SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)

[Kag]

Yep. Had to laugh at teacher on 5live there now asking if teachers would also be in the 'key worker' group. The answer is no ffs. Teachers tend to have an incredibly high opinion of the importance of their career.

And people with no experience of working within the education sector tend to have an incredibly negative and narrow-minded view of the profession.

Am I doing this right?

I’ll be at work on Monday. As will many others. I wouldn’t worry yourself too much about that.

 

[Carl]

..

Thanks.

Are you in France?

How long has this lockdown been in place? Is an end date set?

Who do you give this signed form to? Is it a physical form or some kind of online thing?

Are there penalties if found on the streets without the relevant paperwork?

 

[Garethw]

Anybody heard of a guy called Jason Nota?

There is a video of his doing the rounds on Facebook where he is claiming that Boris will announce a 15 day total shutdown of the UK tomorrow.

Probably a load of bollocks.

 

[JPRouve]

Thanks.

Are you in France?

How long has this lockdown been in place? Is an end date set?

Who do you give this signed form to? Is it a physical form or some kind of online thing?

Are there penalties if found on the streets without the relevant paperwork?

Yes, I'm in France. The lockdown effectively started yesterday and you give the attestation to the police if they ask, currently you are supposed to get a 135€ fine if you don't have the attestation with you.

 

[Classical Mechanic]

One of the reasons, why I never understood Brexit.
EU membership gave you in times of unexpected crisis higher food supply security.

You know, I never heard that argument come up once. Food security is never really discussed here and something we take for granted. It would have been too abstract for the Brexit bunch to grasp.

 

[balaks]

And people with no experience of working within the education sector tend to have an incredibly negative and narrow-minded view of the profession.

Am I doing this right?

I’ll be at work on Monday. As will many others. I wouldn’t worry yourself too much about that.

I'll be in work also. I'll be in work throughout this. I just have had many years having people in teaching telling me how important they are and acting like nobody can possibly have a more difficult job. I'm sure you are not like that and I know not all teachers are like that but feck me I've met many like it.

 

[Ian Reus]

Jason Nota

That's also an anagram of Jan Oat Son so who knows what's going on.

 

[Wednesday at Stoke]

Anybody heard of a guy called Jason Nota?

There is a video of his doing the rounds on Facebook where he is claiming that Boris will announce a 15 day total shutdown of the UK tomorrow.

Probably a load of bollocks.

Well, that's already happening in the rest of Europe so its not drastically draconian by any means.

 

[Suedesi]

He is one of the biggest actors out there, I wouldn't trust him. He is worse than Trump when it comes to interviews.

This is him laughing at the situation on 26th of February(Italy was hit pretty bad back then) with his idiotic past it doctor telling the Serbian people "it's one of the silliest viruses in the entire human history; it's facebook virus. All women should rush to Milano because everything is on sale there these days". He tried to deny the virus because he didn't want to believe that his Chinese investors he made many deals with brought the virus to Europe:




And this is him few days later pretending to be coughing so he can tell his "haters" that it's not a virus, it's just water that made his throat itchy, so he can be in news again:





Edit: I forgot the funniest video, this is him few months ago trying to speak Chinese:

What an arsehole

 

[balaks]

Anybody heard of a guy called Jason Nota?

There is a video of his doing the rounds on Facebook where he is claiming that Boris will announce a 15 day total shutdown of the UK tomorrow.

Probably a load of bollocks.

It is plausible and will likely happen soon enough.

 

[Rado_N]

Anybody heard of a guy called Jason Nota?

There is a video of his doing the rounds on Facebook where he is claiming that Boris will announce a 15 day total shutdown of the UK tomorrow.

Probably a load of bollocks.

Never heard of him but a quick google led to the following top hit:

JASON NOTA ~ "PEOPLE ARE feckING STUPID, THIS CORONA VIRUS IS NOTHING BUT A SMOKE SCREEN"

 

[arnie_ni]

They are I believe. I'm referring to what they generally get paid.

Ah fair enough. Yea id agree they're underpaid.

Hopefully if any good comes from this the govn and people will realise those in the medical industry need a pay bump

 

[Paxi]

I read that in my head in a very camp German accent.

kampf surely?

 

[Oo0AahCantona]

Anybody heard of a guy called Jason Nota?

There is a video of his doing the rounds on Facebook where he is claiming that Boris will announce a 15 day total shutdown of the UK tomorrow.

Probably a load of bollocks.

I havent seen the video but does it mention the military at all?

 

[Garethw]

Never heard of him but a quick google led to the following top hit:

JASON NOTA ~ "PEOPLE ARE feckING STUPID, THIS CORONA VIRUS IS NOTHING BUT A SMOKE SCREEN"

I’ll file this one under bullshit then.

 

[Garethw]

I havent seen the video but does it mention the military at all?

Yes mate. He claims the military have been mobilised.

 

[C'est Moi Cantona]

I see the Universal Basic Income is been suggested as way forward in the Uk during this, it would certainly give reassurance to alot of people, and keep things propped up short term.

 

[VorZakone]

What's the deal with Italy's stats? Apparently the fatality rates have soared again.

 

[Carl]

Yes, I'm in France. The lockdown effectively started yesterday and you give the attestation to the police if they ask, currently you are supposed to get a 135€ fine if you don't have the attestation with you.

Interesting.

Sorry for all the questions.. but:

How would they know you aren't just saying your going for groceries or generally lying about what you're doing though? Also, have they specified what physical activities are allowed? Golf can be quite isolating...

 

[redshaw]

Report from Italian hospital 9 mins 22 seconds in. Pretty grim.

 

[TMDaines]

Not just the English then:

 

[JPRouve]

What's the deal with Italy's stats? Apparently the fatality rates have soared again.

No particular deal, you need to pay attention to the critical cases figures and keep in mind that most of these people are among the people with higher chances of death. Currently Italy has 2257 critical cases, a large amount are going to die.

 

[RedSky]

Not just the English then:

Aye, always will be people like that and it's not an age issue either as there are plenty from all generations that think this way.

 

[Revan]

I appreciate all of that, its just that your original post may be interpreted as peer reviewed papers aren't that great, when really I think the message should be anything in a well respected journal is usually fine.

There is actually some junk in top venues, but most are fine (but hardly advance the field), and a tiny minority which are awesome. In venues with binary choices (accept/reject) like conferences in CS (conferences in CS are more important than journals and have a lengthy double-blinded review process, similar to journals in other fields), the bulk of the papers are in the category of okay, and with the review process very random http://blog.mrtz.org/2014/12/15/the-nips-experiment.html

I have seen papers getting orals in top conferences (acceptance rate of orals is typically 1-2%) being absolute junk, there are papers who get rejected to later get a best paper award and so on.

Peer-review is better than no review, but in the end, it is hardly fault-proof (or anywhere near that).

 

[0le]

There is actually some junk in top venues, but most are fine (but hardly advance the field), and a tiny minority which are awesome. In venues with binary choices (accept/reject) like conferences in CS (conferences in CS are more important than journals and have a lengthy double-blinded review process, similar to journals in other fields), the bulk of the papers are in the category of okay, and with the review process very random http://blog.mrtz.org/2014/12/15/the-nips-experiment.html

I have seen papers getting orals in top conferences (acceptance rate of orals is typically 1-2%) being absolute junk, there are papers who get rejected to later get a best paper award and so on.

Peer-review is better than no review, but in the end, it is hardly fault-proof (or anywhere near that).

I presume by CS you mean computer science? In my field most conferences are rubbish but one or two are very good. Most of the well respected journals also have very good papers, its rare to find anything rubbish. Not much is groundbreaking though, but its the nature of the field.

 

[0le]

I hope our network providers can support the surge in home internet use, particularly with the kids now going to be at home too...

 

[Hugh Jass]

Not just the English then:

They remind me of the people that appear on Jermey Kyle, before it was axed.

 

[Revan]

I presume by CS you mean computer science? In my field most conferences are rubbish but one or two are very good. Most of the well respected journals also have very good papers, its rare to find anything rubbish. Not much is groundbreaking though, but its the nature of the field.

Yep, CS is quite different. For historical reasons, the science in that field has been published mostly in conferences, and in AI related field almost exclusively in conferences (especially in the last 5 years). Top conferences have an acceptance rate of around 20% (for orals it is 1-2%), the review is double-blinded (with 3-5 reviewers), it consists of a rebuttal/revision scheme, and the entire process from submission to proceeding lasts in average 7-8 months (which ironically, can be slower than in top journals). So, while in other fields the conferences are kind of joke (send preliminary work or extended abstracts) in CS they are the most important (and top quality) venues.

In any case, I think my point was more for peer-review in general. At the end, it is a very random process, which to some degree depends on the mood of the reviewer who spends a few hours on that paper. Not bullet-proof, not close. Still better than no review though.

 

[Giggs86]

Not just the English then:

Florida have two things in abundance, spring breakers and old people. A recipe for a disaster.

 

[Prometheus]

Not just the English then:

What's with stupid people and tautologies? From a one minute video:

If I get corona, I get corona.
Whatever happens, happens.
We're just gonna do what happens, when it happens (?)
When stuff closes, we're just gonna do it when it closes. (uh huh?)

I don't even know what the last two mean (what a mind on that guy).

 

[Sweet Square]

grim.

 

[Kag]

I'll be in work also. I'll be in work throughout this. I just have had many years having people in teaching telling me how important they are and acting like nobody can possibly have a more difficult job. I'm sure you are not like that and I know not all teachers are like that but feck me I've met many like it.

I’m not belittling or generalising your profession; so whether you go to work on Monday or not doesn’t concern me.

Teaching is a difficult job. In isolation, that isn’t an unreasonable remark. It can also be a brilliant job, something I’ve sat and reflected on over the past week or so.

In addition, I’m not sure why you had a problem with teachers being described as ‘key workers’? I know lots of teaching couples that have children. Their children need safe provision while they go to work to teach and support local communities.

 

[RedSky]

grim.

Worth pointing out that despite it being removed, it was reinstated because of the amount of customers wanting to donate.

 

[golden_blunder]

Near our house is a gate leading to a park, which people walk through to get to the nearest Aldi.
Got WhatsApp messages today saying that there were 2 teenage girls blocking the gate in such a way that people had to squeeze past them. When people did squeeze past the girls deliberately coughed in peoples faces. Scumbags! Wtf is wrong with people??

 

[The Firestarter]

There is actually some junk in top venues, but most are fine (but hardly advance the field), and a tiny minority which are awesome. In venues with binary choices (accept/reject) like conferences in CS (conferences in CS are more important than journals and have a lengthy double-blinded review process, similar to journals in other fields), the bulk of the papers are in the category of okay, and with the review process very random http://blog.mrtz.org/2014/12/15/the-nips-experiment.html

I have seen papers getting orals in top conferences (acceptance rate of orals is typically 1-2%) being absolute junk, there are papers who get rejected to later get a best paper award and so on.

Peer-review is better than no review, but in the end, it is hardly fault-proof (or anywhere near that).

If I remember correctly the first YOLO paper was rejected for publication which struck me as a bit odd.

 

[golden_blunder]

I hope our network providers can support the surge in home internet use, particularly with the kids now going to be at home too...

My VM connection has been playing up the last few days

 

[horsechoker]

Near our house is a gate leading to a park, which people walk through to get to the nearest Aldi.
Got WhatsApp messages today saying that there were 2 teenage girls blocking the gate in such a way that people had to squeeze past them. When people did squeeze past the girls deliberately coughed in peoples faces. Scumbags! Wtf is wrong with people??

Couldn't that be classed as attempted murder?

 

[golden_blunder]

Couldn't that be classed as attempted murder?

Don’t know, guess it would be hard to prove that you got infected specifically from them

 

[Rhyme Animal]

Near our house is a gate leading to a park, which people walk through to get to the nearest Aldi.
Got WhatsApp messages today saying that there were 2 teenage girls blocking the gate in such a way that people had to squeeze past them. When people did squeeze past the girls deliberately coughed in peoples faces. Scumbags! Wtf is wrong with people??

Can't imagine they'll be doing that for too long before going home with broken noses.

 

[golden_blunder]

Can't imagine they'll be doing that for too long before going home with broken noses.

They cleared off when they realized someone was trying to get a picture of them