F1 2021 Season

Horner comes across as a parent of a child who can be a bit of a dick who defends them non-stop.
You know the parent who won't take any criticism of his child at all, and defends till the bitter end.
For someone who is team manager to say what he has about Hamilton is disgraceful.
Never say anything when your angry. Never air your anger in public. He should have come out and say it was not a great day, he is glad that Max is good. And added it was hard racing and no one wants to see a crash and it would have been a better race if Max had still been in the race. This is my problem with Red Bull, he lacks class. For him and Helmet to come out like is poor. Really poor.
Horner won't help Max with this attitude. Horner reminds me of most of ex girlfriends, no accountability. Sit down with Max and tell he is in the lead In the fastest car, no need to shove his balls out at every fecking corner.

Worse was the reported statement from Marko. Hamilton should be banned for 1 race.
All fans of F1 have been waiting for proper racing, especially from Hamilton and Max.
I have accepted the penalty decision, not that I agree with it.
From the start, Max was moving all over the place. Hamilton saw an opportunity and took it.
But F2 should be about racing. And today we had it. Shame about the outcome and hope Max is ok.
 
Agree, but Red Bull kicking off like Two narcissistic parents won't help Max learn from his small mistakes. Even throughout Merc dominance even I want hard fair driving. My opinion with Max it seems just hard racing.
agreed. if it happened the other way around horner would be calling him a pussy and saying we want good hard racing. he’s fooling nobody
 
He actually moved to the middle and gave Hamilton the outside line. It was Hamilton that then opted to go further inside, but that them leaves him really tight to take the corner. If it's a corner with braking then it's advantage Hamilton from there, except its not and you need to start wide to take it properly.

From Hamilton's perspective to make that move stick like that you need to get really ahead before the turn-in point so that you can actually start to move towards the middle of the track and not try and take it from such a shallow angle. That's my overall issue with it and why I put the blame mainly on Hamilton, because what he went for just isn't a doable move. You can't compare to the moves on Leclerc and Norris because in those instances the cars in front stayed outside and Hamilton was able to be inside but towards the middle of the track, giving him a more viable angle to take the corner from.
You did see him taking Leclerc from an almost identical position. Apparently you can take the corner from there.
 
Worse was the reported statement from Marko. Hamilton should be banned for 1 race.
All fans of F1 have been waiting for proper racing, especially from Hamilton and Max.
I have accepted the penalty decision, not that I agree with it.
From the start, Max was moving all over the place. Hamilton saw an opportunity and took it.
But F2 should be about racing. And today we had it. Shame about the outcome and hope Max is ok.
Yes it should be about racing but it really isn’t. Not when all teams can give team orders then its nit RACING. We will never see teammates race probably which is shame and is destroying the sport.
 
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Max is one of the most aggressive drivers and has been at fault for numerous incidents in his career.
I agree, I believe he has been overly aggressive many times but I also believe he has developped in that respect.

He chose to be aggressive defending with a 35 point lead in the championship and came off second best.
He defended well but if you're hit on the rear wheel with a front wheel there isn't much you can do. Yes, he could have let Hamilton go, but that's not how sports works, he has no special rights to get the lead. He has special rights to break the rules, especially in Silverstone, but that's a different matter. It reminds me of Martin Brundle many years ago "You just don't go around the outside of Lewis Hamilton" when he pushed the other driver off. Appearently English people don't notice how ridiculously biased the British podium interviewers, the British commentary and analysis, Sky and BBC before and the British press are.

Reverse the roles and there’s zero chance Max reacts any different to Hamilton,
No, that self glorification, helped by Mercedes marketing at the radio and Toto in the press, is typically Hamilton.

and there’s zero chance those dressed in orange aren’t celebrating massively.
So you feel entitled to simply project your English particularities on the Dutch? How surprising. As I also wrote in some England fans topic, every country of course has their national favourites and chauvinism, but all nations understand from eachother they're in it the same way, except the English (and the Brazilians) who believe the facts have to be adjusted to fit that, and that the other countries should be in awe and admit the English deserve it more for being English.
 
Worse was the reported statement from Marko. Hamilton should be banned for 1 race.
All fans of F1 have been waiting for proper racing, especially from Hamilton and Max.
I have accepted the penalty decision, not that I agree with it.
From the start, Max was moving all over the place. Hamilton saw an opportunity and took it.
But F2 should be about racing. And today we had it. Shame about the outcome and hope Max is ok.
Both of them need pulling up. They should be speaking to Max and telling him he has the fastest car, stop being so aggressive.
Absolutely, no way would have yielded if positions reversed. And that's an issue with Max, because Hamilton would have as he did earlier in this season.
Even Button just said Max is aggressive and he had to change his style when racing him. All drivers say the same thing.
 
Right ok… if his BLM stance is getting on peoples nerves. Those people obviously have some issues
I’m no Hamilton fan generally just don’t like his attitude and his Ferrari beating cars, but that’s the one thing I like about him standing( kneeling) up for a cause he believes in and a cause that the world needs to fix.
 
I thought that was a great race win. He had to really floor it to catch Leclerc.

Definitely mate. I posted that. He was fecking brilliant. Lap after lap, The guy is the best racer I’ve ever seen. That’s not the point. I think it’s unfair. But he showed how insanely good he is and that’s something you have to admire.
 
Hamilton put the car in the place where Verstappen had to run off or he will clip him. It takes skill but also it takes a man who doesn't care about other drivers/people.
 
Do you really enjoy such a win? I don’t even care who wins the championship. If Lewis is the best, fair play to him. But this is unfair you can’t argue with that can you?

Unfair? No. Unlucky/unfortunate? Absolutely. Did I enjoy the win? Most definitely.

I was sad it happened, because I love the way Lewis and Max both drive and would have loved to see them race eachother.

I'm a huge fan of both drivers, and I'm happy when either win. Which makes me a little different to some in this thread I suppose, who have to hate on one because they love the other.
 
Definitely mate. I posted that. He was fecking brilliant. Lap after lap, The guy is the best racer I’ve ever seen. That’s not the point. I think it’s unfair. But he showed how insanely good he is and that’s something you have to admire.
His pass on Bottas was equally impressive.
 
With hindsight, Verstappen will regret not yielding. His car is much faster and he would’ve probably got past Hamilton eventually
 
Verstappens instagram post is hilarious. Red bull are really filling him with stupid ideas.
 
Definitely mate. I posted that. He was fecking brilliant. Lap after lap, The guy is the best racer I’ve ever seen. That’s not the point. I think it’s unfair. But he showed how insanely good he is and that’s something you have to admire.

There is some unfairness in there, but that's racing. When two racers who will do anything not to give way come up against each other the racing can be great, but there's also going to be some situations where they come together. It's always happened and will keep happening. I can think of Senna & Prost, Vettel & Webber, Prost & Mansell, Vettel & Hamilton and even Verstappen, Ricciardo off the top of my head. There will be a lot more I've missed.

It was a shame, but for me more because it looked like it was shaping into a potentially great race with two good drivers going at it for multiple laps.
 
Just got back to campsite, what a roasting hot day, just baked in Stowe with no cover, gutted Hamilton past leclerc before he got down to our corner but what a great win and reception he had, pleased for him
 
Unfair? No. Unlucky/unfortunate? Absolutely. Did I enjoy the win? Most definitely.

I was sad it happened, because I love the way Lewis and Max both drive and would have loved to see them race eachother.

I'm a huge fan of both drivers, and I'm happy when either win. Which makes me a little different to some in this thread I suppose, who have to hate on one because they love the other.

I think we agree in most parts. I would have loved that too. But for me it’s just the unfairness it that’s a word of driving someone off the track and gain an advantage thereby. That’s all. Just as you I hope it’s close racing between those two next race!
 
Yeah, just like Perez throwing his race to take the one point for fastest lap off Lewis. I'm sure that was entirely his idea and by no means an order from RB.
Both just prove how shit this sportvis nowadays. No point having two drivers if just one is allowed to race properly.
 
Both just prove how shit this sportvis nowadays. No point having two drivers if just one is allowed to race properly.

"Nowadays"? This has been going on for as long as I remember.
 
I agree, I believe he has been overly aggressive many times but I also believe he has developped in that respect.

He defended well but if you're hit on the rear wheel with a front wheel there isn't much you can do. Yes, he could have let Hamilton go, but that's not how sports works, he has no special rights to get the lead. He has special rights to break the rules, especially in Silverstone, but that's a different matter. It reminds me of Martin Brundle many years ago "You just don't go around the outside of Lewis Hamilton" when he pushed the other driver off. Appearently English people don't notice how ridiculously biased the British podium interviewers, the British commentary and analysis, Sky and BBC before and the British press are.

No, that self glorification, helped by Mercedes marketing at the radio and Toto in the press, is typically Hamilton.

So you feel entitled to simply project your English particularities on the Dutch? How surprising. As I also wrote in some England fans topic, every country of course has their national favourites and chauvinism, but all nations understand from eachother they're in it the same way, except the English (and the Brazilians) who believe the facts have to be adjusted to fit that, and that the other countries should be in awe and admit the English deserve it more for being English.

Mate, you’re literally projecting a holier-than-thou attitude, which is very ironic given your last paragraph. If you don’t believe Max or his fans would react in the same way then that’s fair enough, it’s a hypothetical, so I can’t argue with your viewpoint. Who knows, we might yet get to see this situation in the future.

Everything has to be so extreme in discussions at the moment. It is possible that Hamilton got lucky, max unlucky, yet Hamilton still drove well and can be allowed to celebrate winning his home Grand Prix.
 
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A man like Max maybe?
Not even Senna or Schumacher would do anything close to what Hamilton did today. I am happy that some people like u are able to argue what happened today because it means that Max is okay. But it could end very differently.
 
Teammates used to race back in the 90s

Nowadays is a fairly wide net in that case, given the 90s ended 22 years ago.

90s is when I started to get into it. Used to love watching Schumacher in that Benneton.
 
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Not even Senna or Schumacher would do anything close to what Hamilton did today. I am happy that some people like u are able to argue what happened today because it means that Max is okay. But it could end very differently.

Holy smokes. You either didn't watch them race or have a short memory.
 
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Not even Senna or Schumacher would do anything close to what Hamilton did today. I am happy that some people like u are able to argue what happened today because it means that Max is okay. But it could end very differently.
What on earth?
 
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Not even Senna or Schumacher would do anything close to what Hamilton did today. I am happy that some people like u are able to argue what happened today because it means that Max is okay. But it could end very differently.
They have both purposely ended a race for their competitor….