Television Game of Thrones (TV) • The watch has ended

Good point. I just didn't feel the tragedy in his fate because I didn't feel either the chemistry between him and Dany nor any real point to his going to the Wall at the end as a penance.
He gone beyond the wall. He said to Tormund that that was where he would be happiest. I think Bran has sent him where he will be happy and fooled the Unsullied into believing he was being punished. They just couldn't tell Jon because he'd have given the game away.
 
Finally got to watch the finale and I must say I was a bit surprised. Bran? Really? And that with a North not belonging to the Seven Kingdoms? Even with Tyrion's reasoning, it's still not enough of an explanation.

I'm sure that with George Martin's writing it would all make a whole lot more sense and be better accomplished. I look forward to reading it if he ever comes that far.

Disappointing finale. That scene with the King's council felt like somelight entertainment played for laughs. Think of the acting performances and gravitas you've had on that table (Tywin Lannister, Ollena Tyrrel, Ned Stark etc). Just having some "friendly" faces on the table didn't sit well with me.

What I did like was the Stark children surviving. After their harrowing trials of the first couple of seasons, it was good to see Ned's kids land on their feet. Even though in some of the cases it was a bit contrived.
 
It really is a colossal shame.

I implore anybody who hasn't to go back and watch scenes from the earlier seasons, particularly some involving some of the elder statesmen in the cast (charles dance in particular) and quite honestly if you put it side by side to episodes from S8 you would feel like you were watching an entirely different show. Scenes between Tyrion and Oberyn, Jaime and Brienne, Tywin and Arya are simply breathtaking television. I've decided to start from the beginning personally but stop at S7 to try and blow away the feelings of disappointment that *this* is what the ending is.

The final couple of seasons got the only things the early ones lacked - the big set pieces and hollywood effects, but the show completely lost its heart along the way, and lost what really made it the most enjoyable show on television, a fantastic combination of excellent writing and stunning acting performances backed up by genuinely good dialogue.

S7/S8 weren't bad really, not by normal television standards, and a lot of aspects were very impressive. But you can't expect people not to complain when a shows best features suddenly becomes its weakest. The people who just watched for the tits and dragons are obviously still going to be satisfied, but I really don't think that's why a majority of people were dragged in by Game of Thrones.
Couldn't agree more. That was Game of Thrones for me. Those scenes were simply fantastic. Just dialogue but had you on the edge of your seat; wondering if he sussed quite who she was.
On the delayed train home today managed to watch the first part of this. Great character and an even better actor.
 
Just realised that last scene from Varys before being killed turned out to be completely useless and a waste of 5 minutes.
 
How the feck does Sansa know that Bran can't father children? Is she the Cersei to his Jaime?
 
I’ve defended it a lot in here because I felt it was daft to write it off before it was finished.


feck me that was absolutely terrible.

It was just so disjointed. I couldn’t believe it that he killed her and then other than Drogon there was no real reaction to it in the early aftermath. It just cut forward to the council scene and was like “oh that’s it, they all know and it’s ok?”


It would have made much more sense if they rolled the credits as Drogon flew off with Dany and the rest of it was just that typical “after the credits bonus scenes”.


In fact it would have been better still if they went all Line of Duty with the ending and just had a few cut scenes with white captions underneath explaining what happened next.
 
Just realised that last scene from Varys before being killed turned out to be completely useless and a waste of 5 minutes.

That's part of my whole annoyance with Jon's character. The importance of his true lineage felt like it was just to set up conflict with Dany, it didn't really develop beyond that.
 
Stolen from Reddit. Arya's supernatural perception:

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You are posting in the GoT thread which was amazing for the first few episodes
Only the last couple of seasons, first six were good, first 4 were Top notch. Even the 7th season wasn't so bad compared to this piece of garbage.
It sucked badly because there was no source material. WOT series books are complete.
 
See, this stuff. They're more concerned with Arya getting a menacing cool line when she should've been pleading with Jon in hushed tones after what she witnessed first-hand "Look around you, Jon. You know what she is, this won't be the last city to burn etc" would be much more impactful.

There was no time for full sentences.


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So is it worth to start watching this? I never got around to watch it, maybe i should look into this

For sure. But stop watching after season 6.
 
I know it was hinted at in the books but I think making John a Targaryen was a nightmare decision.

Having Cersie destroy a whole fecking city was up there.

They just about got away with that finale I thought. The rest of the season ducked it up and any scene this year with Bronn.
 
Some of the memes floating around are hilarious.

Jesus, I was anticipating a pretty mediocre ending because the hype and expectation was just too high but damn they completely fecked it up.

The Daenerys ending was so badly done and then the cut to the council meeting weeks later? almost laughable.

They should have scrapped an earlier episode and had a full episode after the slaughter of Kings Landing to see the reactions and how 'crazy' Daenerys acted but it felt like 5 minutes worth of screen time after she burned the city down she was killed off.
 
Holy shit, I can post now here after many years.

Actually, I don't think that it was that bad. The last episode was terrible, so this episode was constrained on what can they do.
 
I’ve defended it a lot in here because I felt it was daft to write it off before it was finished.


feck me that was absolutely terrible.

It was just so disjointed. I couldn’t believe it that he killed her and then other than Drogon there was no real reaction to it in the early aftermath. It just cut forward to the council scene and was like “oh that’s it, they all know and it’s ok?”


It would have made much more sense if they rolled the credits as Drogon flew off with Dany and the rest of it was just that typical “after the credits bonus scenes”.


In fact it would have been better still if they went all Line of Duty with the ending and just had a few cut scenes with white captions underneath explaining what happened next.
I was hoping for Jamie surviving the rubble and somehow sneaked in the throne room, watching the destruction of Kings landing on his way up and stabbing Danny from behind. That would have been perfect.

There were so many ways to do it, it is amazing how they chose the worst.

Starks, how pathetic of them to keep telling Jon Snow he is the real heir to the Iron Throne, pushed him to proclaim it, made him murder Danny and yet none spoke his name in the Dragon Pit.

I am having very hard time try to calm myself...
 
Why on earth is Bronn master of coin? Surely he should be master of war? I mean he’s one of the most experienced, battle hardened men left in Westeros and they made him master of coin? Daft cnuts.

No chance to crack a brothel joke if he's not.
 
Why on earth is Bronn master of coin? Surely he should be master of war? I mean he’s one of the most experienced, battle hardened men left in Westeros and they made him master of coin? Daft cnuts.
Lord of The Reach, the richest Kingdom so makes sense for him to be master of coin just like that Tyrell dipshit was. He shouldn't have Highgarden in the first place, though.
 
How the feck does Sansa know that Bran can't father children? Is she the Cersei to his Jaime?
Well first it's his sister she'd know, second he's paralysed from the waist down, and third the man clearly isn't interested in fanny.... It's not a stretch to assume he probably won't have a child.
 
I know it was hinted at in the books but I think making John a Targaryen was a nightmare decision.

Having Cersie destroy a whole fecking city was up there.

They just about got away with that finale I thought. The rest of the season ducked it up and any scene this year with Bronn.

What city? She destroyed a church full of maniacs.
 
I am 808 pages late to the party and i presume that it was all mentioned here but i must say it all.
1) Awful ending and awful season with dozens plot holes
2) When they pick new king, nobody said; "Hey, Jon has claim to be the king. When unsullied go, we will make him a king"
3) How many bloody Dothraki came with Dany? Jamie once said 100k, but no way that is the right number. She had 1000 ships. And on one Dothraki goes one horse. My guess is 30k? Maybe 40k max
4) Biggest irony in the show is that Daenerys could in first episode in season 7 take KL with 3 dragons and her full army.
5) D&D ruined best tv show ever. If they take best movie saga ever( Star wars) they will ruin that too.

That is it. I just wanted to say all that. If somebody have something to say about Dothraki number, please do. :) . Now i will start reading these 808 pages:lol:
 
It is always summer under the sea. The merwives wear nennymoans in their hair and weave gowns of silver seaweed. I know. I know…
 
They could have easily made it Jon's decision to reject the throne instead opting to let the lords decide, which would have maintained his legacy as the literal song of Ice and fire, but I guess they needed Tyrion to be the smart one and recommend it. Then he fecked it up by suggesting Bran, but there you go. We live in a world where people voted for Trump and May.
 
I’ve not really criticised the show so far and just tried to enjoy it. But that final episode was so disappointing. I don’t necessarily mind what happened to most of the individual characters but how they got there was pretty crap and could have been done so much better. I could see what they were trying to do but some really crap scenes and clunky dialogue were evident throughout.
It's like a journey, but towards the end they decided to cut it down to the stops along the way.
 
My god. That was.. Dont know what to say. First half was a bit ok. Scenes were great tbh but Danny's speech was so silly. She speaking about freeing all people after she razed King's Landing was.. Well to be expected from a woman who went batshit crazy. Murder scene was.. Jon just went there armed and proceeded to kill her without a single Unsullied there and Drogon? He didnt kill Jon cause he's a Targaryen or what?
Like how Drogon himself realized on the spot Iron throne is the source of all evel and wars in Seven kingdoms so he burned it.
Danny ending like that, a bit meh, after all she's been through. Her getting killed so easily is a big let down. One moment she's giving a big speech the other she gets killed while prophecing love to Jon.
Also I still laugh at how many of Unsullied and Dothraki are alive after the battle for Winterfell. Maybe they all came after that?

Council.. What to say.. Unsullied kept Jon Snow as a prisoner for few weeks instead of killing him? Same with Tyrion? And it was what, ok you killed Danny, we will keep you locked for some short time. Or it was a bit longer.
And why would Unsullied kept them after Danny was killed. They're sellswords and Grey Worm was deciding if they can decide on the king. Not to mention Jon had to go to Night watch cause Grey Worm insisted. I mean what's that about? Why would he do it, why would Grey Worm decide on that. Silly.
I like how in that council there were 2, 3 guys I dont have a clue who are they. Who's that Dorne guy who just smiled a lot, and 2 other guy with beard I think, what houses are they?
Davos saying Unsullied should populate a land and start a new house. What? Were the writers stoned while writing this stuff?
Bran as a king. That was just lazy. Just as his - Why do you think I went all this was - or what was it. All that story for him to become a king and it seems he's not even up for it.
And Sansa saying North will be indepentent. So what's up with that, North gained independence in that moment or she said it like, we're not gonna be messed with?

Small council in the end, ok they wanted it to end with all them smiling and having fun but it was a bit sleezy. Bronn as a Master of Coin.. :lol:

Starks going all on their separate ways was ok I guess, show started with Starks and ended with them if you still consider Jon a Stark and he basically still is, although of course not by blood.
Where are him and Free folk going now there are no White walkers?

All in all it was all so rushed, just like someone said, oh gosh we have just half an hour left, lets put everything there and tie lose ends. It was like an ending of LOTR part 3 where they were saying goodby to each other for half an hour it seemed. Ok we get it.
 
What did they spend the extra year doing? It's like they couldn't wait for the series to be over so just rushed the last episode in 10 minutes. Dany is killed after her long journey to become Queen and there's barely any reaction to it.
 
It's like a journey, but towards the end they decided to cut it down to the stops along the way.
The last two seasons have had all the major moments you'd expect in a season but without the build ups, which would have also given them more time to set situations up properly. Imagine these seasons with these moments but written more naturally. feck man...
 
Thinking about it today, it wasn't as bad as I initially thought it was last night, when the words "Dexter" and "lumberjack" were leaping to mind.

I already liked everything up until the point the dragon fecked off. Now the final ending for the different characters is sitting better with me too. It's a good end to their individual stories, it just wasn't a particularly dramatic one. Really it was the summit and council scenes that screwed the episode for me though.

Where yesterday I thought the ending was straight up terrible, now I think the same basic endpoints could have been fine if they'd executed it better. Which is probably my complaint for the season as a whole really. I liked pretty much all the broad beats and set pieces but the way the writers carried us from one to the other was, well.....
 
I'm on minute 53 and it's fecking rubbish :lol::lol::lol: I had to pause because I couldn't believe how they've butchered it.
I thought episode 3 was bad, episode 5 worse but this finale takes the cake :wenger:
 
What did they spend the extra year doing? It's like they couldn't wait for the series to be over so just rushed the last episode in 10 minutes. Dany is killed after her long journey to become Queen and there's barely any reaction to it.
I genuinely hope they lose Star Wars because of this. Stranger things have happened.