European Super League

[Valley Blue]

Not often I agree with Gary Neville, but on this occasion, I have too, it’s a fecking disgrace, they don’t give a shit about the fans.
I’m embarrassed my club is involved, I will never attend another game, if this greed fest goes ahead.

 

[SwedishFish]

Sky as in who? Neville? He's not Sky. He works for them currently, but he's a football man through and through.

And Invested in the Salford City project that is currently buying their way towards the Premier League.

 

[Vidyoyo]

Hate this and hate the concept, but Sky acting so scandalised and upset after their own heavy involvement in the current state of football as such a money driven machine can do one. They're just panicking they'll be losing some of their cut

Indeed. Football is full of hypocrites.

 

[pocco]

Yeah I'd be fairly distrustful of outrage from those who have a vested interest in the status quo.

It's what I thought of when I heard how angry Neville was on commentary about it.

Go away with your conspiracy bollocks. Neville is and always will be a Manchester United man.

 

[kidbob]

What you are talking about isn't fairness but equality which isn't how football has ever worked, football has never been fair. Two cities with vastly different populations can't operate with the same budgets unless you artificially create equality which isn't fair for the one that is bigger and wealthier. To be clear I like US sports and their socialist() structure but it's based on varsity teams and the fact that they essentially get the best young players for free while barely spending resources on their developments, professional sports in the US are a business for billionaires and easy way to make hundreds of millions per year. So it's important for them to have an equalitarian system in a closed league because that's where the excitement come from the fact that the worst team can climb the ranks by adding the best rookies to their teams.

But my problem is with the PL and UEFA talking about fairness in their statements? So how is it fair to have a 'European CL' when some nations are regarded as more deserving of spots than others? How is it fair that City can have oil owners but not Newcastle? My problem is that these entities are crying about 'fairness' when their actions have only shown that they don't give a shit about it. My biggest hope is that this Super League doesn't happen but it spurns UEFA and the rest into real change. I'm really only criticising the 'response' from the various authorities about this and laughing about how they have had chances to affect fairness but have done jack shit and are now crying at those going against them.

Edit: I meant to say that I do agree with your point that I was off the mark in my branding of my point and its general ideals. I just hate UEFA and seeing them cry foul using this language amuses me.

 

[TMDaines]

The biggest luddite attitude to change is the belief it is also needed and always good.

The point is that we have been here before with people up in arms about change in football. Senior English footballing stakeholders have a terrible track record in supporting the development of the elite game. If it was up to England, there would have been no World Cup, have been no Euros, have been no European club competitions.

 

[pocco]

And Invested in the Salford City project that is currently buying their way towards the Premier League.

Don't give a shit mate. He'd say the same if Salford City didn't exist.

 

[Zen86]

I’d actually rather United, Liverpool, and the rest of the clubs associated with this were liquidated than go ahead with the Super League. I’m a Man United fan born and bred, but I would sooner see the game I love protected. It’s a make or break moment.

 

[groovyalbert]

So... can anyone make a decent argument in favour for this??

 

[RedDevilRoshi]

This is heartbreaking, I'll probably stop watching football alltogether if this happens...

Don’t blame anyone who does tbf. The sport is just full of corruption and greed.

 

[Chairman Steve]

What does their nationality have to do with it?

Because one would assume that they’re money driven and don’t really give a feck about traditions. I don’t see Joel Glazer absorbing the culture of Manchester in his time here. He’s got his ivory tower in Florida so one would assume if he’s seeing an opportunity to make more money then he‘ll sure as hell take it, rather than he’s some local lad who came out of Moss Side and is going to deny it on the basis that it goes against the traditions.

 

[awop]

Hopefully it goes away as quickly as Big Picture but he's right in essence. This is absolutely shameful and disgusting from these clubs. I'd rather Arsenal got stuck in the Conference League or no European football for 10 years than just get a pass because of our american owner... We're nowhere near good enough to deserve a spot alongside the top clubs at the moment.

 

[mancan92]

Because United have essentially been subsidizing all the other PL clubs for decades due to the unfair EPL money split.

So? Honestly who cares

The irony.

Sky go to the usual adverts at half time. Talk about how the super league is a cash grab for for about 1 minute. Then go to adverts again.

Yeah that's not the same level is it? Not even vaguely comparable.

 

[Cassidy]

I remember but the Bosman ruling was a matter of contract law and employment law. Free movement of labour, one of the founding principles of the EU, was violated.

This one would be quite different

Its still about free movement of labour. If you’re banning players from joining a competition.

 

[Mainoldo]

Seriously. Can someone explain how youth development in the league wouldn’t benefit from this?

I get the concern but just in fairness of a two sided argument. Do we not get a better Premier League?

I understand we are an English club and should always be proud to represent our domestic competition.

 

[Reapersoul20]

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Well said, better than a lot of the posts in this thread.

 

[Annihilate Now!]

Whatever happens, City should definitely be docked 20 points.

 

[Nick7]

Seriously. Can someone explain how youth development in the league wouldn’t benefit from this?

I get the concern but just in fairness of a two sided argument. Do we not get a better Premier League?

I understand we are an English club and should always be proud to represent our domestic competition.

What would stop those 6 clubs from hoovering up all the youth talent?

 

[Cpt Negative]

Probably the time for me to stop my renewal if United press ahead with this. They need permission from the premier league, which they won’t get.
If there’s any slightly doubt we come out of the English pyramid, I’ll be cancelling my ticket.
Big decisions for the club before June now

 

[Pexbo]

Ole clearly not fecking happy. Call me dramatic but I can see a resignation coming if this goes through.

No chance.

 

[Dave Smith]

I am with Neville 90pts deduction to all teams signed up to it. Going to take years for this to get through, send them to the Champo and cut off the CL money.

 

[Sandikan]

UEFA said participated clubs will be banned from domestic and European competitions

Posturing from all sides.
Uefa will be bricking it at their most glamorous clubs plotting this.

Expect to see some changed Euro champions league format with more money involved.

 

[Schneiderman]

Surely it won't happen when they see the reaction. We just collectively wouldn't watch it and go to whoever your 'second team' is. I blame the Americans too, probably come from the Glazers and Liverpool's lot. The pricks.

 

[Compton22]

I don't love football anymore

 

[R'hllor]

You mean when basketball teams tank their performance for a draft spot

Pure spirit of competition.

 

[Tincanalley]

What does their nationality have to do with it?

What it has to do with it is; they don’t give a fwck about the town of the fans

 

[Traub]

Yeah sure, players are suddenly gonna choose to play for Sheffield United instead of Barcelona, and get paid 5 times less cause they might not play in a World Cup.

too true, especially when the majority end up playing 3-5 games in the tournament once every four years. It may take a few years for players to accept, but it'll be the norm in the next decade.

 

[el3mel]

Don't really have an opinion with what little we know.

I'm quite confident that if it does happen, regardless of how much we don't like it, we'll all watch it though.

I'll watch United just out of habit, but with zero interest or passion for the results anymore. Just watching because I'm supposed to watch the team I support, not because I'm interesting in winning or losing a trophy or a game. This will be the death of the sport in general for me.

 

[::sonny::]

I can see this super league for 1 month during the summer, friendlies with more money

 

[Tiber]

Sky will quickly chnage their tune when they buy the exclusive rights

 

[Morpheus 7]

Nev making the Glazers look like the cnuts that they are, in the stadium.

 

[Antisocial]

Anyone remember what the reaction was when the Premier League was first rumoured? The strength of Sky's reaction based on pretty little actual detail suggests they are concerned about it, but I'm guessing there must've been similar feelings back in 1992?

 

[iluvoursolskjær]

Its kinda funny seeing greedy people call out others for being...greedy.

 

[RedPed]

You only have to look in this thread to see there’s some people that are for it. Most likely people that have never set foot in a football stadium.
It’s a joke. Would make the main leagues completely irrelevant.

They can go feck themselves, seriously. Imagine some league based on the shitty NBA/NFL models with no promotion/relegations, 7-game playoffs, loads of adverts etc. Wouldn't be long before the clubs became franchises and started playing home games in Kuwait.

 

[SirScholes]

And Invested in the Salford City project that is currently buying their way towards the Premier League.

Pretty sure Salford means something personally to them but doesn’t matter he was spot on in what he said

 

[Sunny Jim]

Spot on.

 

[BrilliantOrange]

God I love Gary Neville

 

[predator]

AC-12 would be all over this.

 

[Flamingo Purple]

A super league including teams like Arsenal, Spurs, Atletico Madrid and Inter Milan but no PSG or Bayern just seems ridiculous anyway. Would basically mean the Champions League and this new super league would have different champions of equal standards and no way of determining the true best team in Europe. The idea of it being stagnant and no recognised route in and out is pretty dismal too. Also domestic rivalries completely forgotten about such as our rivalry with Leeds Newcastle etc and instead rivals won't even speak the same language - pub 'banter' and the atmosphere at the stadiums would seriously suffer. Don't know why it has so much but this whole prospect has genuinely upset me, the Premier League and Champions League are far from perfect but this new league would seriously hamper my enjoyment of watching football which is a needed distraction and a key part of my life.

 

[KirkDuyt]

I wonder what being a mid or lower table superleague side would do to the fanbase of one of these clubs, because let's face it, kids around the world dont walk around in a Barca or Juventus kit, because they love the city. It's because they win a lot. No one gives a feck about a midtable club on the other side of the world.