Your faith in the system is impressive.
Sadly, I doubt that the resources are just sitting around in a warehouse somewhere ready to ship.
SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)
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Your faith in the system is impressive.
Sadly, I doubt that the resources are just sitting around in a warehouse somewhere ready to ship.
Worrying thing I saw on that BBC article about the latest rise is that the tests take a couple of days to return?... Isn't it a few hours elsewhere?
I've seen it on Sky news's Twitter now so probably legit.
Not the slightest sign of people stocking up with extra stuff in sunny Preston this afternoon. Even paracetamol and the like is still on the shelves.
My daughter is in college near D.C. Her roommate was starting her semester in Italy but has been sent back home. Fortunately she had already sublet her room to another girl so I think my daughter is safe for now. I hope the returning girl has enough sense to self quarantine because I don't think it's been made mandatory for these returning students.
I think you just invited mass tourism to Preston.
We have some interesting traffic bollards that keep getting knocked over by traffic. They're quite a talking point round here.
Its only mandatory if you either get symptoms or been to a lockdowned town.
WHO - still not declaring a pandemic. This director general guy is a joke. I mean what are we waiting for? 50% of the population to be infected?
China - Silencing initial warnings and whistleblowers. Yup thanks for that.
USA - 'We'll test you only when you are coughing your lungs out lol'
Italy - Mamma mia please come to Milan, we welcome you with open arms
Iran - Quarantine is outdated and doesn't work.
UK - Nah nothing to be worried bout guv. Business as usual.
I fecking give up.
China - Silencing initial warnings and whistleblowers. Yup thanks for that.
USA - 'We'll test you only when you are coughing your lungs out lol'
Italy - Mamma mia please come to Milan, we welcome you with open arms
Iran - Quarantine is outdated and doesn't work.
UK - Nah nothing to be worried bout guv. Business as usual.
I fecking give up.
Dunno how true this is but supposedly my local a&e has been closed as a doctor worked a shift there after returning from Italy. I believe he’s one of the parents of the child who caused a school to shut down in Ireland a few days ago
Supplies AND points of interest/photo ops. Say goodbye to the sleepy town. People will be cramming the aisles of the local supermarkets coughing, sneezing, and touching each other while fighting over the last bottle of water.
A case confirmed at the elementary school 200m from my house. Getting close now 
Unsurprisingly, the kid just came back from a north-Italy skiing trip.
Unsurprisingly, the kid just came back from a north-Italy skiing trip.
You make it sound like corona virus is going to kick down your door and get youA case confirmed at the elementary school 200m from my house. Getting close now
Unsurprisingly, the kid just came back from a north-Italy skiing trip.
I'm almost relieved its kicking off elsewhere in Europe now, selfish i know but it was beginning to feel pretty isolated in Northern Italy.
The process goes something like this; confidence it's on the other side of the world and wont affect us, alarm that a few cases have emerged, worry that the outbreak is getting pretty big and it's on your doorstep now, fear that its out of control and annoyance that the government isn't doing more, then finally quiet resignation that it's everywhere and you might as well get used to it. I guess the UK is still pretty early on that scale.
The first case in my immediate neighbourhood was found this week, a doctor who turned up at the local A&E with a bad cough. If medical professionals can't follow precautions what hope do the rest of us have.
The process goes something like this; confidence it's on the other side of the world and wont affect us, alarm that a few cases have emerged, worry that the outbreak is getting pretty big and it's on your doorstep now, fear that its out of control and annoyance that the government isn't doing more, then finally quiet resignation that it's everywhere and you might as well get used to it. I guess the UK is still pretty early on that scale.
The first case in my immediate neighbourhood was found this week, a doctor who turned up at the local A&E with a bad cough. If medical professionals can't follow precautions what hope do the rest of us have.
No. Today's Was the highest jump so far.
I spent a lot of time 200m from a school and someone kicked my door down.
No pedofile or rape jokes, should go without saying but I know what some of you are like.
To compound all that, I have an overarching feeling of responsibility.
I am literally two phone calls away from the prime minister of my country. This has nothing to do with my job but rather with the randomness of living in a small country. I can almost guarantee that any of those phone calls are likely to get at least 5 minutes of attention if approached right.
That just isn't enough though. At moments like these governments defer to specialized agencies. I've worked closely to some of these people and I can't say for certain they are implementing an optimized response to this. We live in an age where I think it's not unreasonable to believe that some random 1st year medical student on reddit is more up-to-date on this issue than the 60 year lady, who has devoted her entire life to public health, that is advising the prime minister right now. The former will have major flaws in his reasoning due to not understanding the basics of Epidemiology and Public Health, the later will have major flaws because she's living in 2010 whilst the information age is living in 2020. Organizations like WHO are being remarkably slow in this, in my opinion. Not wrong, just slow.
To relax, I just think I need to accept that optimal responses to a situation like are this utopic. We'll have to settle for the reasonable.
Later there is a Braga - Portimonense game in northern Portugal. Am I wrong in thinking that shutting this game to fans will end up saving one or two lifes in the future? In the most optimistic of scenarios. In the worst could very well end up saving 100 lives. Who knows? I'm not thinking about the dozens of games tomorrow. Just about this game tonight.
Stress will get you before the coronavirus at this rate.
A weird amount of people seem to be buzzing off of this, and almost hoping for it to get as chaotic as imaginable. Like they're routing for it.
More than 100 HK restaurants refuse to serve customers from China
https://www.bangkokpost.com/world/1873089/more-than-100-hk-restaurants-refuse-to-serve-customers-from-china#cxrecs_s
Koh Phangan suspends full-moon party
https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailand/general/1872284/koh-phangan-suspends-full-moon-party#cxrecs_s
https://www.bangkokpost.com/world/1873089/more-than-100-hk-restaurants-refuse-to-serve-customers-from-china#cxrecs_s
Koh Phangan suspends full-moon party
https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailand/general/1872284/koh-phangan-suspends-full-moon-party#cxrecs_s
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No of course not, but he travelled by bus with 50 others from my town, which is only 40k large. Odds are he won't be the only one.
Doesn't it make you feel alive?
Just goes to show what boring little lives some people have.
But the fact that so many people are talking about it is very much down to the huge amount of media coverage it is getting.
What I can't understand is the need for all the panic buying.
Some shops have sold out of pasta for goodness sake.
And toilet rolls.
Maybe we will find a need for the Daily Mail after all....
A Chinese friend of ours was just giving out that loads of Italians will be in Ireland for the rugby. She says that a lot of Chinese restaurants will not open this weekend in Dublin because they don’t want to serve the Italians
Well you know, I hate it when there's so much bullshit around with contradictory statements from governments like 'This is NOT a drill but it's not a pandemic either' or 'We are mostly in the delay phase but we are also open for business as usual"
Just say it like it is:
'We are going to pretend to try and stop this disease, but nothing that will hurt the economy too much. Brace yourself for infection in the meantime. If you survive, great. If you don't, tough. Suck it up, princesses.'
I saw something on twitter earlier, a picture of one of those arcade grabber machines, full of toilet rolls
there has to be some pragmatism though. the world has to keep turning, unless you want to collapse the entire economy. there has to be balance.
Is what we're seeing now worse than what would have resulted if we blocked travel to and from China? I seriously hope the governments have this under control.
As with all things in this world when the cases start rising or a lot of people begin dying we will drastically change what we are doing and have this solved relatively quickly, its been like this forever.
I'm not condoning this or saying it's right, it has always been like this we as a civilised society turn a blind eye until it smacks us in the face.
One of these days though one of these outbreaks is going to go full pandemic and kill millions. The UK governments worst case scenario for this one has a death toll of about 500k, so millions globally isn’t some hyperbolic number in that scenario.
Now this may not be the illness that does it. Probably won’t be. But with the world so globalized, and these kind of outbreaks happening worryingly often, it’s going to happen sooner or later without solid action to guard against it. But instead what is going to happen is exactly what we’re seeing now. People will half-arse shit in the early stages hoping it just goes away, and it’s not until it’s too late that real action is taken.
At some point economic growth has to come second to public health.
The children will be fine. Maybe an infraction or two but that's it.
It'll be the older posters who get the ban stick. Up to 15% of them.
The thing with a virus that constantly kills its host successfully means it limits its own spread.
But everybody who's in charge just seems to be one step behind where they need to be. Isn't prevention supposed to be better than cure?
And it's not that the world didn't not get enough warning. Everyone was watching China for at least a month before it started to seep outside the country.
Yes which is why it’s much more likely it’ll be one of these current kind of viruses that end up fecking millions of people rather than an Ebola outbreak or the like.
A Chinese friend of ours was just giving out that loads of Italians will be in Ireland for the rugby. She says that a lot of Chinese restaurants will not open this weekend in Dublin because they don’t want to serve the Italians
Cheeky feckers. I'm not allowed to go to China now, it was them that gave it to us in the first place!
*quickly
Virus'/Bacteria/Pathogens and other single cell organisms evolve very quickly. It's entirely possible for there to be a virus that has a long asymptomatic incubation period but is fatal when it becomes active.
I believe HIV is an example of one, but luckily it didn't have airborne transmition.
A virus that kills is unsuccessful.