellows) I really don't know.
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You both made the same amount of fouls. But keep crying.
 
BlueHaze said:
@SquishyMcSquish You are wrong on that one mate, Ajax is far from "overrated" They went past the likes of fecking Madrid and Juve, they deserve big credit for that and from the looks of it they will go past you lot as well even though I definitely havn't counted you out but you have a tough task ahead.
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It's pointless. Some people won't give Ajax the credit they deserve.

After the victory at Bernabeu it was just Real being terrible this season (not wrong...). Following the QF against Juventus Allegri was clueless, the Italians didn't have a proper midfield, Chiellini was injured.
Now Spurs is missing Son + Kane, Sissoko didn't start and Ajax had more rest.
 
bosnian_red said:
Basically what happened today is Ajax fully outplayed them and Spurs had to switch to a more dirty/messy style to break up their flow and then try to create something from set pieces because they couldnt lay a glove on them in open play.

Extremely hampered by a lack of Son/Kane though. Wouldnt blame anyone else missing though. Without Son they have no pace or dynamism in attack, while just Kane can at least do some thing on his own to get on the end of chances.

2nd leg will be different for Spurs with Son, but I'd say they only have a tiny chance of progression. Lost and got outplayed at home and now have to go into the 2nd leg with a deficit away to a better footballing side. Tough ask, not impossible. My guess is a 2-1 Ajax win in the 2nd leg to win 3-1 overall.
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Very good and unbiased assessment of the game.
 
SquishyMcSquish said:
Oh look, me just saying that I wasn't surprised by Owen's comments and that the idea a team might go with that tactic should shock nobody.

Why this is relevant to me stating Ajax were dirty tonight (which they were, hence the yellows) I really don't know.
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https://www.redcafe.net/threads/mic...rashford’s-ankle”.445314/page-6#post-23751690

Yeah it's pretty clear you're perfectly happy with players trying to injury others so to start whining about Ajax being dirty because they were doing tactical fouls is hypocrisy
 
Spurs are that side you don't mind if they win generally, but then you read the drivel from their fans on here and it just makes you root against them.
 
SquishyMcSquish said:
They are.

People creamed over them all game when really they just had an explosive 30 minutes where yeah, they were incredible. After that they were average to poor and we should have scored at least one from a set piece.

They're a good, energetic side but whoever gets them in the final (if they progress vs us) will win comfortable. Had we had more firepower tonight I think it's a totally different game.

They took advantage of our missing players and the tactical error Poch made by starting with 3atb. Soon as we shifted and Sissoko came on we had the better of proceedings but were unable to do feck all because Llorente/Lucas is the least threatening attacking duo ever.
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Just like I told you some days ago when we were discussing Klopp, you just look too bitter and jealous other teams and managers are getting more credit than yours even though they deserve it.
 
Ajax could gave easily won 3-0.

Spurs were outclassed.

Like every PL team has been since 2008 at the later stages..
 
Schneckerl said:
It's pointless. Some people won't give Ajax the credit they deserve.

After the victory at Bernabeu it was just Real being terrible this season (not wrong...). Following the QF against Juventus Allegri was clueless, the Italians didn't have a proper midfield, Chiellini was injured.
Now Spurs is missing Son + Kane, Sissoko didn't start and Ajax had more rest.
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Yeah I don't get it, what's with all the bitterness? Why are some not able to give a team credit where it's due.. They are a hard working team full of amazing young talents and they have gotten past two behemoths in the sport. If you can't give them credit after that then it really is pointless as you said.
 
InLevyITrust said:
feck this thread has became so toxic.
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How?

Your pal was being bitter and getting called out of it. Ajax are a dirty overrated team according to him. Rather than focusing on what Spurs didn’t do he decides the insult the opposition.
 
Bojan11 said:
How?

Your pal was being bitter and getting called out of it. Ajax are a dirty overrated team according to him. Rather than focusing on what Spurs didn’t do he decides the insult the opposition.
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The irony honestly couldn't be higher considering Tottenham are arguably the dirtiest 'top team' in Europe nowadays.
 
bosnian_red said:
Basically what happened today is Ajax fully outplayed them
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I think Spurs looked very tired, and were, as Eriksen said, ball watching in the first half. Second half Spurs resembled their normal selves and were the better side, but Llorente without Son/Kane is a major downgrade. Very similar as to when Sturridge plays for Liverpool.
 
Ajax a class above Spurs tonight. Can't see Spurs progressing, their only hope is outscoring Ajax and even with Son I doubt that has much chance of happening. After I watched the second half of Ajax away at Juventus I realised that this side is more than capable of winning the tournament and beating anyone. Not sure what the bitter comments from Spurs fans are about, nothing to suggest Ajax are a dirty side and at no point in the second half did Ajax look rattled. Spurs only real openings came from set pieces and their physicality is what has kept them in this tie.
 
crossy1686 said:
Ajax's work ate is phenomenal. We're a fecking embarrassment by comparison.
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Workrate is hardly their standing out feature. Theyre extremly technical starting from the keeper and actually like to have to have the ball in their feet and play with it instead of treating it like hot potato. Nobody has an answer yet for their quick triangles passing at pace that completely dissects the defense.
 
charlenefan said:
https://www.redcafe.net/threads/michael-owen’s-2nd-half-strategy-for-liverpool-“kick-rashford’s-ankle”.445314/page-6#post-23751690

Yeah it's pretty clear you're perfectly happy with players trying to injury others so to start whining about Ajax being dirty because they were doing tactical fouls is hypocrisy
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Literally all I said is that they were dirty tonight, but that won't get mentioned by the people who go out of their way to wind up the Spurs fans on here.

They're entitled to play however they want, it was nothing more than something I noted.

Literally even suggesting anything bad about Ajax (they're overrated by the people on here who make out they're prime barca when they played 30 exceptional minutes of football out of the 90) gets you jumped on, it's actually pathetic. They had a great game but a lot of their success TONIGHT (i'm not talking about their performances vs juve or madrid) were down to our own failures and lack of quality in certain areas.

I don't think Ajax were at all good in the second half, and had we had some of our better players on the field and had more composure in the final third, we could be going to Ajax with a different result.
 
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