Paul Pogba / turned down United offer of 300k as “nothing”

Pogba is 28. Will be 29 when the contract expires.

I don't really buy the narrative personally, but if it's true that he wants to leave due to underperformance then wouldn't it make sense for Pogba to wait 6 months? We finished 2nd and reached a European Final and have now added Varane and Sancho to that squad, with 1 or 2 more possibly coming.

If United are challenging, sign a new deal. If they're not challenging then you can sign a pre-contract with another team. Better for United to get a big fee while they can I agree, but also this team is very exciting and it would be a shame not to see him line up in Red with Varane and Sancho as teammates.
 
Green_Red said:
Isn't questioning his desire to sign a new contract, and the amount he is holding the club ransom for, something that fans have a right to discuss?

If reports are to be believed we've just signed a world Cup winning, 4 times CL, 3 times league winner for £250 K a week in Varane. Why would the club give Pogba more than that?
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100% have a right to discuss. I'm just talking about treating the figure of 400k as gospel and then discussing it from that premise.

Isn't Pogba already getting more than him, as far as I know his on 290k per week.
The measure for salary has much more factors than trophies I would think though.
 
rotherham_red said:
I think you need to read the full article rather than a snippet in a tweet. He still signs it off with a sentence saying that he wants to leave and that the Utd players closest to him say that it's best if the club sells him as it is best for both.
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Just saw it now. That can be interpreted in two ways, obviously depending on your view of the player.
 
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LawCharltonBest said:
Pogba is 28. Will be 29 when the contract expires.

I don't really buy the narrative personally, but if it's true that he wants to leave due to underperformance then wouldn't it make sense for Pogba to wait 6 months? We finished 2nd and reached a European Final and have now added Varane and Sancho to that squad, with 1 or 2 more possibly coming.

If United are challenging, sign a new deal. If they're not challenging then you can sign a pre-contract with another team. Better for United to get a big fee while they can I agree, but also this team is very exciting and it would be a shame not to see him line up in Red with Varane and Sancho as teammates.
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Think various sources has said United want a decision from his this summer , e.g. they wont give him any contract offer after this summer. Rightfully so.

Might be a hollow threat though, but he might not get similar wages other places.
 
I personally hope we sell him this summer and get a quality CDM with that money who will fit Ole's system better.

But I have no doubts that wherever Pogba goes next, he'll probably do really well and be much more appreciated. He's the type of player who's world class in the right sysyem
 
He'll start the season on LW for us until Rashford returns. Following that he'll be on the bench or stinking up that CM spot. We're fools if we continue to try and shoehorn him into midfield alongside Fred or McTominay. But I feel like these big names get those involved at United a bit giddy and they'll be reluctant to see somebody of Pogba's marketability leave.

Ole likes having him about as he's a great player off the bench to roll the dice and try and get us out of the crap (eg AC Milan). But I'd like to think he can see what the majority of everyone else can, that we're dysfunctional with him in this team unless Bruno is dropped, which never happens and shouldn't.
 
Random Task said:
Pogba is in a position where he can put to bed any suggestions questioning his commitment to the club by a) signing a new contract and/or b) releasing a statement confirming his desire to play for our club. Not at any point has he done either of those things.






What's stopping Pogba from following Kessie's example? Has any of his defenders stopped to consider for a moment that, maybe, just maybe, he is not committed to the club and is happy to take us for a ride?
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We've been in this position countless times already with Pogba. He just creates a circus because he likes the attention and, deep down, doesn't give a crap about the supporters. Like you said he could easily set the record straight (we seem to say this every summer in the midst of his circus) but he doesn't. He actually fans the flames, in fact. Given the opportunity to leave for Real or Barca (they've never been daft enough) he'd be gone in a flash I reckon. He tries to bait interest but never gets it, which is why we always have this sort of situation with him.

He plays those at the club like fiddles.
 
Borys said:
Well I'm not going to argue about inconsistency, it doesn't seem to concern him as much as for example Bruno.
Many people confuse being inconsistent with having average performance.
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I think an average game for Pogba is being inconsistent. People have a higher ceiling due to him being a class player.
Bruno towards the end of the season was criticised for his performance because we have come to expect much better. In a strange way that's a compliment to these standout players.
 
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Pogba is a professional and he plays every game to his best. The goals he scored against Milan and Switzerland proved how vital a player he is.
 
pocco said:
He'll start the season on LW for us until Rashford returns. Following that he'll be on the bench or stinking up that CM spot. We're fools if we continue to try and shoehorn him into midfield alongside Fred or McTominay. But I feel like these big names get those involved at United a bit giddy and they'll be reluctant to see somebody of Pogba's marketability leave.

Ole likes having him about as he's a great player off the bench to roll the dice and try and get us out of the crap (eg AC Milan). But I'd like to think he can see what the majority of everyone else can, that we're dysfunctional with him in this team unless Bruno is dropped, which never happens and shouldn't.
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I think the club will snatch any money they can if they sense he's not going to sign a new contract. Which is of course the correct course of action.
 
The fact of the matter is that he doesn't really elevate us as a team, which is essentially what a player's output boils down to. It's not like we haven't tried every single permuation in terms of role or position under different managers either.

Obviously he has bags of talent and I'm sure that he's a nice enough guy, but I don't think it would be much of a blow to lose him in the scheme of things. It was definitely the correct decision to take a punt on him 5 years ago, but for someone with his ego (not in the negative sense) it must feel terrible that you've spent your prime years underperforming at club level.
 
Random Task said:
What's stopping Pogba from following Kessie's example?
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Money. There is an opportunity to get a big fat, long contract. Dragging it longer, means more desperation by the club and more money. He knows United very well. In the end, we will pay silly money.
 
Its crazy because Pogba is the first Worldclass player that nobody has the money to buy. Bit strange to be honest. If he doesn't sign an extension we need to move him on asap.
 
Am extension for him will come bite us back in the behind. It will be very weird to see him leave on a free but the club will get over it in a blink, but a new long term contract will bring so much drama and constant drain of resources that it will cost us for a long time
 
Sultan said:
Don't let most professionals fool us about their love of the clubs, badge kissing ad chest-thumping. Financial gains matter in most cases and Pogba is no different to the majority.

As a fan of the club, my only consideration is wanting the best players to be playing which gives us the best chance of winning. If that includes Pogba in the squad that's well and good.
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Sultan said:
Changing subject but quite relevant to employment and the success of a particular business. Many companies have employees who are disliked but are very good at their jobs and bring success. Does Pogba give us a better team, and more chances of success despite the antics? That is what the coaches and the club owners will be evaluating.
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I think it's fine to not do the chest thumping or the badge kiss but my gripe is the way Pogba in this scenario has put his needs above the club at all costs and I feel like that is not normal.

Moreover I'm sure the coaches and Ole are looking at the instability the agent disruption causes, the way it affects continuity and so on. These are major factors too.
 
He won't become a DDG or Sanchez because his skills aren't dependent on his age. It's pretty foolish to think that way. Hope he signs the deal and stay with us even if it means on an increased wage.
 
Tincanalley said:
I’d suggest that the new realities of Covid economics haven’t struck home in some quarters. Or maybe there’s a bit of desperation in the Pogba/Raiola world: big question is; how badly do PSG want him? From a (admittedly) great distance, I sense insecurity in PP, and a huge need for approval. I heard he got some rebukes in the French camp, for neglect of defensive duties, including from Varane? My guess is - he wants to be loved at OT. Agent (thinking of his pocket) keeps telling him he is under appreciated and needs to leave.
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I hadn’t heard that he was causing issues in the French camp for lackluster work rate defensively. To be fair, I watched all the France matches and it seemed like he was fully engaged, more so than he is with us.

I do think that teams see what we see as fans: a ridiculously talented player and athlete who is error prone in possession, has a poor defensive work rate, makes head scratching errors, tends to have a few injuries, and hasn’t shown consistency. Is a 28 year old with that type of history worth 50m?
 
The smart move has always been to run down his contract. PSG just gave Wijnaldum £330k per week on a three year deal in a Covid market, with the player turning 31 in November. Pogba will be better, younger, and in a healthier market next winter/summer. He'll get a fat signing on bonus and 350-400k per week, at least three years and maybe four, and he'll probably have a choice of a couple different clubs and can think about their projects and exactly where he fits in.

If United is offering him 300k per week on a three year deal right now, they're not actually trying to retain him very hard.
 
I change my mind on the Pogba situation every other week.

Some weeks I want him and his agent gone so we can finally move on. He has never really reached the expectations of him considering his ability.

Other weeks, I'd love it if he extended his contract and we can see him play in the middle of this new star filled team. It would also mean we could still sell him next year and would at least be guaranteed good money.

TBH I'm swaying towards wanting him to stay.
 
Of course Pogba will wait until January to max out the preassure, we shouldn't give to that. Either sign right now or sell him before the window closes.

While Pogba has the upper hand he is not in such a strong position, he's had a poor injury record recently, about to turn 29 so no real resell value and covid practically wiped out his chances of joining Juve, Barca or Madrid. His only option is PSG, and the french know it. They dont need to offer ridiculous wages, and we shouldn't either.
 
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If there is any merit in the Tweet it definitely means he is wanting to see out his contract and see what offers are on the table come the end of the season. If he was excited at the direction he would be signing a contract now. The words "excited and direction" are just to appease the fans and keep them sweet.
 
You reap what you sow, this is the price of buying Pogba

We need to keep moving forward
 
Sultan said:
If there is any merit in the Tweet it definitely means he is wanting to see out his contract and see what offers are on the table come the end of the season. If he was excited at the direction he would be signing a contract now. The words "excited and direction" are just to appease the fans and keep them sweet.
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Doubt it. Like RvP he probably wants to win things. If Ole gets this team to deliver as it should now I can see him extending.
 
Red Shorts said:
Rate this, but waiting for the haters and their "but" responses to this
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https://www.whoscored.com/Players/97752/History/Paul-Pogba

According to this, he’s declined the last two seasons to 7.18 and 7.06 in PL matches. I personally think that match ratings are just one data point. They tend to reward the sublime performance and washout average and poor performances.

Is this a “but” response? Cherry-picking his first three seasons, not including the last two? The reason we finished 2nd last season and 3rd the season before was because of the play of Bruno, Maguire and Rashford. Pogba was injured and played relatively less minutes compared with previous seasons.
 
I really can’t understand why Pogba wouldn’t renew at this point. His Real Madrid dream ain’t happening and to be honest La Liga’s top two are in total disarray. PSG won’t be offering him much more than United are and the league is a big step down (question marks over Mbappe also)

For the first time in nearly a decade, United’s team is actually looking capable of challenging and I’m sure Pogba realises that!
 
Godfather said:
Doubt it. Like RvP he probably wants to win things. If Ole gets this team to deliver as it should now I can see him extending.
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No team is guaranteed trophies. PSG might get some Ligue 1 championships but anything else is bit of a stretch. It's not like he hasn't won anything though- world cup , EL, EFL isn't that bad.
 
Beyond me how anyone can be pro pogba. If he wants to stay sign the £300k per week contract. The world has changed due to covid. If we gave him a £500k week deal and the world goes back into lockdown - is he going to give part of it back?? Is he feck! The guys is a clown - 1 decent goal at the Euros and all of a sudden he's the best player in the world agaiin. My contempt for his off field behaviour knows no limits. And as for his agent - how come erikson has a cardiac event and that fat cnut doesnt? He's like a fatter chris moyles when he was fat if you know what I mean. Man Utd are always bigger than their players - Pogba needs to realise this.
 
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