I have a feeling its something like this. yes.
European Super League
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Why do they have to ruin what is good.
I feel CL is good as it is. Maybe improve it to 64 teams if they want and remove EL.
Although I like having two tournaments to be honest.
I feel CL is good as it is. Maybe improve it to 64 teams if they want and remove EL.
Although I like having two tournaments to be honest.
Its a Lawsuit. It just won't fly in the court.
At least it outs the Glazer Shills in the Caf
On another note, best of luck to Sheff United next season. A good friend of mine at uni was a massive Blades fan; top guy and a good club.
Look at how much the big clubs in England have been forced to spend to still watch City win 3 of the past 4 PL's, it's monumental sums of cash to be second best*, at best, and it only looks like getting more expensive and more difficult to stick with them. City will dominate until the U.A.E gets bored, that much is clear, it's incredible just how far they have come in such a short time.
Anyone spending those sums previously was guaranteed a title.
Clubs are panicking at how the can continue to attract players with these wages and the fees versus City, PSG and the worry of the likes of Saudi ownership, that's why they are so desperate to guarantee their futures with guaranteed revenues from a Super League.
I think you are missing the point. This is a closed European Super League with no promotion or relegation. It is a club for the elite. A Royal Family of football clubs which excludes all other clubs.
Businesses are greedy...but there are levels of it.
Yes, clubs rely on finance and have a level of self interest. But this goes too far.
If it was a league that clubs from across Europe can qualify for...a.proper structure then that would be interesting.
But this is turning European club football into a farce where clubs such as ours feel they have an entitlement.
The big clubs are basically working on the assumption that their domestic leagues would cease to be viable without them, so the ultimate sanction of expelling them just won't happen. I think they've made a serious misjudgement, and I would welcome the powers that be - UEFA, FA, EPL, and corresponding organisations in Italy and Spain - stating clearly that expulsion is precisely what will happen to them if they don't abandon this scheme pronto (they have hinted at it already).
As well as fans being opposed, I can't believe that the majority of managers and players think much of this idea either. They could come together and kill it stone dead if they wished to simply by making their opposition clear and pledging never to set foot on the pitch for any game under the aegis of the poposed super league. The TV companies could weigh in too by saying they would not pay to show the games, and would give it zero coverage.
That's a different discussion altogether.
Just count the number of games.
Got me agreeing with this prick. This won't stand!
If the PL are so concerned with 'fairness' then they should let the Saudis buy Newcastle.
Quite likely this is what's gonna happen, but the drama has been very interesting regardless
Easy solution if Boris is so concerned change the law and force English clubs to be owned by fan groups instead of foreign billionaires and more importantly sovereign states.
they are dead serious - have spoken about it for months, this isn't a knee jerk reaction
Boris Johnson speaking sense. Dark times.
You kind of are by insinuating that their long standing money grab has anything to do with it. The monster has always existed the only thing that prevented it was that the UEFA caved every single time, the difference is that this time what the UEFA offered seemingly isn't enough. I find it problematic that you even start your point with it because it deflects from the historic shadiness of big clubs, we need to stop making excuses or making mitigating factos for the clubs that we love.
I also want to make the off topic point that these same clubs routinely shaft players, knowingly exploit young players when they don't have strong representation and that agents like Mendes and Raiola may be upsetting from the POV of a fan but they are snakes dealing with snakes, football clubs aren't angels and have never been.
UEFA should just kick out City, Chelsea and Madrid from the CL semi finals. Replace them with Porto, Dortmund and Atalanta. That will send a message.
Yes college not grassroots. Its the same issue. Unless you are an elite competitor you will have no funding. So no Sunday league no local teams no natural growth or progression. No grassroots football. I know American sports well and there is nothing at the grassroots level except basic pick up games.
Really ? It's supposed to replace CL for these teams actually. UEFA won't allow them to participate in both, because it'll undermine CL and their authority.
Most probably domestic leagues will also follow.
Its not working for them as the biggest draws to the competition, they are losing money and are being told to suck it up and take even more burden by UEFA
Definitely seems this way. Both sides are posturing and bluffing to try and maintain the stronger hand in negotiations.
What the actual feck?
Was my first thought too. A power play to throw a wrench in the works of the UEFA plans. They can't be actually serious with this, can they?
It would mean the end of UEFA and of the whole European football architecture as it is, a complete re-ordering, would they really want to take this risk?
The whole thing is depressing. The sport being devoured by the financial industry in front of our eyes.
The whole problem with City and Chelsea buying the league could have been avoided if the PL imposed a rule stating that clubs could only spend a maximum of 80% of their yearly revenue on players. Academies can only send out a certain number of players on loan. An owner isn't allowed to own more than one club in European football.
Boom, no more artificial clubs.
"But clubs could just cook the books".
My response to that is, it's illegal to do so. Anyone with two brain cells to rub together would see it's dodgy if a club went from making 40M one season to making 300M in commercial revenue the next.
Is that idea too simple to have worked? Basically, owners can't invest money into the club in terms of buying players, but can invest it into infrastructure instead.
Boom, no more artificial clubs.
"But clubs could just cook the books".
My response to that is, it's illegal to do so. Anyone with two brain cells to rub together would see it's dodgy if a club went from making 40M one season to making 300M in commercial revenue the next.
Is that idea too simple to have worked? Basically, owners can't invest money into the club in terms of buying players, but can invest it into infrastructure instead.
He's only parroting common opinion, don't give him too much credit.
The CL is dog shit, there's a reason a revamp is also being discussed
That would be stupid.
The most ridiculous opinions are that this is 'just an extra tournament'. what days are left to play another large tournament ? do players go to playing weekend, tuesday night, thursday night?
Nah, I'll just watch them in the CL. You go on and be mad about it, though.
Why would we devalue our domestic league that's giving us close to 100m every season as gate revenues? The club's existence is on match going fans and that won't be compromised.
I know but still.
If it is one big bluff the Premier League should absolutely feck over the 5 teams involved in someway in case they want to repeat it down the line.
Absolutely, he will join any cause that might benefit his popularity - see Brexit.
Ourseleves & Arsenal kicked out of the EL semis as well then
Just count the number of games.
If an English team got to the final of both European competitions that's 80 games before domestic cup competitions.Sir Alex wouldnt know. He isnt even on the board of directors. There has to be an ability to fire those responsible. The owners wont make this decision unilaterally. It will be considered by senior execs who make the decisions. Who can be fired.
Probably. The PR hit will last a week or so before everyone forgets.
Is this the match thread for it then?
It's supposed to replace the CL for the included teams, because they're fecked off with UEFA for not giving them more money.