European Super League

Do you want the ESL to happen?


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So what if United join this Superb League? A few fancy games, great commercial opportunities, gain loads of dosh, players come back to England covered in gold, hey United did you get a haircut, look closer Lenny, bloody fantastic and everyone's a winner. Who are Sunderland? The team playing against the guys who hammered AC Milan in a 1-1 draw in Peru across the road from Ian's burger van.

Anyone who doesn't see the greatness of this whole plan is a total idiot.

If their plan was to compete in all leagues, squad sizes would be huge too. Can imagine there would be no real pump to win the league for us.

It would ruin my FPL enjoyment :(
 
Neville is spot on with his criticism of the 6 English clubs. It's the worst kind of selfishness I've ever seen in football.
I have supported United since 1983, but I will not see a single match in this European Super League. It's a promise. I am embarrassed by Manchester United. This makes me sick.

Look to the owners. Why would we expect anything different from them, it's not at all surprising to me.
 
To be honest, all this uproar is well and good BUT if there is a real will politically, they can literally change the onwership laws for football clubs overnight.

People might call it socialism or communism or whatever but there is no other way of doing this because these guys probably know they fit within the current legal structures.


Bring on the Germany model and give fans a voice to stop this ever happening.
Not really. In the grand scheme of things, football clubs make up a small proportion of the UK economy. Removing/changing ownership of companies means overseas investors may re-think investing in any industry, if there is the threat that the government will just effectively nationalise. They won't do it, it'll be economic suicide on the back of Brexit.
 
Anything in the UK, private or public is within the purview of the government. We've seen that in the last year where business owners like Ashley thought they could cheat.

But if a real emergency and will exists, rules just change. The only reason this private ownership is brought up is the cult of capitalism and we've seen today what capitalism in football ends with. So if they want to abuse the system, change the system.

How do you take it from them? You pay them off? Cheating is one thing, but private owneship is another thing. Especially in the west it is a big deal. And what about other investmens?
 
Odemwingie has travelled to Old Trafford in anticipation of an announcement.
 
No doubt more clubs would be, once things get moving. But were they among those who started it? Or proposed it?
Madrid were probably one of the initiators which is likely why Perez will be the chairman. This isnt just about American owners
 
Any chance this ends with the following?
- automatic qualification for certain clubs to the UCL.
- More tv money for certain clubs.

... in the short term, maybe... but I think the "super" clubs see a breakaway from UEFA as inevitable. Just as the premier league clubs didn't want the Football League, the super clubs don't want UEFA.
 
Tottenham, Arsenal, City, Atlético Madrid... 0 CL trophies between them. At the level of championships, all together shouldn't sum up to half the number of championships wins for clubs like Ajax, Benfica, Celtic, set to languish, in a world apart, because their prestige is not backed by the green paper.
 
Everyone talking about punishments, point deductions etc. but are there actually any legal grounds to do so? As this never happened before I would assume there will be plenty of grey areas for the clubs to exploit and avoid any kind of punishment.
 
... in the short term, maybe... but I think the "super" clubs see a breakaway from UEFA as inevitable. Just as the premier league clubs didn't want the Football League, the super clubs don't want UEFA.
Fair, I’m just seeing this as almost a negotiation tactic to reform the UCL, but you might be right.
 

Isn’t the point they’re making somewhat watered down by the fact it’s on a channel you need to subscribe to to watch, one of 3 UK broadcasters that the Premier League sold tv rights to for this season meaning fans have to pay exorbitant amounts just to watch the games (oh and by the way in normal seasons you’re not even guaranteed to see all your games).

The super league is trash and I hope it gets binned but the PL can’t pretend they’re not just as greedy as the feckwit owners.
 
Everyone talking about punishments, point deductions etc. but are there actually any legal grounds to do so? As this never happened before I would assume there will be plenty of grey areas for the clubs to exploit and avoid any kind of punishment.
Their lawyers aren't stupid. No doubt they've done their research.
 
The league would, but what about the clubs with these huge costs and no income (and income would go down)?
That’s the point I was trying to say it’s these clubs that will lose in the long run if the big leagues have the balls to kick them because there is plenty there to replace them.
 
Tottenham, Arsenal, City, Atlético Madrid... 0 CL trophies between them. At the level of championships, all together shouldn't sum up to half the number of championships wins for clubs like Ajax, Benfica, Celtic, set to languish, in a world apart, because their prestige is not backed by the green paper.

Welcome!
 
Everyone talking about punishments, point deductions etc. but are there actually any legal grounds to do so? As this never happened before I would assume there will be plenty of grey areas for the clubs to exploit and avoid any kind of punishment.

i can’t see how you can get points deduction for your intention to do something in a couple of years.

it was only mentioned by Neville who has no basis, just going on emotions.

besides, even if they could, if you deduct points, that’s the end of the league. At present it’s just posturing, and there will be a compromise.
 
So disappointed by United. Its pure greed. We need to look at the ownership of clubs in the Premier league, that is the root of the problem.

If I understand this correctly we will be in a league where we can not be relegated with huge TV monies. Its just a cash cow for our American owners. Physically sick of the though of it.

One final point, the magic of the FA Cup, the small team knocking out a Liverpool or an United, its what football should be. Disgusted.
 
Isn’t the point they’re making somewhat watered down by the fact it’s on a channel you need to subscribe to to watch, one of 3 UK broadcasters that the Premier League sold tv rights to for this season meaning fans have to pay exorbitant amounts just to watch the games (oh and by the way in normal seasons you’re not even guaranteed to see all your games).

The super league is trash and I hope it gets binned but the PL can’t pretend they’re not just as greedy as the feckwit owners.
Especially after the PPV stuff they tried to introduce.
 
Not necessarily, they have done all this with the domestic league still being there and the money generated from that as well, if they relegate them or ban them that’s less income for them both tv deals and 18 match day sales gone, the league will survive without them it would be suicide for the clubs to risk being banned from domestic competitions.

The TV money would dry up fast from the PL without the top clubs and players outside the top 6 would want to play in the top competition which would be the super league, the PL is absolutely crushed and so are the remaining teams if they kick the top 6 out.

They have no choice but to let them continue no matter what they’re trying to say in these statements. Same goes for FIFA they aren’t banning players, who wants to watch a World Cup filled with players from Villa, Everton, Villarreal, Getafe etc it Would be a massive sham that does nothing bud damage their own organisation.
 
The more you read, the more this comes across as a politicised PR stunt by these 12 ‘super clubs’ to leverage the power of their brands against UEFA and its future plans for the European Club competitions. From a PR standpoint mind, it has been fairly disastrous so far since this story broke.
 
I'm just wondering how Football Manager would do this
 
Announcement tonight or not I need to sleep
 
Worst of all is that you know these games would eventually be taken on tour like the Harlem Globetrotters. America, China, Japan, Mexico, wherever they can fill a stadium for $300 a ticket.