I already said I don’t agree with us being considered champions without playing the last 10 games, but to think we would lose our 25 points lead - meaning we would lose ALL ten games, a team that lost twice in two Premier League seasons is absolutely fecking pathetic and so far gone in the insanity camp.
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So no relegation/promotion either?
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Due to the bolded part I'm assuming that means they'd essentially be calling the league table final minus the relegation's? I.e Liverpool champions, Leicester in the CL etc?
Although I don't see why the CL places would need to be "expanded". If the season ended today you'd be in it anyway due to City being banned and you being 5th. Although I'm sure Sheffield United would have a gripe with that given they can go 5th with their game in hand. So in that sense it's unfair and the top leagues in Europe already have enough CL places as it is.
Unless there is a very rapid turnaround the season will be declared null and void.
The only other option is to play all the remaining games. However the fixture congestion will be so massive across all the leagues games that the already stretched police and ambulance services will withdraw their support.
Without them the grounds won't have a valid safety certificate and the games will grind to a halt.
Any sort of rushing of games, playing behind closed doors, forcing teams to play when they have players and staff in isolation, playoff, or revised placings will be so open to legal challenge by broadcasters, clubs, sponsors, suppliers and staff as to threaten bankruptcy for a massive number of clubs.
The only decision without legal consequences is to declare the season null and void due to force majeure. Broadcasters and sponsors can't complain and could easily be offered an additional year of coverage.
Clubs can plan / refinance, hopeful of a new season starting in September.
Players can self isolate or regain fitness rather than be rushed back to a ridiculously dense playing schedule.
I believe the only reason this hasn't been announced already is that the FA has to be seen to have exhausted all alternative options.
We are going to be seeing hospitals at breaking point if this gets into the elderly population and I don't trust Boris the oaf to sort this out.
The only other option is to play all the remaining games. However the fixture congestion will be so massive across all the leagues games that the already stretched police and ambulance services will withdraw their support.
Without them the grounds won't have a valid safety certificate and the games will grind to a halt.
Any sort of rushing of games, playing behind closed doors, forcing teams to play when they have players and staff in isolation, playoff, or revised placings will be so open to legal challenge by broadcasters, clubs, sponsors, suppliers and staff as to threaten bankruptcy for a massive number of clubs.
The only decision without legal consequences is to declare the season null and void due to force majeure. Broadcasters and sponsors can't complain and could easily be offered an additional year of coverage.
Clubs can plan / refinance, hopeful of a new season starting in September.
Players can self isolate or regain fitness rather than be rushed back to a ridiculously dense playing schedule.
I believe the only reason this hasn't been announced already is that the FA has to be seen to have exhausted all alternative options.
We are going to be seeing hospitals at breaking point if this gets into the elderly population and I don't trust Boris the oaf to sort this out.
They had a public (twitter) game of noughts and crosses. It was a stalemate.Attempt at humour?
If they'd mathematically wrapped it up then they'd be champions mate. You can't go mad about how City can catch them, as unlikely as it is, then turn around and say the league doesn't count if they haven't played all of their games, even if no one can catch them.
I think you're right. Various media are simply guessing at things like Liverpool being awarded the league and 22 team premier leagues / cups cancelled etc.
We're all hoping this "Blows over" quickly, but that'd be super naïve to rely on that.
That is just solution for PL, and it doesn’t really solve the problem of CL, and EL qualifications. It just adds more games with while how this pandemic looks, you can‘t schedule for next season season anytime soon.
What about the EURO? The longer it is delayed the messier the football world look. It’s an international tournament. Some players are at the end of their careers. It’s supposed to be hosted before the new season. It’s a more pressing issue than clubs’ qualification for next year UEFA competitions. See the irony? Those same competitions can be cancelled too as we‘re seeing with this season...
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The thing is we are supposed to look at the big picture where pretty much every other teams’ result would be null and void. You can’t relegate teams based on league position as is without teams protest. Same go with giving European qualification. And it happens in every ongoing league.
If you separate an incident from the whole system, then that doesn’t belong to the system any more. Liverpool being crowned champion in a null & void season for 19 other teams in PL and hundreds teams from other leagues and divisions. How does it sound?
I can't recall any disease in my lifetime having such a serious effect on people's livelihoods. Personally I was very surprised that a mass event like Cheltenham Festival took place in the current situation.
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What bizarre assumptions you've made in this rambling post. If you don't want to get annoyed, then start posting with more caution. Words matter, else you're part of the problem:
https://www.theguardian.com/comment...out-covid-19-can-be-as-dangerous-as-the-virus
But he's right? City's league cup would need to be void too, you can't pick and choose what counts in a season without finishing it properly.
Both arguments are valid. Because it is not about Liverpool only. Imagine situation after 37 games where Liverpool are champions but only GD separate 4th and 5th club or 18th and 17th. How can that season be legit? How will you solve that problem?
But nevertheless in this current situation no way that season is valid
Because pandemic (should be announced at the very start when China had to isolate Wuhan) hadn’t occurred in a long long time.
It can be said to equate a war. Government need to put lives of the people before anything else, and abandon everything else.
I am speechless about Cheltenham Festival. This is worse than anything thus far about other countries ignoring the warnings. GB was given the sign with WHO ‘s pandemic announcement. If thing gets for the worse, pitchfork would be after the current regime.
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That competition is complete, finished, finito!! The league is not finished ffs how hard is this to understand
Quick thought. How is this going to affect the transfer window? With the travel restrictions coming into play and possibly getting worse, I can't see how viable a window would be this year? How are players expected to leave the likes of Spain, Italy or even China under current conditions?
Not like we’d benefit hugely from finishing above those sides
Just because we have a new owner doesn’t suddenly mean we can compete financially with those sides named. Us finishing above them would be huge for us.I believe, he tries to convey the idea that teams (Liverpool in this case) lose chances to win trophies, while City gets to keep their League Cup.
As you guys already gave the answer, I just want to add. This season, League Cup didn’t use this season league outcomes to defer, seed teams for matchup but the last season’s. It completed its course. The result stands.
That’s why you shouldn’t talk down on chances to win trophy however less prestigious it is. Klopp is quite far one if not the most terrible offender. Don’t complain about losing chance now when you piss on other chances other people actually care. What is counted is what you literally win. Tough luck.
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Hate Liveroool as much as anyone but I think it would be wrong not to v8 e it to them even of the season is cancelled. If it was 2 or six oiints in it, yes, but 25 points...
Finish the rest of the season in the fall, take a winter break, start the new season in Jan/Feb 21. Play until winter 21.
Do the World Cup qualification/Nations League and Euro's in the spring before starting the new season in June/July 2022. Makes a little more space for WC22 in the winter of 2022 too.
Season 2023 everything is back to normal.
Do the World Cup qualification/Nations League and Euro's in the spring before starting the new season in June/July 2022. Makes a little more space for WC22 in the winter of 2022 too.
Season 2023 everything is back to normal.
Excellent analysis and the reason why we can't just end the season at face value now. It must be finished or voided.
But not every team has even played 29 games yet. Once you realize that then the rest of that line of thinking quickly unravels.
We’re 3 points from 4th and deep into the FA cup and Europa League. If it’s wrong to not hand Liverpool a title they haven’t won yet, it’s even worse to deny everyone else of their potential achievements.
What you do about giving all those CL, EL qualification, and relegation? It’s not about PL, but other leagues also. You’re part of a system or you’re out of it. So until they can sort the whole system out, that 25 points is nothing. There is no system to account for that 25 points gap.
A two tier system of recognition; excellent idea.
The way this virus is progressing, it is pure fantasy to think that April 6 is an appropriate date to begin playing again. I would expect July or August at the earliest, and that assumes we follow a similar trajectory to containment as China, and experts say there are too many variables to map out an accurate trajectory of the virus: https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coron...d-19-outbreak-peak-experts-weigh-in-1.4845523
I think that the season will be cancelled and the Euros pushed out a year. I'm surprised the Premier League was in denial for so long.
I think that the season will be cancelled and the Euros pushed out a year. I'm surprised the Premier League was in denial for so long.
Been said a few times but the main issue with large gatherings in open space isn’t that the virus will spread at rate, it’s the use of emergency services and police.
I dunno, people seem to think this virus follows zombie apocalypse rules where the spread and infection happens within seconds. There isn’t this fast moving chain reaction thing going on.
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I mentioned plenty of times afterwards that those teams that have 28 matches (City, Villa, S.United and Arsenal) can complete their one game behind closed doors at a later point so that everyone has an even number of matches.
I don't think we should just null and void three quarters of a season though. No champion is crowned, and it might be taken out of the FA/Premier League's hands as to who qualifies for European spaces, which is the only actual obligation we have outside of our own national system.
I don't think we should relegate anyone or even crown Liverpool champions. My point was that they would be champions had they already wrapped up the league before its suspension. They haven't, so they aren't.
Why would you void a completed competition? Some of you have gone completely loony.
That's not the situation though. I don't believe anything should happen for certain unless it's already mathematically impossible for anything else to happen. My point was solely that if Liverpool had earned enough points this season to mean nobody could catch them, then they would be champions regardless of when the league was suspended. As it is, they still need 6 points so they can't be handed the title as they can still be caught.
Did Liverpool win the league?
NO
Should a club who didn't win the league, be awarded the league trophy?
NO
Should a club who didn't win the league, be awarded the league trophy?
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Liverpool will go to court. They're not gonna let this slip
Your honour, we didn't win the league, we think you should ignore this and award us the league.
Liverpool will go to court. They're not gonna let this slip
Your honour, we didn't win the league, we think you should ignore this and award us the league.
The symptom, outbreak delayed by the characteristic of the virus may not have an immediate effect. The aftermath once the symptoms kicks in is. There is not enough resources to care for that many people with disease that has no cure. Even testing are not sufficient supplied hence national emergency status.
Ask any Italian doctors, and you would know.
Even if they are awarded the league should the season end prematurely, it will always have an asterisk besides it. It'll be like 75% of a league title, and would be considered meaningless long term.