Cuomo as now dragged his daughter into this with the "boyfriend" . It's like a reality show
SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)
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How does the total death total today compared to last Tuesdays report?
Robert Peston asking how we can bring cumulative deaths down 
UK now officially has the highest death toll in Europe
I've just looked at Germany's figures which say 7,000 and they have a population of 83 million. Genuine question for anyone but what's been the biggest factor in the difference?
Are they reporting their figures in line with other big European countries?
Have noticed car use rising a lot and hardly anyone walking about or jogging today even though it's a nice day again. We've had 2-3 weeks of good weather so maybe most have got bored of going on walks and exercising and decided driving to other places? Evening and night is still very quiet though.
Italy and Spain still have to announce large amount of care home deaths. UK has done a batch of them which added thousands extra and also include community deaths. I read Italy was estimated to be 40k weeks ago but there's a huge backlog to work through. Barcelona have 3500 to announce.
Italy and Spain still have to announce large amount of care home deaths. UK has done a batch of them which added thousands extra and also include community deaths. I read Italy was estimated to be 40k weeks ago but there's a huge backlog to work through. Barcelona have 3500 to announce.
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Deaths per head or excess deaths would be a far better metric than simply total deaths. Media will frenzy over the death toll being highest in Europe.
Total deaths is by far the most clean cut and unbiased metric there is. Everything else is liable to distort the picture when comparing countries. Although differences in how deaths are tracked/reported still make it problematic.
That's the first time she's impressed me. I always vote Labour so I always voted for Sadiq Khan when he was Tooting representative but I didn't think much of her when she replaced him (though obviously voted for her too). She's finally shown some substance, both for risking her health as well as standing up to yet another Tory cock. Well done Rosena.
Was feeling absolutely fine this morning and even went for a walk at lunch time. Then over the course of the afternoon have slowly started to feel lethargic and hot/cold and a bit “off” (technical term).
Just took my temp - 38.8°c
Just took my temp - 38.8°c
I can't agree there. Every country measures their total deaths differently. Belgium, for example, includes deaths in care homes where Covid-19 is expected, but not confirmed. That gives them a significantly high death toll than, say, if they used Italy's definition of a death by Covid-19. Then you take into context variables like the size of cities, age of population etc. and it becomes an overly simplistic number that doesn't really mean anything.
Per head at the very least puts the number in relative terms.
Ah shit bud. Get to a doc and get checked out early.Was feeling absolutely fine this morning and even went for a walk at lunch time. Then over the course of the afternoon have slowly started to feel lethargic and hot/cold and a bit “off” (technical term).
Just took my temp - 38.8°c
They already do (in the EU):
https://www.transportenvironment.org/what-we-do/flying-and-climate-change/aviation-ets
I watched the pathetic Corona Virus update from Dominic Rabb.
Firstly I struggle to believe the 80,000 + covid tests.
Home testing is a significant contribution. And yet, on the Government website where you order the home test kits showed they were unavailable until yesterday afternoon.
Regarding the Contract Tracking app. He was asked why the UK has decided to develop its own and not use a standard system.
To this, he answered the the UK 'has the highest standards'.
So, the rest of the world has lower standards....
He talked about wanting the UK to provide its own due to the security aspect.
This from a government who ignored the advice of many other countries by allowing Huawei to work on the 5G network.
Firstly I struggle to believe the 80,000 + covid tests.
Home testing is a significant contribution. And yet, on the Government website where you order the home test kits showed they were unavailable until yesterday afternoon.
Regarding the Contract Tracking app. He was asked why the UK has decided to develop its own and not use a standard system.
To this, he answered the the UK 'has the highest standards'.
So, the rest of the world has lower standards....
He talked about wanting the UK to provide its own due to the security aspect.
This from a government who ignored the advice of many other countries by allowing Huawei to work on the 5G network.
Was feeling absolutely fine this morning and even went for a walk at lunch time. Then over the course of the afternoon have slowly started to feel lethargic and hot/cold and a bit “off” (technical term).
Just took my temp - 38.8°c
My very best wishes to you and cross fingers it is nothing to worry about.
NHS advice is to avoid docs surgeries with a fever, to take paracetamol and drink plenty of fluids.
No other symptoms so just gonna follow that.
Cheers mate sure it will be.
Was feeling absolutely fine this morning and even went for a walk at lunch time. Then over the course of the afternoon have slowly started to feel lethargic and hot/cold and a bit “off” (technical term).
Just took my temp - 38.8°c
Get yourself a test booked my man!
It will indeed. Meanwhile I’m taking these claims re herd immunity with a massive pinch of salt. Completely contradicts all available data on mortality from every other country.
Let’s just hope they don’t issue a press release announcing herd immunity after they’ve tested their first 100 patients!
Anyway, herd immunity long term issue. So not important now. Main thing is you’ve loads of ICU beds still available. Which is good to see.
Karolinska did this again for Stockholm region @Pogue Mahone with average testing day 11th April, so not too far off the original findings. 10% had the virus then.
https://www.kth.se/en/aktuellt/nyheter/10-procent-av-stockholmarna-smittade-1.980727
Should give FHM alot of confidence in their model’s 26% prediction for Stockholm Region in early May.
Assorted insights from aviation/aerospace industry
1. Business travel will be permanently altered, with many companies successfully adapting to a "work remote" culture. Ultimately airlines that rely on business travel to fill high value seats will be inpacted.
2. With a lot of people worldwide entering economic uncertainty there will simply be less demand for air travel. Additional squeeze on the airlines, some of who were struggling pre Corona
3. Airframers and major subcontractors to airframers are already being impacted. Boeing and Embraer's merger fell apart, Spirit Aerostructures and GE Aviation announcing layoffs, Airbus pushing out demand. Companies that are overly leveraged in the commercial sector (as opposed to having significant work in the defense sector) will feel the pain more. And layoffs will have an impact on the job market and economic health.
4. Long story short: too early to say with confidence whether ticket prices will rise across the board... If demand remains anemic then prices will have to adjust to meet that. But the number of flights will definitely reduce. Lufthansa for example have said they will come out of this a leaner fleet. Less flexibility in airline routes and times. Definitely an increase in prices on routes with little competition, as much as the market can bear.
The UK numbers are pretty bad considering they had more time to take action than Spain or Italy, even if the true numbers of Spain and Italy are much higher it doesn't negate the fact that the government dropped the ball. Many countries across Europe had more or less the same time to prepare and they have dealt with it much better when you consider the circumstances.
Edit: I should also add that people have to take accountability for this too, all those who were flouting the rules, going down the pub, carrying on as normal and then spreading it friends and relatives. The ones who didn't take it seriously, said it was just a flu etc. There's only so much a government can do but if people aren't don't cooperate then they undermine everything.
Edit: I should also add that people have to take accountability for this too, all those who were flouting the rules, going down the pub, carrying on as normal and then spreading it friends and relatives. The ones who didn't take it seriously, said it was just a flu etc. There's only so much a government can do but if people aren't don't cooperate then they undermine everything.
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Or a professional footballer
If fuel prices remain stupidly low then we will see early retirements of older, fuel inefficient planes to get newer planes which are way more efficient, and which the airliners will be selling at significant discounts either up front or on the back end wrt maintenance.
And people think the government has done well. I honestly cannot understand people.
Well, good luck.
Well said.
The olds couldn't be happier with the government at the moment,
The way that leading question is phrased is terrible. "For oppositions sake", surely during anytime people wouldn't want opposition just for the sake of it.
Magic money tree appeared. I agree with the furlough policy, one of the only things they got right.
Yep. Bloody ridiculous levels of bias.
Is there cigarette and alcohol sales during this pandemic in your country?
This seems to be have been done to the city 1.2m, not the region 2.4m. Unless I missunderstood. For the city it seems plausible.
Yes, we are not animals. The queues for cigarettes are ridiculous though.
I don't get the incentive to retire less efficient planes while fuel prices are low. Surely high fuel prices would provide a kick up the backside with regards to getting more fuel efficient planes out there.
10% seems about right for the centre of an epidemic. It was 14% in the worst affected German town.
I don’t understand why high prevalence in a city would be cause for optimism. Unless you can somehow completely isolate that city from the rest of the country. Which would cause almost as much trauma for citizens than the most stringent lockdown measures.
I’m actually starting to wonder if all that matters in terms of how close we are to herd immunity. is prevalence throughout Europe, seeing as the European economy is so dependent on freedom of movement.
Well, we know the deaths, Sweden reports quite accurately. More actual cases leads to lower IFR. Sweden is going for the herd immunity in a controlled way, they don't specificly state that, and it is a little more complicated, but in short, it seems to be their strategy.
The test they fecked up was for the region so it’d be rather odd to then just do the city.
I can’t find the actual info to confirm or not, but so far everything has been region based, I’ve heard no individual “city” information in any field.
Yeah, big increase on Alcohol sales last month as well due every one being locked in, same goes for fresh meats as well with all of the lockdown BBQ's.
Well the higher the prevalence, the lower the mortality rate no?
Yup, but they mentioned a population of 1.22m in that article. A bit confusing.
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