SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)

BBC: The areas going to tier four from Thursday are:
  • Leicester City
  • Leicestershire (Oadby and Wigston, Harborough, Hinckley and Bosworth, Blaby, Charnwood, North West Leicestershire, Melton)
  • Lincolnshire (City of Lincoln, Boston, South Kesteven, West Lindsey, North Kesteven, South Holland, East Lindsey)
  • Northamptonshire (Corby, Daventry, East Northamptonshire, Kettering, Northampton, South Northamptonshire, Wellingborough)
  • Derby and Derbyshire (Derby, Amber Valley, South Derbyshire, Bolsover, North East Derbyshire, Chesterfield, Erewash, Derbyshire Dales, High Peak)
  • Nottingham and Nottinghamshire (Gedling, Ashfield, Mansfield, Rushcliffe, Bassetlaw, Newark and Sherwood, Nottinghamshire, Broxtowe)
  • Birmingham and Black Country (Dudley, Birmingham, Sandwell, Walsall, Wolverhampton)
  • Coventry
  • Solihull
  • Warwickshire (Rugby, Nuneaton and Bedworth, Warwick, North Warwickshire, Stratford-upon-Avon)
  • Staffordshire and Stoke-on-Trent (East Staffordshire, Stafford, South Staffordshire, Cannock Chase, Lichfield, Staffordshire Moorlands, Newcastle under Lyme, Tamworth, Stoke-on-Trent)
  • Lancashire (Burnley, Pendle, Blackburn with Darwen, Ribble Valley, Blackpool, Preston, Hyndburn, Chorley, Fylde, Lancaster, Rossendale, South Ribble, West Lancashire, Wyre)
  • Cheshire and Warrington (Cheshire East, Cheshire West and Chester, Warrington)
  • Cumbria (Eden, Carlisle, South Lakeland, Barrow-in-Furness, Copeland, Allerdale)
  • Greater Manchester (Bolton, Bury, Manchester, Oldham, Rochdale, Salford, Stockport, Tameside, Trafford, Wigan)
  • Tees Valley (Darlington, Hartlepool, Middlesbrough, Redcar and Cleveland, Stockton-on-Tees )
  • North East (County Durham, Gateshead, Newcastle-upon-Tyne, North Tyneside, Northumberland, South Tyneside, Sunderland)
  • Gloucestershire (Gloucester, Forest of Dean, Cotswolds, Tewkesbury, Stroud, Cheltenham)
  • Somerset Council (Mendip, Sedgemoor, Somerset West and Taunton, South Somerset)
  • Swindon
  • Bournemouth, Christchurch and Poole
  • Isle of Wight
  • New Forest
 
How is Cornwall being moved to tier 3 when the rate is lower than when most places were tier 2?

It's not just the case rate. Theres a number of other criteria

Case rates in the over 60's
Case rates raising or falling
Positive cases relative to tests
Pressure on local NHS services
 
How is Cornwall being moved to tier 3 when the rate is lower than when most places were tier 2?

To do with care no? They dont have same hospital capacity that other areas have.

So it seems some way off the 2 million a week figure branded about. I doubt in the second week there will be that many

And is that doses given everyone needs two? The roll out of this is going to be painfully slow.
 
is that doses given everyone needs two? The roll out of this is going to be painfully slow.

I think they said on Oxford it's 1 dose with the second being up to 12 weeks later. Either way, it will be slow.

Hancock hasn't helped himself by saying several times today Spring looks good for 'freedom'
 
To do with care no? They dont have same hospital capacity that other areas have.



And is that doses given everyone needs two? The roll out of this is going to be painfully slow.
Think they have said that it will be going on into the early months of next year.
 
I think they said on Oxford it's 1 dose with the second being up to 12 weeks later. Either way, it will be slow.

Hancock hasn't helped himself by saying several times today Spring looks good for 'freedom'

Yep this lot learn nothing!
 
Absolute cnuts. I had a driving test booked for tomorrow which I needed to take because I'm moving.

Not expecting anybody to sympathise but ffs.
 
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Think they have said that it will be going on into the early months of next year.

Yeah, a family member who works on ICU in manc just had her 1st dose and she reckons most of 2021 will be needed. I know as more and more get the vaccine things will slowly return to the new normal but not sure I can handle another year of this.
 
So basically the South has fecked everyone over. Nice one.

Shouldn't have been kept in 2 for so long. Absolutely ridiculous and now everyone is going to pay the price with this new lockdown marketed as 'tier 4' irrespective of their infection rates.
 
I think it’s more about what you could have done given the opportunity. His kids are safe now.

Appreciate the laugh because I'm fairly peeved right now. I had my original test booked in April which got rescheduled for October. Failed and had it booked in for this month.

I live in Leicester so this whole thing has been a calamity for me (much as it has been for everyone else of course but for us... ever so slightly longer).

I know people are dying and I agree restrictions are needed but still :(
 
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Tier 4 in Birmingham is a must, seen countless videos of the Bullring looking like. . . a cattle market.

National lockdown incoming.
 
Is there still a Boris announcement at 5? If so is he expected to announce anything new or just rehash what Hancock has said?
 
Is there still a Boris announcement at 5? If so is he expected to announce anything new or just rehash what Hancock has said?

He won't announce anything new, it'll be a TV version of what was heard in the commons earlier.
 
Yeah, a family member who works on ICU in manc just had her 1st dose and she reckons most of 2021 will be needed. I know as more and more get the vaccine things will slowly return to the new normal but not sure I can handle another year of this.
I know how you feel. It feel like some scary parallel universe.
 
Yeah, a family member who works on ICU in manc just had her 1st dose and she reckons most of 2021 will be needed. I know as more and more get the vaccine things will slowly return to the new normal but not sure I can handle another year of this.

I'm not saying they're wrong but it is easy to see the worst case scenario when youre in the middle of the fire.

I think once lockdown takes effect, followed by vaccines, followed by coming out of winter, we'll see a dramatic improvement in our lives.

Travel won't be back to normal, things will operate at lower capacity but our every day lives will seem quite normal again, seeing family etc.
 
Bristol still in Tier 3 somehow.
 
You could see tier 4 coming for northern areas when you saw pictures of all those people "fleeing" London when that went tier 4

How confusing for primary schools- those in tier 4 may be open, but some may not be, list to be published later, how stressful for teachers/ headteachers etc knowing what to do and plan for
 


I've imagined the same thing due to wording. Tier 4 sounds less aggressive than lockdown so I think they'll run with that for a while.

I reckon they'll be very cautious about pushing tiers down unless there's a dramatic turn of events, and I don't assume there will be.
 
Bristol still in Tier 3 somehow.

Massive pain in the arse for me. I’ve been down in cornwall with my Dad since my Mum passed away early last month and I’ve promised him I’m here as long as he needs me. My partner has been working remotely from cornwall too but is needed in Bristol in the next couple of weeks which means she’s going to have to go back home on her own. We were hoping it would be in Tier 4 so she wouldn’t be able to do what was needed of her (organise a product testing with local businesses) but as Bristol is somehow avoiding Tier 4 she’s likely going to be under pressure to return home and be stuck there on her own which I’m really not comfortable with.

Worst of it all is that my Dad while fine for the most part has early stages of Alzheimer’s and isn’t entirely confident in cooking for himself and is very sociable with a good network around a couple of local pubs which are now shut. So I’m very much between a rock and a hard place. My partner is very cool and completely understands but it doesn’t really make it any easier seeing her go off to be stuck on her own for god knows how long.

feck this virus in particular.
 
Probably a stupid question but why don't they start using the hospitals they built during the initial wave- they have them so why not use them, then where possible use the hospitals local to them for "everyday" emergencies, anything COVID related goes straight to the purpose built hospitals?
 
Massive pain in the arse for me. I’ve been down in cornwall with my Dad since my Mum passed away early last month and I’ve promised him I’m here as long as he needs me. My partner has been working remotely from cornwall too but is needed in Bristol in the next couple of weeks which means she’s going to have to go back home on her own. We were hoping it would be in Tier 4 so she wouldn’t be able to do what was needed of her (organise a product testing with local businesses) but as Bristol is somehow avoiding Tier 4 she’s likely going to be under pressure to return home and be stuck there on her own which I’m really not comfortable with.

Worst of it all is that my Dad while fine for the most part has early stages of Alzheimer’s and isn’t entirely confident in cooking for himself and is very sociable with a good network around a couple of local pubs which are now shut. So I’m very much between a rock and a hard place. My partner is very cool and completely understands but it doesn’t really make it any easier seeing her go off to be stuck on her own for god knows how long.

feck this virus in particular.

Sorry to hear about your mum and dad, could your dad go stay with you both in Bristol for a bit or would that make it harder for him? Least then you'd be with your partner but also still able to look after him?
 
Sorry to hear about your mum and dad, could your dad go stay with you both in Bristol for a bit or would that make it harder for him? Least then you'd be with your partner but also still able to look after him?

We live in a tiny one bed flat so it just wouldn’t work. We’re currently purchasing a two bed house but realistically its going to be months before the chain completes, probably longer now. If that was to go through it would solve the issue but until then it’s a shitter.
 
Detailing the closure of certain primary schools in parliament and not having the list ready to release to the public (and the bloody schools themselves!) is peak Gavin Williamson.
 
Detailing the closure of certain primary schools in parliament and not having the list ready to release to the public (and the bloody schools themselves!) is peak Gavin Williamson.

Feel for the teachers etc, surely the list should go live as the announcement is made, they need to know if they're going live lessons or not- even if it was tier 4= virtual lessons only, bar vulnerable children/ exam years- you'd think schools would have identified those pupils who's parents don't have access to equipment for virtual learning so those children can either be leant equipment, or included in the vulnerable group in schools

Some tier 4 having live lessons, others being virtual is clear as mud...