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UK General Election - 12th December 2019 | Con 365, Lab 203, LD 11, SNP 48, Other 23 - Tory Majority of 80
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) is joined by CEO Duncan Drasdo and Financial Director Andy Green from the Manchester United Supporters Trust for a special episode on all things behind the scenes at Old Trafford including a brief history of MUST and their aims today, views on INEOS and Sir Jim Ratcliffe so far, and the Old Trafford regeneration.
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If you can't see it then you've got @langster on ignore.
Nobody posted the interview with the UKIP woman yet?
Here's a taster...
I urge you to track down the whole thing simply for the tone of the interviewer throughout.
No but we do have I think he's Indian. I mean WTF? This is an actual political party.
I haven't read into it but I'd imagine I'll need to pay some sort of fees here onto top of whatever needs to be paid in Kangaroo Land. Haven't read into it because it would frankly be a morbid thing to do.
Both of you are asking questions that you should probably stop asking. Those photos of me at Hitler's penthouse were photoshopped.
I would were it not for my severe dislike of landlords. And I imagine that tenants are arseholes too. Actually, I dislike people in general tbf.
But if taking a big chunk of my inheritance means that the wealth gets shared and it can go towards helping people who need it more than I do then, yes, I genuinely don't give a shit because at the end of the day I'll still have enough to pass down to my kids. That's not altruistic, it's just fair. I've benefitted from free prescriptions and education in this country, and the roads are only 80% covered in potholes, and the daily giant wasp armies now only come once a week. Plus my dad would come back to life and throttle me for being a, I imagine in his words, "a Tory cnut".
This is Britain 2019.
One issue I have with inheritance tax is that we have one of the worst pension systems in the developed world and you need a crazy amount to have anything approaching a mediocre retirement.
Inheriting their parents' property is many people's only hope on that front.
Underfunded can also come about from a massive hike in costs, as usually happens under state ownership.
Like @MikeUpNorth said, it's unlikely to make much difference. UK railways are about equal with Europe aside from cost, which is purely down to the level of subsidies.
Costs like fair pay for staff and adequate safety standards? Worth paying.
Costs like profit for shareholders and directors who have squeezed every penny they can at the expense of staff/safety/environment etc? Not as worth it.
Let's be honest... It's criminal how generations of pensions over the last few decades were hijacked to fund current day political promises.
We should have a trillion pound ring fenced sovereign wealth fund funded via hypothecated pension contributions since WW2 whereby people are being paid their own pensions.
The worst is yet to come of course as we have a 14 figure black hole.
This is posted on the official Conservative youtube page
This is probably where we divert paths because I'm public sector and pay into a private pension that'll end up being more than the basic government one. Sure, I get paid less for my job compared to the private sector but I'm the long term I might be better off.
Unless I get hit by a bus tomorrow, which would be kind of shit tbh.
Knew it!
ok maybe that one is real.Look at Mr Pigeon with his two houses, and living in colour and black & white.
Seems a couple of cafe members in this thread have twitter accounts.
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That might explain why the cons are on their way to a majority despite making Britain a worse place.Strangely hypnotic. Have they got Paul McKenna on their media team?
Tories enlisting incels now.
And with his final salary pension scheme.
Look at Mr Pigeon with his two houses, and living in colour and black & white.
Nobody posted the interview with the UKIP woman yet?
Here's a taster...
I urge you to track down the whole thing simply for the tone of the interviewer throughout.
I forgot about that bit. He's like the Great Gatsby but with feathers.
I almost laughed.
I wish it was final salary. It was until about 2013 before they decided to say "haha not for you young man, you're not getting that deal". But ach, shit happens.
Stop moaning, Goldfinger.
I would laugh at this, but I've got the same pension scheme
It's more of a fist actually.
The issue I have with inheritance tax is why should anyone take away something which is legally yours and your families. It has been paid for on a salary that has already been taxed. It's really no bodies business to take anything left to you from your parents from you.
So inheritance tax should be skipped by a generation? E.g. if your parents inherited it then you have no claim to it as your parents didn't pay for it via their own salary
I wasn't really thinking that no but it's a fair point. Essentially I don't think ramping up taxes or forcing people to sell homes they have inherited at a cut price, is fair. I get who they are trying to target however you'll capture a lot of everyday working class people who as mentioned earlier will take home a pittance of a pension which their inheritance would be used to bump up.
There's enough taxation elsewhere.
I agree that ramping up taxes and forcing people out of their homes is not what anyone wants. We just need to find a happy medium somewhere and it's not quite as simple as just having great parents who are nice little savers in a lot of cases.
We currently have over half the land in the country owned by 1%. So they're perhaps is some room for more taxation to even it out.
They knocked on my door the other day, at least Labour only send me mail.
Aren't the government subsidising the railway industry anyway?
We also have foreign governments running train companies in the UK.
Indeed - for as much as the Iraq War was clearly disastrous and a terrible idea in retrospect interventionism didn't have the same stain it does now and Blair undoubtedly felt buoyed by his previous successes at the time. While I think he has to take culpability for his mistakes and for his complete misjudgment of Iraq and the US regime he was dealing with, I don't think the initial entry into Iraq was necessarily cynical on his part, even if the methods achieved to ensure invasion often were; I think he genuinely thought he was doing good. It will forever be the main stain on his spell as PM in general, but as far as intentions went there were probably domestic policies that were more ill-intentioned at their point of introduction.
I'd argue inheritance tax is fine but that it should have a fairly high starting point. I don't necessarily think it should hit moderately well-off people who nevertheless aren't what you'd describe as rich, and who could potentially be left in a difficult situation with a heavy tax; when it gets to genuinely rich, high-earners though, I think it's absolutely fair game; plenty of rich families coast off their wealth for generations without having to really earn it at all, and while I don't think they should be stripped of that wealth entirely, they should be expected to contribute substantially to maintaining an upholding a system which benefits them massively.
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