Day 2: Wales vs Switzerland | Denmark vs Finland | Belgium vs Russia

[Hester_manc]

Kjaer is a fecking hero.

Agree, he was amazing. What a person.

 

[Bobski]

The teams did well in this situation. Really proud of the Danish players for shielding Eriksen from the cameras as best they could.

Absolutely, in what must be a traumatizing moment for them their camaraderie and togetherness was inspiring.

 

[nimic]

The mood to play? Now where do we draw the line? Someone collapses we abandon, but if someone suffers a double fracture broken leg, we are ok to continue?

Plenty of matches have continued after players suffering very serious multiple fractures, are they not shaken in those cases?

People don't die from broken legs, even horrifically broken legs. People, even young people, regularly die from heart attacks. It really shouldn't need to be explained that players are more shocked if their teammate (or even opponent) had to receive CPR to not die right then and there.

 

[Cal?]

Piss off.

Which part of what I said isn't true?

I don't know, how about when you watch a friend and teammate nearly die? Jesus christ!

I'm not a professinal footballer.

 

[Brwned]

This is my point. People need to get out of the mindset a medic needs to do CPR. Anyone can! Basic life skills that could help you save someone in the street or a loved one.

They shouldn't have been waiting for the medics to come over. The team staff should have been able to identify the issue and start on the CPR. If they aren't trained for that then questions need to be asked.

It seems likely they weren’t trained in CPR. If so, trying to do it and doing it badly can cause more harm than good. And organisationally it can make sense that team medics aren’t trained in that giving professional doctors are available pitchside. There may be things to be learned from the way things were communicated and the process followed but it seems a bit harsh to criticise them.

 

[Judas]

The mood to play? Now where do we draw the line? Someone collapses we abandon, but if someone suffers a double fracture broken leg, we are ok to continue?

Plenty of matches have continued after players suffering very serious multiple fractures, are they not shaken in those cases?

Such a bizarre thing to argue about, surely there's some common sense in that head of yours.

 

[Bepi]

Truly shocking event and really hoping for the best, but any call to stop reports are futile (right to report, public event, responsibilities, etc. are unavoudable and this will be part of evidence.). The game should also go on, the teams can play it like a training session if they want and make it finish 0-0 imho.

 

[mav_9me]

This is my point. People need to get out of the mindset a medic needs to do CPR. Anyone can! Basic life skills that could help you save someone in the street or a loved one.

They shouldn't have been waiting for the medics to come over. The team staff should have been able to identify the issue and start on the CPR. If they aren't trained for that then questions need to be asked.

This actually could be used as a great teaching moment by public health in Europe and even other countries about the importance of bystander CPR.

We had a young Amish patient in our ICU a couple of years ago after cardiac arrest. After he recovered we went and taught that particular Amish community CPR. We think it may have helped when a similar young person had cardiac arrest last year.

 

[Wonder Pigeon]

The mood to play? Now where do we draw the line? Someone collapses we abandon, but if someone suffers a double fracture broken leg, we are ok to continue?

Plenty of matches have continued after players suffering very serious multiple fractures, are they not shaken in those cases?

Would you ever cop on you absolute creep

 

[United Hobbit]

Hopefully he will be OK

I wonder if after this they will introduce screens which can be put up if a player sustains a serious injury (eg this/ Jota's head injury etc) it would allow the player some privacy while they are treated, given there's a stadium full of fans.
They have them in horse racing for whenever a horse or jockey needs treatment.

 

[el3mel]

Yes I remember that one. But how did he get through his career without doing medical tests? its not like it is difficult to detect HCM with simple tests.

Well, it's Egypt. These things don't surprise me here.

 

[Godfather]

There are some things you simply can't plan for and this one of those instances.

It's not just about this instance and I'm not saying playing this tournament is the sole cause of this horrible incident. Obviously not. But questions need to be asked if playing through this stressful season and now this tournament played a part in it and whether it's wise to put footballers through more and more physical demands.

 

[FootballHQ]

Does awake mean he's fine?

Like, can he relapse as such or should he be ok now?

It's certainly better news than I was expecting. Let's hope there's no brain damage or anything like the poor Ajax player had. Those pictures of him puting his hand to his head as he left the pitch at least indicated his body senses to the brain are o.k.

 

[sillwuka]

Great job by Anthony Taylor, the ref reacted very quickly and so did the medical stuff.

Relieved to see the photo of Eriksen sat up!

 

[arnie_ni]

Christ. We were all emotional watching it, never mind fecking being there.

Was about to say that. I couldn't play a game after watching that

 

[Withnail]

Oh weird. I would have thought they'd only have reported it was off if they'd heard something officially.

Although, this was before we knew he'd been revived. Up to the players now I suppose.

 

[Cal?]

People don't div from broken legs, even horrifically broken legs. People, even young people, regularly die from heart attacks. It really shouldn't need to be explained that players are more shocked if their teammate (or even opponent) had to receive CPR to not die right then and there.

The point is that every source available says he's stable!!!

If it was bad news I'd agree with you.

 

[Giggsyking]

Unrelated but I always felt rushing players right after covid, knowing that it can impact the heart and lungs, was absolute madness.

Absolutely, players should not be rushed into training after not only covid, but any viral infection that can carry risk of getting a heart muscle inflammation.

 

[DickDastardly]

Christ. We were all emotional watching it, never mind fecking being there.

Still sitting on the couch.

Fecking hell. Give them both a point and send them back to the hotel with a bottle of 40% alcohol each.

 

[Deery]

Lukaku will be very shaken when told of the news you'd imagine, Belgium got a few who played with him at Spurs aswell.

That’s true Jan Vertonghen and Toby Alderweireld..

 

[RedDevilRoshi]

The mood to play? Now where do we draw the line? Someone collapses we abandon, but if someone suffers a double fracture broken leg, we are ok to continue?

Plenty of matches have continued after players suffering very serious multiple fractures, are they not shaken in those cases?

Are you honestly for real that you can compare a player getting injured to a double fracture broken leg in comparison to a player receiving CPR?

What we saw today is one of the worst things anyone could ever witness. Would you be in the right frame of mind to continue playing if a teammate of yours nearly lost their life? I doubt it.

 

[Dan_F]

Yeah. Can’t believe people are saying that. I’ve the images of the defib seared into my brain. Shocking image.

Yeah same. That was horrendous. I’ve seen it once before in person when someone at a park collapsed and I still think about that moment a year later. It feels like a cliche but you think of the stuff that people working in hospitals have seen over the last year in particular, but also just in general…Unbelievable what they do on a daily basis.

 

[bosnian_red]

The mood to play? Now where do we draw the line? Someone collapses we abandon, but if someone suffers a double fracture broken leg, we are ok to continue?

Plenty of matches have continued after players suffering very serious multiple fractures, are they not shaken in those cases?

Their life wasn't in serious danger. Injuries are not the same as heart attacks.

I'd be ok with them postponing all remaining games today but then carrying on tomorrow. It's almost too soon to play right now.

 

[Massive Spanner]

The mood to play? Now where do we draw the line? Someone collapses we abandon, but if someone suffers a double fracture broken leg, we are ok to continue?

Plenty of matches have continued after players suffering very serious multiple fractures, are they not shaken in those cases?

You(r post) areis a gigantic pile of turd.

 

[Sarni]

The point is that every source available says he's stable!!!

If it was bad news I'd agree with you.

Puerta was reported as stable as well. You can’t go from what happened there to playing a fecking football game in half an hour!!

 

[horsechoker]

Still sitting on the couch.

Fecking hell. Give them both a point and send them back to the hotel with a bottle of 40% alcohol each.

It's dangerous to drink yourself stupid at times like these.

 

[el3mel]

Every source says he's in stable condition.

Yes. Thank God for that. Still players of both teams saw someone nearly dying in front of their eyes. How can they bring themselves to play a game of football immediately after that ?

 

[Random Task]

The mood to play? Now where do we draw the line? Someone collapses we abandon, but if someone suffers a double fracture broken leg, we are ok to continue?

Plenty of matches have continued after players suffering very serious multiple fractures, are they not shaken in those cases?

If your mate just had a heart attack right in front of you, would you feel like playing football?

 

[SirAnderson]

The mood to play? Now where do we draw the line? Someone collapses we abandon, but if someone suffers a double fracture broken leg, we are ok to continue?

Plenty of matches have continued after players suffering very serious multiple fractures, are they not shaken in those cases?

Seriously? There is a massive difference is seeing fractures of the leg, verse seeing your friend and teammate fall to the ground with what looked to them like a heart attack and probably thought he wasn't going to make it. Very different. And even so, when things are truly traumatic, we need to re-evaluate whether things should continue or not. Just because games "continue" under those circumstances, doesn't mean its right either...

 

[esmufc07]

The point is that every source available says he's stable!!!

If it was bad news I'd agree with you.

The man just nearly died ffs, if it wasn't against the rules I'd say something more appropriate.

 

[DickDastardly]

It's dangerous to drink yourself stupid at times like these.

Ok, 10% then.

 

[Cal?]

Are you honestly for real that you can compare a player getting injured to a double fracture broken leg in comparison to a player receiving CPR?

What we saw today is one of the worst things anyone could ever witness. Would you be in the right frame of mind to continue playing if a teammate of yours nearly lost their life? I doubt it.

Those very same players will be the first to know that he's in stable condition.

The fact is that he's in as good condition as can be expected right now.

 

[FatTails]

Puerta was reported as stable as well. You can’t go from what happened there to playing a fecking football game in half an hour!!

But but but…”where do you draw the line?”

fecking disgusting.

 

[ClaytonBlackmoorLeftPeg]

The mood to play? Now where do we draw the line? Someone collapses we abandon, but if someone suffers a double fracture broken leg, we are ok to continue?

Plenty of matches have continued after players suffering very serious multiple fractures, are they not shaken in those cases?

Disgraceful post.

these lads were stood next to their mate who was dying.

 

[Semper Fudge]

The mood to play? Now where do we draw the line? Someone collapses we abandon, but if someone suffers a double fracture broken leg, we are ok to continue?

Plenty of matches have continued after players suffering very serious multiple fractures, are they not shaken in those cases?

I really think you should stop posting, you're not coming across well.

Thank goodness he's okay, I had horrible flashbacks to Muamba.

 

[Arruda]

not saying they didn't have one....just the footage shown here didn't show them using the defib machine in between chest compressions which is why i brought it up in the first place. I was just really surprised to see the EMT doing chest compressions and no sight of a defib machine to aid in the CPR. I'm glad they had one because clearly his heart must have stopped on the pitch for them to do CPR.

TV cameras zoomed in and you could see him laying on the pitch and his eyes were wide open but not blinking

Not every cardiac arrest is defibrilable, so the fact you don't see a defibrilator being used means nothing (as long as it's there of course, it's the defibrilator itself that detects if the rhythm is defibrilable or not).

Also, he may have not lost his pulse immediately, that might be the reason why CPR wasn't immediately started.

I didn't watch the event. Don't have experience in life support, but just going by the theory I find it very difficult to judge what was correctly or incorrectly done unless you were right on top of it.

 

[Godfather]

Are you honestly for real that you can compare a player getting injured to a double fracture broken leg in comparison to a player receiving CPR?

What we saw today is one of the worst things anyone could ever witness. Would you be in the right frame of mind to continue playing if a teammate of yours nearly lost their life? I doubt it.

The lack of empathy in some human beings never seize to amaze

 

[Judas]

The point is that every source available says he's stable!!!

If it was bad news I'd agree with you.

If I'd just witnessed what I believed in that moment to be the death of a friend, I'm not going to be in any sort of mental head space to kick a football around. How is it so hard for you to comprehend. To be fair, I believe this is wasted energy even making this post.

 

[Desert Eagle]

The mood to play? Now where do we draw the line? Someone collapses we abandon, but if someone suffers a double fracture broken leg, we are ok to continue?

Plenty of matches have continued after players suffering very serious multiple fractures, are they not shaken in those cases?

We draw the line at loss of consciousness and potential life threating incidents.

 

[WeePat]

The mood to play? Now where do we draw the line? Someone collapses we abandon, but if someone suffers a double fracture broken leg, we are ok to continue?

Plenty of matches have continued after players suffering very serious multiple fractures, are they not shaken in those cases?

With all due respect mate, someone nearly died out there. Show some compassion ffs.