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Hartlepool will be declared overnight according to the BBC, though I think we all know the result
Honestly it’s mind boggling, though perhaps it’s what Starmer needs to change course and actually do some opposing and tell people what Labour actually stand for. He’s been incredibly disappointing so far.Britain deserves what it fecking gets. 11 years of these cnuts, daily sleaze and scandal, total covid and Brexit feckups and they still get rewarded. fecking joke.
Honestly it’s mind boggling, though perhaps it’s what Starmer needs to change course and actually do some opposing and tell people what Labour actually stand for. He’s been incredibly disappointing so far.
Hopefully it’s the end of him to be honest although I don’t see any unifying candidate ready to take over. Centrist and they will perform as badly as he has, left wing and they will be destroyed by the media.
Britain deserves what it fecking gets. 11 years of these cnuts, daily sleaze and scandal, total covid and Brexit feckups and they still get rewarded. fecking joke.
I think a lot of it is UKIP votesIs there rapid exit polling over there?
What are the reasons for Conservatives gaining votes?
Yeah it’s definitely this.I think a lot of it is UKIP votes
I think a lot of it is UKIP votes
Has to be a lot of Labour votes as well.Yeah it’s definitely this.
Is there rapid exit polling over there?
What are the reasons for Conservatives gaining votes?
As awful as the tories are I couldn’t tell you what Labour have been up to for the last god knows how long and that must play into this. They need to focus on coming across as a coherent political party rather than constant internal power struggles
She probably hand a wank.Bet she is celebrating hard.
I honestly don’t know what Labour can do? Tories have the money, the media, the narrative. And for some reason everyone clearly loves them. It does feel like their constant sleeve is ‘priced in’.
I really need to evaluate where I live.
I do agree, the only thing I can think to help is installing a charismatic leader who can inspire a message and hold the government to account.She probably hand a wank.
I can't see where Labour go from here. Any direction it takes, it will bleed votes and there's no guarantee it will gain them elsewhere.
Basically I think a sizeable % of the brexit former Labour voters will never vote Labour (at least not for a generation), no matter Labour's message.
Identity is now the driving force in British politics and economic arguments are by the by.
Any attempt to move towards a nationalist message from Labour and they will be slaughtered down south. They are fecked.
I don't even think it's apathy - it's either ignorance or delusion at this point, and we're destined to continue on this cycle.
Loads of Labour MPs already calling for Labour to turn further to the left and towards woke politics. Naturally from the comfort of their London apartments.
Totally misses the point behind losses like Hartlepool and will ensure even more Northern seats turn Tory.
Loads of Labour MPs already calling for Labour to turn further to the left and towards woke politics. Naturally from the comfort of their London apartments.
Totally misses the point behind losses like Hartlepool and will ensure even more Northern seats turn Tory.
the kidnapping of the word ‘woke’ from its origins is really one of the most bizarre things I’ve ever witnessed.
I keep seeing this but what message do you think people from towns like Hartlepool want to hear?Labours shift from the party that speaks for towns like Hartlepool to one dominated by Londons upper middle class is pretty bizzare aswell.
I agree completely.British people like to suffer, just in case that hasn’t been made clear already.
They’d rather suffer & continue to slide into self-inflicted troubles than vote for left wing policies because that would be an admission that they need help, and their aspirational dreams of becoming a Tory isn’t gonna pan out.
We’re stuck with a delusional &/or ignorant electorate.