I guess there would be a self-regulating thing, where you would only share a table with people from your own household/bubble/permitted social grouping? You're average sloaney social butterfly is going to struggle with that though.
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I guess there would be a self-regulating thing, where you would only share a table with people from your own household/bubble/permitted social grouping? You're average sloaney social butterfly is going to struggle with that though.
Coronavirus: Germany outbreak sparks fresh local lockdown
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-53149762
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-53149762
Lockdown reimposed in a a region of Germany
Poor working and living conditions, sharing cramped accommodation, and likely travelling to work together in shared cars/buses, combined with working in an environment that the virus is very happy in (cold, low humidity) seems like a horrible combination really. I doubt the meat itself has much to do with it.
me neither.
But my employer are still making me go in from June 29th.
Time to brush up the CV.
I hope that they are testing the meat connection.
Being said that their latest outbreak was an older European strain that may have come in on frozen goods. Frozen meat perhaps?
Someone clue me in on this wonder drug that everyone is talking about and stockpiling?
France did this, with sets of rules about tables being 2m apart but then people sat together supposedly keeping 1m apart but doing what they want basically. Also people walking around including going to the loo having to wear masks, but not customers sat at tables.
In reality its bollocks. When you put 2 tables 2m apart and then put chairs around them the distance between the people sat at different tables is probably under 1m in reality, and once the beer starts flowing all the stuff about masks on the way to the toilets and suchlike goes completely out the window.
If you're worried about social distancing then a pub is the last place you want to be.
Doubt it has anything with the meat. Meat factories aren't very automated and tend to have high densities of workers and work practices that don't lend themselves to distancing.
Who is the knob in the commons shouting "hallelujah" when Boris announced pubs can reopen?
Why are muppets shouting “hallelujah” in Parliament?! You’d think they’d just been freed from internment camps.
When a relative of mine worked in a 'chicken factory', they said the conditions were horrifically unhealthy/insanitary.
Borris out there opening everything 
@Pogue Mahone saw your original deleted post. Is it proven or just opinion? The scientists in Bejing the other day were suggesting that their recent outbreak could have come in frozen food from Europe
They should try being a cleaner in the bogs at my last place of work
If it's 1m, you might as well not bother. That's pretty much normal beyond hugging and kissing someone.
They'd kill us all just to keep their donors contented.
Our only reality is a whack-a-mole approach going forward. I highly doubt if any country will every be completely free unless they isolate themselves from the rest of the world.
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Which works if you have a contract tracing App and effective testing process. It‘s far too late if you’re relying on after the fact data like we are in the UK.
Christ:
'Gareth Johnson, a Conservative, asks Johnson to encourage people to “do their patriotic best for Britain” and go to the pub.'
'Gareth Johnson, a Conservative, asks Johnson to encourage people to “do their patriotic best for Britain” and go to the pub.'
I just cannot believe this government is still standing. Then again, perhaps I can ~
"Good news!", says Johnson, "While we might've been responsible for the deaths of your grandparents, I'm sure you'll forgive us now that I announce: we've given you your pubs back!"
"Three cheers for the world-beating government!" shouts a Conservative MP.
"I heartily endorse this event or product," says government science adviser.
'Independence Day! Bozza and Blighty bounce back!' says the Telegraph.
'Opinion: Is death actually all that bad?' asks the BBC's political editor.
'Thank u Boris,' tweets an imbecile.
"Good news!", says Johnson, "While we might've been responsible for the deaths of your grandparents, I'm sure you'll forgive us now that I announce: we've given you your pubs back!"
"Three cheers for the world-beating government!" shouts a Conservative MP.
"I heartily endorse this event or product," says government science adviser.
'Independence Day! Bozza and Blighty bounce back!' says the Telegraph.
'Opinion: Is death actually all that bad?' asks the BBC's political editor.
'Thank u Boris,' tweets an imbecile.
Novak Djokovic tests positive
https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-novak-djokovic-tests-positive-for-covid-19-12013201
https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-novak-djokovic-tests-positive-for-covid-19-12013201
This sh*t is unbelievable:
Guardian said:
You against the re-opening of pubs mate?
It's not so much that, but the way in which Johnson & co cast any doubters as unpatriotic which I find offensive.
The general rule of the right is everyone should just be positive about decisions we make and everyone should be outraged about decisions Labour make. It's useful because it rules out any critique of bad policy.
Labour can't try the same trick because they're expected to have more substance to any arguments.
Has anyone worked out whether amateur football will now be allowed or not? On the one hand the PM says "Recreation and sport will be allowed, but indoor facilities, including changing rooms and courts, will remain closed" so yippee, yet earlier he also said "Outside, the guidance remains that people from several households can meet in groups of up to six". So does this mean recreation and sport will be allowed, but only for groups up to six? If he does that's not what he said.
I'm fecked if I know. Help.
I'm fecked if I know. Help.
Deleted my post because I was just repeating what @lynchie said. He was spot on. Frozen food wouldn’t be a vector for viruses. I suspect the Beijing scientists were just being leaned on to find a way to blame Europe for their outbreak. That salmon theory never came to anything anyway.
Woooooo! 4th of July, our very own independence day. Woooo! Freedom!!!!
Prozzies are ok then?
I think its important to note (as much for people's mental health as anything else) that the social distance we've set in this country is towards the longer end of the scale and many countries, including those which are seen to have done a good job so far, have theirs set at 1m or 1.5m. There are very few countries doing a blanket 2m anymore.
I appreciate that the problem is partly because they've bungled quite a few things and so it becomes difficult to trust anything they're saying or doing.
I appreciate that the problem is partly because they've bungled quite a few things and so it becomes difficult to trust anything they're saying or doing.
No 10 scraps daily coronavirus press conference after today
'The UK government has just announced that, after today, it is giving up its daily coronavirus press conference. But it says the data usually published in the daily slides will continue to be published daily every week day.
It will still hold press conferences for “significant announcements”, it says.
Boris Johnson is taking today’s press conference, which will be the last one.'
(Guardian)
'The UK government has just announced that, after today, it is giving up its daily coronavirus press conference. But it says the data usually published in the daily slides will continue to be published daily every week day.
It will still hold press conferences for “significant announcements”, it says.
Boris Johnson is taking today’s press conference, which will be the last one.'
(Guardian)
Brexit lasted over 3 years. Then on the very day it ended (Independence Day 31 January 2020) the UK had it's very first covid-19 case.
It's almost like the universe wanted to ensure that we'd stumble from one shitstorm directly into another.
If 4 July is going to be our next Independence Day, I think I might start hoarding toilet paper before whatever comes the next day.
Yeah I get that. To be honest though I've just stopped listening to them now, I just take my own precautions for myself and my family/kids.
Regarding the decisions made from the govt. Could there be any comeback for Boris and his cronies on how the pandemic has been 'handled' here in the UK, from a legal perspective?
I mean, surely, there is some form of protection for the population against what some may call lack of due care and attention. A type of manslaughter if you will.
I know that sounds super dramatic to some but when you think about the fact we knew early what was going on in China and how it was spreading and killing across Italy etc, yet Bojo and his clowns delayed lockdown and didn't attempt from the outset to contain the country being as though we are a feckin' island after all.
I just think the initial poor decision making and the delay to act constitutes more than 'dithering' as it directly cost lives. That's before the whole care home system for the elderly and the disgraceful mishandling of that leading to deaths in the elderly and most vulnerable
Then the PPE situation. The farcical tracking app. The lack of testing.
There is literally no positive where you can say, 'in fairness Bojo did well on that aspect of it.' Nothing.
Surely if we were talking about a factory that had caused the deaths of workers for lack of health and safety (as an example) the people in charge would be looking at manslaughter charges. Why then should there be no form of retrospective legal action for this?
Sorry if it's been discussed, I haven't been a regular on this thread.
For those of you in Blighty, the last Lies at Five airs tonight. Don't miss it!
That sounded like utter bullshit. Most likely China trying to hide that they didn't eradicate it as they claimed.
They've long proven that they can get away with virtually anything, mate, so I don't hold out much hope.
I think also some good news and bad news recently in terms of how we're seeing the spread happen again. Quite a few weeks on now from when some countries started to open up again or people went out protesting/ celebrating various things, without a huge spike in cases (so far). But we are starting to see some local outbreaks in countries which have so far done a good job.
I do think sadly we'll probably continue to see these localised outbreaks popping up, especially in countries in Europe for instance which are so interconnected now. Hopefully localised responses, if done quickly enough, will be sufficient to control these.
On a less important note, Djokovic has been humbled regarding his stupid decision to run the tennis tournament and how he and other players conducted themselves whilst there. Idiots.
I do think sadly we'll probably continue to see these localised outbreaks popping up, especially in countries in Europe for instance which are so interconnected now. Hopefully localised responses, if done quickly enough, will be sufficient to control these.
On a less important note, Djokovic has been humbled regarding his stupid decision to run the tennis tournament and how he and other players conducted themselves whilst there. Idiots.
Yeah as I typed I was resigning myself to there being absolutely nothing done. Perhaps a 'public enquiry' which will drag on for 6 years, cost millions and they will get away with nothing whatsoever being done.
Then people will be expected to vote, quite literally what is the point if that's what we are voting for. I'd rather a dictatorship than to vote for that bumbling scruffy buffoon.