Yeah, I think we're just not keeping an up to date account of the seriously ill. We've also only got 135 recoveries which seems a bit....strange. Would be nice to see that figure rising regularly.
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Yeah, I think we're just not keeping an up to date account of the seriously ill. We've also only got 135 recoveries which seems a bit....strange. Would be nice to see that figure rising regularly.
Thanks, Uk is definitely struggling here then.
Basic question, but antibody testing aside, at 80,000 per day, and the Uk's 100,000 target, who are they aiming to test, there surely can't be this number displaying symptoms on a daily basis?
Is this not massive news? How easy is it to produce new oxygen for hospitals? Could it happen nationwide?
As I understand it, we seem to be very much in control of the situation at the moment. And since Denmark is still catching up, they figured the money is better spent there.
It's just a raw analysis of the facts. Today there's been 4,313 deaths, on the 1st April there were 2,352 deaths, on 29th March there were 1,228 deaths, on the 26th March there were 578 deaths. At this stage (18 days after 100 deaths were recored) there were more overall deaths in Spain (7,716) and Italy (4,825) but irrespective of the absolute difference, in both countries the expontential growth had slowed in a way it hasn't in the UK. It took Spain 5 days to double from 3,647 (on 25th March) to 7,716 (30th March), and it took 4 days for Italy to double from 2,503 (17th March) to 4,825 (21st March).
It has generally been the case that as the number of new cases has slowed, a similar drop in the number of new cases follows 2-3 days later in Spain and Italy. Though obviously the comparison is limited by the variations driven by testing capacity.
Several vaccines have already been found, with at least one of them having been administered to a few humans a few weeks ago. Still, the forecast is 12-18 months to be able to start doing mass vaccinations (assuming the testing stage goes well).
And even when vaccination starts, I guess that first there are gonna get vaccinated people in more developed countries, then people in poor countries. At best case the world is gonna get vaccinated by the end of next year, but I wouldn’t be surprised that many countries won’t be able to do it until 2022.
Is your username a Wheel of Time reference?
The UK worldometer figures for critical cases and recoveries are completely off. Worldometer have it as 163 critical cases but the Intensive Care National Audit and Research Centre have produced a report on 2,249 critically ill patients here, from which 346 died, 344 were discharged and 1,559 remained in intensive care. I don't think the UK have the test capacity to confirm recovered cases according to the international standards but in any case, whatever figures worldometer are using are wrong.
It seems the facebook karens and sharons are trying to perpetuate some nonsense about the virus being fake and that its 5g causing this pandemic.
Dosebags.
Dosebags.
They're burning mobile phone masts in UK. Power to the people!
Yep that’s when ya spot which people on your friends list is a nut job, I have one on my list constantly posting videos and I just laugh at every video to let him know I think he’s an idiot.
Cheers. They're reporting an enormous discrepancy between male and female (73-27).
Italy's cases are down by around 1100 when compared to last Saturday, there's been a spike at the weekends but this week it's quite level. Hopefully this is the beginning of the end.
That does make sense. Glad the doctor's got the money he needs in any case.
The end of the massive onslaught maybe (hopefully), but we’re months and months from the end. Many many more people in Italy will die, there’s no escaping that.
UK is doing no testing. That is the reason why the death rate seems so high.
Yeah that's a given but if Korea is anything to go by, once the numbers drop they drop quickly.The end of the massive onslaught maybe (hopefully), but we’re months and months from the end. Many many more people in Italy will die, there’s no escaping that.
Yeah the gap between men and women has been a pretty consistent finding. Here's a report from Italy, here's an earlier one looking at Germany, Italy and Spain and a smaller study among those in Hubei.
We have no idea what the denominator is. The actual CFR is much, much lower than 10%.
Yes indeed.
The QE2 was a bigger and better hospital than Lister in Stevenage, but I believe the government felt that there was greater capacity for expansion in Stevenage.
Now towns in Hertfordshire like Potters Bar, Hatfield Welwyn Garden City, Hertford, Ware, St Albans, Watford, Redbourn, Harpenden, Stevenage, Hitchin, Letchworth, Royston, and all the rural villages all have to cope with one major hospital - Lister hospital in Stevenage, with help from Addenbrooks (Cambridgeshire), and the Princess Alexandra hospital in Harlow (Essex).
In late 2016 I had a major back injury. I was put into a temporary ward in Lister, and told by someone who was supposed to be one of the best spine specialists in Hertfordshire that I would be fine, and that I would need to be instructed in physio exercises, and released to go home. When another specialist saw me the next morning, he told me that I needed surgery to fix a moving vertebrae. They kept changing their mind whether I should be transferred to Addenbrooks in Cambridgeshire, or have the surgery at Lister. The NHS in Hertfordshire is a disaster.
Oslo, Norway; today :
Unbelievable.
Unbelievable.
The Koreans kept quarantine and self isolation as a religion. No one can get away with it.
Korea is nothing to go by though as they’ve been at trace level all along and the highest number of deaths they have ever had in a day is 9.
That aint happening in the majority of European countries, it’s just too widespread.
Oslo, Norway; today :
Unbelievable.
I thought you guys were on lockdown?
Oslo, Norway; today :
Unbelievable.
Is that really from today?
Saw a picture from Torgalmenningen in Bergen about two weeks ago, around 3pm, and it was totally empty.
People in Bergen are smarter than in Oslo, which most of us knew, but now we got a proof
Did China donate 1,000 ventilators to New York? I saw in the news.
Yep. Founder of Alibaba and a couple others
I don't know, let me ask China.
More important i think is that 74 fewer people are today in intensive care than yesterday in Italy. First day since the outbreak its going down, and if its continue it gives the hospital some much needed breathing room.
Well, it's not enforced through police or military sevices etc. but it was not supposed to be like this. Like Sweden, people was to adhere to the guidelines and rules. Obviously not working in Oslo.
Today, yes, from Vg.no.Is that really from today?
Saw a picture from Torgalmenningen in Bergen about two weeks ago, around 3pm, and it was totally empty.
People in Bergen are smarter than in Oslo, which most of us knew, but now we got a proof
Hehe luckily for me I am a Trønder. well that felt strange to write in english
No wonder the epicenter is in the south, most people there, and yeah, obviously a lot more stupid folks too
First they clap for the nurses some weeks ago and now this. Lets have another round, please!
A good friend of mine has made a song about staying at home. He is a famous musician in his own country. Am I allowed to put a link here? Mods please let me know.
Well, it's not enforced through police or military sevices etc. but it was not supposed to be like this. Like Sweden, people was to adhere to the guidelines and rules. Obviously not working in Oslo.
Today, yes, from Vg.no.
Hehe luckily for me I am a Trønder. well that felt strange to write in english
No wonder the epicenter is in the south, most people there, and yeah, obviously a lot more stupid folks too
First they clap for the nurses some weeks ago and now this. Lets have another round, please!
Speaking of VG and tröndere.
https://www.vg.no/nyheter/i/Jo5lLJ/...nes-virker-som-veldig-mange-tar-det-userioest
As a Noggie living in Sweden i am very glad you guys seem to have some sort of control so far at least.
I would very much like to drive home to Oslo in the summer to visit my parentes.
Hehe luckily for me I am a Trønder. well that felt strange to write in english
Sounds weird to pronounce too, to be fair.
Guardian and some others are saying Chinese government now.
France update:
- 4267 new cases.
- 441 new deaths.
- 7560 total deaths; 5532 in hospitals, 2028 in nursing homes and the rest from other structures.
Edit: I forgot an important stat, 176 new patients require intensive care, that figure is important because it is by far the lowest addition since March 20th.
- 4267 new cases.
- 441 new deaths.
- 7560 total deaths; 5532 in hospitals, 2028 in nursing homes and the rest from other structures.
Edit: I forgot an important stat, 176 new patients require intensive care, that figure is important because it is by far the lowest addition since March 20th.
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I can see the end of an EU after this. It's everyone for themselves at the minute. Well not everyone but still the cracks are showing.
Why does the worldometer site have the daily deaths at 1053?
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
Listened to this Doctor last night. Very well spoken. Seems very genuine and compassionate.
Yeh, seems to me the stats in the UK are 10% death rate if you end up in hospital with this.