SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)
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47k new cases
1564 deaths - highest single day deaths ever
R rate is between 1.0 and 1.4
from Sky News
Anyone getting a little annoyed by Mid-Feb date being used a lot. When we get closer to it, a lot of people will think restrictions are about to release and the Government will be inviting more pressure onto them to relax some rules imo.
1564 deaths - highest single day deaths ever
R rate is between 1.0 and 1.4
from Sky News
Anyone getting a little annoyed by Mid-Feb date being used a lot. When we get closer to it, a lot of people will think restrictions are about to release and the Government will be inviting more pressure onto them to relax some rules imo.
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I'm a bit confused how the R rate has been constantly above 1 for the last few weeks yet new cases show the first signs of falling due (I'm hoping) to the newest lockdown procedures. Surely a rate higher than 1 would signify no reduction in cases whatsoever theoretically?
Wait. there is a new variant? What happened to the SA variant?
Does anyone else think it's still busy on the roads, despite the stay at home advice?
No idea, haven't been on them.
Apparently. It’s news to me also.
Classic case of this Government over promising and under delivering, and then wondering why people arent paying much attention to their restrictions. They dig their own holes at every step, which then loses them credibility when they say something that actually is important.
Yes, much more than first lockdown.
Yep, there is a mcdonalds drive through next door to me, and every single evening about 5ish the main road is blocked with cars trying to get in there.
Still there, of the three it's still considered the worst as it's believed to be more infectious like the UK's, and like Brazil's it has changes to the structure that associated with vaccination issues. So far the lab experiments seem to suggest that the current vaccines work fine even against those strains, so they're mostly theoretical concerns, while PHE are downgrading their estimates for the increased infectiousness of this new strain yet again, this time to 0.3 - 0.5. No catastrophes, just concerns to monitor and understand. We're actually fortunate to have discovered these three meaningful mutations in such a short period of time. You'd expect there to be mutations in e.g. the US that people just haven't noticed yet, because they're doing so much less genetic testing and their public health resources are occupied with other things.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/09/world/europe/coronavirus-mutations.html?action=click&module=Top Stories&pgtype=Homepage
The Japanese health ministry are downplaying the variant at the moment but it is a troubling coincidence that they've detected this variant at the same time they see another spike in cases.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/...nt-found-travelers-brazil-japan-says-n1253655
No surprises though, a lot more businesses were closed in the first lockdown than there is now.
There are thousands. Viruses mutate all the time, and the 'best' ones take over. There are a handful that cause concern, the UK, SA and now this Brazilian one being the current focuses. There will certainly be others still to come but it would take something unusual for one to defeat the vaccine.
You have to wonder if all these new variants are being discovered now because everyone is doing a better job of screening for new variants after the UK strain scared the shit out of them?
Italy had 15,774 new cases today, 507 new deaths. We have a new emergency decree being announced in the next day or two, and it looks like take-away food will have to stop at 6pm, rather than 10pm. All bars and restaurants have to close at 6pm at present, even in the lowest-risk regions, but this will tighten things even more.
We still have the curfew from 10pm to 5am, which has been in place for ages now.
Some good news is that it looks like some regions will be designated "white zones", if the Rt number is under 1 and there are fewer than 50 cases per 100,000 people. In white zones, the intention will be to slowly attempt to return to normal.
Everyone has to stay within their own region, unless they have to work or have some other pressing reason to cross to another region (of course, we have a form we have to complete). The state of emergency will stay in place until the end of April, which gives the Government the power to make rapid changes to the rules.
We still have the curfew from 10pm to 5am, which has been in place for ages now.
Some good news is that it looks like some regions will be designated "white zones", if the Rt number is under 1 and there are fewer than 50 cases per 100,000 people. In white zones, the intention will be to slowly attempt to return to normal.
Everyone has to stay within their own region, unless they have to work or have some other pressing reason to cross to another region (of course, we have a form we have to complete). The state of emergency will stay in place until the end of April, which gives the Government the power to make rapid changes to the rules.
Another brexit benefit!
Since his affluent and like minded sesh in the pub then
France
23,852 new cases
229 new deaths today
but tougher restrictions coming with curfew starting 6m instead 8pm... Bad idea
Why are they increasing restrictions in Italy/France? Are the numbers not going in the right direction?
For France
2 mars: 2 March
19 mars: 19 March
11 janvier: 11 January
Recenses en 1 semaine: reported in 1 week
Tendance sur deux semaines: trends over 2 weeks
Cas confirmes: confirmed cases
Nouvelles hospitalisations: new hospitalised people
Admissions en reanimation: people - patients admitted to the resuscitation unit,
Deces a l hopital - deaths in hospital (versus deaths of very old people in regulated homes for dependent seniors)
For France
2 mars: 2 March
19 mars: 19 March
11 janvier: 11 January
Recenses en 1 semaine: reported in 1 week
Tendance sur deux semaines: trends over 2 weeks
Cas confirmes: confirmed cases
Nouvelles hospitalisations: new hospitalised people
Admissions en reanimation: people - patients admitted to the resuscitation unit,
Deces a l hopital - deaths in hospital (versus deaths of very old people in regulated homes for dependent seniors)
Thanks. Looks like you did a great job crushing that second wave but going wrong again now. Did they recently ease off the restrictions that were in place over Christmas?
Maybe less testing?
Officially youngest person who I've managed died today. He was stacked, does crossfit regularly, no medical history whatsoever.
41 years of age. Went to ITU 2 weeks ago and has unfortunately died today.
Got to say, not many deaths hits me this badly. I'm in shock. I remember speaking to his wife over the phone when he was still on Optiflow and saying that he was holding his own on that at present. I come in next day and he's been transferred to ITU.
Fourty-fecking-one. None of his "co-morbidities" shit. This man was healthy and fit.
I told myself that I'd restrain from posting in this thread for a while - hence my increased activity in the football forum, but I just couldn't comprehend with this after coming back home.
Stay safe guys. None of this "It's just a poxy virus" or "I don't have any conditions".
41 years of age. Went to ITU 2 weeks ago and has unfortunately died today.
Got to say, not many deaths hits me this badly. I'm in shock. I remember speaking to his wife over the phone when he was still on Optiflow and saying that he was holding his own on that at present. I come in next day and he's been transferred to ITU.
Fourty-fecking-one. None of his "co-morbidities" shit. This man was healthy and fit.
I told myself that I'd restrain from posting in this thread for a while - hence my increased activity in the football forum, but I just couldn't comprehend with this after coming back home.
Stay safe guys. None of this "It's just a poxy virus" or "I don't have any conditions".
Thanks for this stark reminder and really sorry to hear that. Thank you for what you’re doing!
They're not really increasing them, they're just not relaxing what was in place over Christmas. Numbers are fairly precarious at the moment and could go in either direction. Hospital and ICU occupancy is right on the edge of the 30% alert level and the R number is over 1 in some places.
Deaths close to your own age are always hard. Hope you find time for a de-brief with a mentor. Or even a friend. This one will stay with you. The sooner you start to talk it through the better. Take care of yourself.
Are you seeing a similar uptick to those French graphs, despite no relaxation of measures? That fecking sucks. Would make you wonder about how widespread UK variant might be?
It seems to be busier now than it was the whole of December.
Thankfully your Mum has sense and forced you to go against your "feeling" and get tested as you have covid symptoms. Good luck.
The whole testing process took less than 10 mins. Had to sanitise my hands at least 5 times in 5 minutes, they're (rightfully) really taking is super seriously.
Sticking the thing up my nose was no issue.
That's good to hear. Hopefully it comes back negative.
It might be relatively rare but not rare enough for the complacency many seem to be infected with.
The UK variant has been transmitted between people in a Brisbane quarantine hotel. Hundreds now being put back in quarantine or having to stay for another 14 days.
https://www.theguardian.com/austral...ensland-struggles-to-contain-uk-covid-variant
https://www.theguardian.com/austral...ensland-struggles-to-contain-uk-covid-variant
I've had a google to see if you can get it twice and the results were very vague (there's a National Geographic article from last month which says there are 100s of cases of reinfection, considering there have been millions of people infected, that's crazily low).
For that reason there's a small part of me that hopes my test is positive. I barely have any symptoms (bit of a cough, dulled tastebuds).
Eye opening, isn't it?
I remember reading something about some virus in some Chinese city somewhere in some news outlet. You get the vibe. Thought nothing of it.
Did last summer do something in terms of slowing this down? Was the heat helpful at all?
The government says there has been an expansion over the last few days, but it's not done too much to the numbers yet.
We thought so at the time but it doesn’t look great when you see what’s going on in South Africa and how Australia’s struggling to contain outbreaks.
I remember (late Feb/early March) one of the Senior managers at work say I'm telling everyone that this is a dangerous virus, and to take care, and that I was wrong.
Its just like the flu.
Really feel for you. Reading stuff like that is shocking, so no wonder it does affect you. If it didn't, you wouldn't be human.
Take time out when you can, vent if needed, and keep your chin up. The majority of people out there know the good work you guys to and appreciate it.