So? About 3000 people died during the troubles and it took an enormous political effort (and lots of sacrifice on the part of victims families) to bring it to a close. So now we’re just going to throw all that away and maybe have a few more thousand people killed just so you can have the delusion of ‘taking back control’ and handing it to a bunch of Eton toffs who want to strip mine the countries public services?
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) is joined by CEO Duncan Drasdo and Financial Director Andy Green from the Manchester United Supporters Trust for a special episode on all things behind the scenes at Old Trafford including a brief history of MUST and their aims today, views on INEOS and Sir Jim Ratcliffe so far, and the Old Trafford regeneration.
So? About 3000 people died during the troubles and it took an enormous political effort (and lots of sacrifice on the part of victims families) to bring it to a close. So now we’re just going to throw all that away and maybe have a few more thousand people killed just so you can have the delusion of ‘taking back control’ and handing it to a bunch of Eton toffs who want to strip mine the countries public services?
meh... 2/10 must WUM better
Nothing wum about it.
It is the one of the biggest reasons it's an issue. Repeatedly stated by remain MPs and as I said, by PSNI today.
It is the one of the biggest reasons it's an issue. Repeatedly stated by remain MPs and as I said, by PSNI today.
It sounds like a wum because it’s stating the bleeding obvious, without saying anything helpful/interesting. Like saying that the problem with mass shootings in the US is “just knobheads shooting people”.
Nobody but the remnants of the Irish terror groups want a return to the violence. I certainly don't want to see a border in place, other than the one on a map. I would also welcome a chance for the Irish to vote on their future, as and when they choose to do so.
These groups, or the splinter groups haven't stopped their violence anyway.
Cowering to the threat of terrorists just seems counter productive and if anything, strengthens their beliefs.
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That was exactly the argument put forward all through the Troubles, and led to endless killing and horror. Let’s not pretend it’s anyone other than the UK stirring things up now and potentially stamping on the GFA. You can’t just tear up one of the most sensitive deals in modern times and then point the blame at someone else if it all turns to shit.
Expecting Britain not to casually opt out of the GFA that a lot of good people fought for isn't standing up to the terrorists for feck sake.
PM Statement at 6pm.
The British forces have been gone decades yet attacks continue. Being able to blame the British for the now and the past 20 years is quite a stretch. The terror groups, whatever they now call themselves, didn't really stop, so the blame lies squarely with them, for every bomb attack since 1998, for every shooting, for every attack on the PSNI or others like the murder of the journalist a few months back. Nobody else.
https://www.mi5.gov.uk/threat-levels Current threat level from NI terrorists in NI - Severe
https://www.france24.com/en/2019081...mb-police-terrorism-ira-fermanagh-nationalist 20th August, 2019
https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/...prove-terrorism-hasnt-gone-away-34672253.html 1100 attacks in 10 years.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-10866072 - A timeline of events over the past 10 years
Lyra McKee was the murdered journalist.
But of course, its all big bad Britain's fault.
What a silly post. What age are you? Serious question
The UK should just take over the rest of Ireland again and leave the EU. Backstop issue solved and we satisfy the will of the British people.
Who solely blamed Britain? I have no idea what point you're trying to make.
Neither does he to be fair.
Brexit, just twats being racist fecking idiots isn't it?!?
Why do you think things have become unstable again? I’ll give you a clue, it begins with Br and ends in exit
I never said he did!
"We have the preliminary plans and we'll feed them in at the right time"
Yeah like anyone believes that
Any chance Boris is just going to tell us Dominic Cummings has sacked him?
Seems I was right earlier on; they know they don't have the numbers to block incoming legislation despite Cummings machinations. Wonder who pulled the plug on Boris appointing 100 new lords or blocking royal assent.
@golden_blunder Isn't there some sort of threadban you guys can use to stop trolls like this [wensley] messing with decent threads?
@golden_blunder Isn't there some sort of threadban you guys can use to stop trolls like this [wensley] messing with decent threads?
Some reporters are saying he won't be announcing a general election
Government seal on the lectern, so he's speaking on behalf of the government not the party, and election announcement not likely.
Looks like he's going for a election
those chants in the background
Won't be an election announcement, simply a statement to MP's that either 'i win in parliament this week or i have to call an election so the evil elites cant block my will and the will of the people wrt brexit. these are your choices MP, back me or we call one.'
Just another "enemies of the people" speech
Chants drowning him out
What the feck does that mean then?
Bit of a anti climax
His eyes are so close together.
Quite funny watching him try not be distracted by the chanting.
So he is not saying anything that he hasn't said already.
That it'll need to be a VONC but we knew that because he wants a GE. He just doesn't want to call it.
He talks about the power of his negotiating position, the aim of which is presumably to remove the backstop. Yet there isn't anything to negotiate we just need to demonstrate our alternative arrangements.
The idea that he'll only present them under the context that the EU are scared we might leave on no deal is ludicrous.
nothing's changed
The bit where Brexit wasn't even a thing between 2009 and 2016.
And Brexit being the excuse or reason for everything simply doesn't stand up to scrutiny. It's a cop out, nothing more, nothing less.
Loose the vote... Deselect MP's... Smash Corbyn in pmq's have saj give away billions in the spending review then call an election vote... And all back to the bullingdon club for pimms on Friday
Nothing. It’s just blame game for when he does head for an election and deselect his MPs. Just laying groundwork.
He will claim that he didn’t want to waste time with one but the treasonous MPs made him do it by trying to sabotage the will of the people. Then deselect them and head for a People vs Parliament election.