Television Game of Thrones (TV) • The watch has ended

RedSky said:
They really should have made it more obvious if Jon had become a Wildling by having him wear their clothing. It's just too ambiguous otherwise and having him be the Commander of the Nights Watch would be such a feckin shit end to his character.
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Well it gave me a big laugh at least.

Just think about it:

- His Arc started with the fecking Nightswatch. Everyone was hoping that he will someday interfere somehow in the Iron Trone games representing the Starks against the Lannisters after beheading Ned, the red wedding etc.

- Meanwhile he gets involved with the biggest threat: The Wights. Gets bigger and bigger. Becomes the Lord Commander. Unites the Wildlings and the Watch.

- He fecking died as the Lord Commander, just to get resurrected so he could finally become part of the Westeros storyline.

- He wins the battle of the Bastards, avenged the red wedding, becomes the King in the North (biggest moment in the whole series for me personally)

- He finally meets the other main protagonist Danaerys, convinces her to march/fly north, falls in love with her, fecks her, kneels.

- Everyone knew that he has a huge destiny after Ned told him that he would tell him about his mother if they meet again. And it was clear once we learned about her: His destiny was the Iron Throne.


All that build up.

He went all the way.

Just to get banished to the fecking Nightswatch, AGAIN! :lol: :lol: :lol:

I really couldn't stop to laugh when Tyrion told him about it. It would be even more funny if it wasn't that sad.
 
Berbaclass said:
Why didn't Bran just facking pardon Jon. You know with him being king and all...
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What if Jon didn't want to be pardoned? He had his best time north of the wall. Think he's looking forward to spending time with Tormund, Ghost and fecking wild chicks.
 
Andycoleno9 said:
Because 2000 unsullied will hear that and sail back across the sea and burn Westeros. :lol::lol:
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Tbf it would be entirley in Jon's character to stupidly and pointlessly stick to a vow to rejoin the NW even when there's no actual reason to. Especially as he's stupidly and pointlessly feeling guilty for killing Dany when there's no actual reason to too.
 
Samid said:
What if Jon didn't want to be pardoned? He had his best time north of the wall. Think he's looking forward to spending time with Tormund, Ghost and fecking wild chicks.
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Didn't seem to be that many wildlings left, let alone ones who look like Rose Leslie.

Most of them probably have wildling husbands too. Poor Jon.
 
shahzadi said:
I was hoping for Jamie surviving the rubble and somehow sneaked in the throne room, watching the destruction of Kings landing on his way up and stabbing Danny from behind. That would have been perfect.

There were so many ways to do it, it is amazing how they chose the worst.

Starks, how pathetic of them to keep telling Jon Snow he is the real heir to the Iron Throne, pushed him to proclaim it, made him murder Danny and yet none spoke his name in the Dragon Pit.

I am having very hard time try to calm myself...
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Yep. Suppose the unsullied wouldn't allow for it, but feck'em.

Poor John. What was the entire plot point of revealing him as Aegon Targaryen? It was such a massive reveal but all they did with it was allow Sansa to cause a bit of mischief and get Varys killed? Literally, that was it. Varys' letters I guess also never made it out to anyone.
 
No white walker or Lord of Light reference in the final episode ...was kind of hoping for a hint that the NK storyline and it's connection with Bran might not be over.

Just rewatched some of the opening scenes before the episode took a dive and the visual direction is just majestic. Dany's speech was chilling (compare and contrast to Kit's speech in episode 4), the music was great and it looked just perfect. I could've happily watched a whole season of the aftermath of her 'liberating' cities in the winter before Jon or whoever stopped her. The set up and pay off of the 'mad queen' would have worked better with an extended season.
 
Ban said:
All in all it was all so rushed, just like someone said, oh gosh we have just half an hour left, lets put everything there and tie lose ends. It was like an ending of LOTR part 3 where they were saying goodby to each other for half an hour it seemed. Ok we get it.
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This was my first thoughts about the final 30 minutes as well.
 
I wish there would have been a scene where Jon basically said I don’t want to be a Stark, a Targaryen and certainly not the King and that I’d rather have the life of a bastard after all I’ve been through and go mourn and grieve up beyond the wall where I was happiest, renounce the crown and then cue that political roundtable scene, with no mention of Jon.
 
What watching will there be for Jon to do now anyway?

He's basically working in HMV.
 
GeorgieBoy said:
Couldn't agree more. That was Game of Thrones for me. Those scenes were simply fantastic. Just dialogue but had you on the edge of your seat; wondering if he sussed quite who she was.
On the delayed train home today managed to watch the first part of this. Great character and an even better actor.
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thanks for this. We almost forget how good it was before it all crashed and burned
 
Samid said:
What if Jon didn't want to be pardoned? He had his best time north of the wall. Think he's looking forward to spending time with Tormund, Ghost and fecking wild chicks.
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Agree. He was totally broken after killing Dany. Even if they would have decided to offer him to become king, there is no way that he would have accepted it.
 
Eckers99 said:
What watching will there be for Jon to do now anyway?

He's basically working in HMV.
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Did people miss the part where he left the wall behind him? The watch was just an excuse to get rid of Greyworm and co.
 
Ban said:
I think I might rewatch it soon. Wire too
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Always a great idea. Rewatched the Wire a while ago, show hasn’t lost a bit of its power. It just feels so real.
 
Pfft far too happy clappy ending with a bow on top. feck that shit. Night King should have won. If he didn’t walk so damn slow things would have been very different. The living got lucky.
 
Irwin99 said:
No white walker or Lord of Light reference in the final episode ...was kind of hoping for a hint that the NK storyline and it's connection with Bran might not be over.

Just rewatched some of the opening scenes before the episode took a dive and the visual direction is just majestic. Dany's speech was chilling (compare and contrast to Kit's speech in episode 4), the music was great and it looked just perfect. I could've happily watched a whole season of the aftermath of her 'liberating' cities in the winter before Jon or whoever stopped her. The set up and pay off of the 'mad queen' would have worked better with an extended season.
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Me too. Thought there would be some kind of tease somewhere.
 
Niall said:
Pfft far too happy clappy ending with a bow on top. feck that shit. Night King should have won. If he didn’t walk so damn slow things would have been very different. The living got lucky.
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I thought you were threadbanned?!
 
kouroux said:
The whole thing about Jon being the rightful King was just brushed under the carpet. It's too funny when you think about it
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RedSky said:
D&D forgot about that storyline. :D

In all seriousness, for them to not even have a sentence of dialogue to explain this is just ridiculous. It's been one of the main themes of the entire fecking season and his parentage has been argued about since Season 1!
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These.

Not having him as King for a sort of a sad/bittersweet ending is what we've come to expect from the show but the manner in which it was done...after years and years of the "....he is the rightful heir to the iron throne" reveal...oh my....
 
Samid said:
Did people miss the part where he left the wall behind him? The watch was just an excuse to get rid of Greyworm and co.
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Yeah he never rejoined the Nightswatch, that was just a rouse to get him back up north - he told Tormund he wish he was going back north of the wall with him.

Would have liked to have seen him wearing their furs etc and become a wildling.
 
Fully Fledged said:
He gone beyond the wall. He said to Tormund that that was where he would be happiest. I think Bran has sent him where he will be happy and fooled the Unsullied into believing he was being punished. They just couldn't tell Jon because he'd have given the game away.
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Yeah, the fool would have just said it loudly
 
Does Grey Worm even know he's Aegon? Just use that name instead. Grey Worm is tired of this bullshit anyway.
 
sullydnl said:
Thinking about it today, it wasn't as bad as I initially thought it was last night, when the words "Dexter" and "lumberjack" were leaping to mind.

I already liked everything up until the point the dragon fecked off. Now the final ending for the different characters is sitting better with me too. It's a good end to their individual stories, it just wasn't a particularly dramatic one. Really it was the summit and council scenes that screwed the episode for me though.

Where yesterday I thought the ending was straight up terrible, now I think the same basic endpoints could have been fine if they'd executed it better. Which is probably my complaint for the season as a whole really. I liked pretty much all the broad beats and set pieces but the way the writers carried us from one to the other was, well.....
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I agree with this
I watched again with my gf. The montage with the music at the end was actually really well done for the Starks and good to watch.

The small council was a sitcom scene. It just felt out of place. It was worse than I remembered
The scene with tyrion in chains was better than I remembered but not great. And it following danys death and being set in the future (weeks later) was just bizarre

The end scene was a mimick of the first scene of the show with the gates opening and watchers stepping out.
 
Revan said:
Good at adaptation, shit at writing an original story. If the rumours are true that their trilogy is an adaptation of KOTOR, then they might do a good job. If they do a new story, it is gonna be worse than the Last Jedi.
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I don't mind them getting the job because of the reasons you've mentioned. What I mean though is that I'm a petty fecker and they rushed through this because of boredom/wanting to do other stuff so if they lost it because of the GoT drop in quality I'd laugh my arse off.

They should have done a Larry David with Seinfeld and handed the reigns over when they decided they couldn't be bothered.
 
So after all the fuss from a few episodes ago about Jon not saying bye to Ghost and D&D making out it was too hard for CGI - only to see them reunited in episode 6...

What was that about?
 
Why didn’t Arya just use her faceless ability to mimic a soldier then kill Dany?

There’s so many plot holes and questions it’s almost laughable. Nearly everything that happened was meaningless.
 
So what actually was the ‘Song of Ice and Fire’ ultimately? Jon was mostly useless in the climax...it doesn’t make sense for him to be that ‘song’ knowing what we do now.

Was it really just the Ice King vs the hot red Priestesses all along? Like a game of some bipolar god?
 
Heardy said:
So after all the fuss from a few episodes ago about Jon not saying bye to Ghost and D&D making out it was too hard for CGI - only to see them reunited in episode 6...

What was that about?
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They forgot they'd filmed that.


Oh and if people want to kill a lot of time, Maisie Williams has posted on twitter about memes and there's literally hundreds being posted. Some really great ones too :lol:
 
Organic Potatoes said:
So what actually was the ‘Song of Ice and Fire’ ultimately? Jon was mostly useless in the climax...it doesn’t make sense for him to be that ‘song’ knowing what we do now.

Was it really just the Ice King vs the hot red Priestesses all along? Like a game of some bipolar god?
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The Others (Whitewalkers) and Daenerys. At least this is what GRRM said.

Like others, I thought that it is Jon (cause he combines both of them).
 
Redlambs said:
They forgot they'd filmed that.


Oh and if people want to kill a lot of time, Maisie Williams has posted on twitter about memes and there's literally hundreds being posted. Some really great ones too :lol:
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I’m in tears here, there are some belters on there.

Cersei rising from the rubble with 3 baby elephants is amazing
 
Castia said:
Why didn’t Arya just use her faceless ability to mimic a soldier then kill Dany?

There’s so many plot holes and questions it’s almost laughable. Nearly everything that happened was meaningless.
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She was planning too I think.
 
DouLou said:
God that was shit :lol:

.I would have been satisfied with an ending that had Jon in the north as he was, Dany on the throne, Sansa ruling the North for Dany but ultimately not trusting her and plotting her independence, and maybe float around the idea that one day Arya might take out Dany one day, and have Tyrion in doubt if he made the right choice. Maybe people would have hated that kind of ambiguity, but I think it would have found a nice balance between resolution but also y'know... not having to tie up everything so neatly.

The way they went with it, just ruined characters, created plot holes and ending up being ultimately very, very silly.
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I mean... You see the issue here, right ?
 
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