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We are an awfully coached team
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) is joined by CEO Duncan Drasdo and Financial Director Andy Green from the Manchester United Supporters Trust for a special episode on all things behind the scenes at Old Trafford including a brief history of MUST and their aims today, views on INEOS and Sir Jim Ratcliffe so far, and the Old Trafford regeneration.
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Not sure if that is anything. Pogba might as well be looking at someone else. However I am sure even the players are understanding how poor we are.
Cavani had a sitter that he missed and Ronaldo had a decent chance when he scored.
Yep
Just need Matic to roll back the years and we would step up from decent to very very good
What are you on about? We were completely shite...our back line appalling...pressing non existent till the 75th minute...attacking clueless...full backs embarrassing...saw Pau Torres put his foot on the ball, in Old Fuking Trafford and stand there for 7 or 8 seconds while everyone fuking watched him! The crowd went bananas! The midfield made Villareals midfield look like a top top side- they aren’t and had they have had their first choice striker we would have been whipped.
Net terms? We were just as bad as any match this season. A last minute winner changes fuk all about us looking like the most disjointed and lucky team i have seen in years.
We won because of what most people say. Individual brilliance.
Pogba probably not happy with being subbed off. Regular occurrence at most clubs.
Any new coach would immediately disassemble this team and want "his" players in. I don't think Ole's up to it, but I do think our structural issues make it almost impossible for a proper coach to succeed. I think this is our ceiling until those issues are fixed.Just think how good we'll be when we get a top class manager that brings something to the table
The performances were dire and I'm happy to criticise that win or loss. I was criticising it when we beat West Ham, for example.
But there's no doubt some people went OTT because we lost the Villa game, in a way they wouldn't have if we scrapped a lucky win like today. If we're criticising our coaching it makes sense to focus on the actual performances consistently rather than ebbing and flowing with the results.
When a smiling Ole ran up behind Pogba to celebrate with him Pogba brushed him off with no emotion on his face.
He's done with him and his 'go out there and enjoy yourself lads' tactics.
My post was just before the Cavani chance
I just mentioned this scene in the match thread too. That was intriguing to say the least. Either Pogba was unhappy being subbed off or just not happy with ole for other reasons.
I'm back.
After 2 straight losses this thread has gone up to 148 pages?
How bad was the whining?
After 2 straight losses this thread has gone up to 148 pages?
How bad was the whining?
Who needs coaching when you have pashun.
I mean obviously we do, but narrative and nostalgia am I right?
I mean obviously we do, but narrative and nostalgia am I right?
That's an embarrassing performance. That game was so one-sided in the first half it was a joke. Some of the pundits were struggling to describe what they were watching.
Cavani brought an energy to the team, and we just won by tactics which you see on a Sunday morning all over the country really.
How anyone thinks we will win the Premiership or CL with this Manager is beyond me, and that is what a club of our size should be aiming for. Ole's had 130+ games in charge, and we play like that?
I'm fed up with it.
Cavani brought an energy to the team, and we just won by tactics which you see on a Sunday morning all over the country really.
How anyone thinks we will win the Premiership or CL with this Manager is beyond me, and that is what a club of our size should be aiming for. Ole's had 130+ games in charge, and we play like that?
I'm fed up with it.
Like Tuchel did?
Sorry but I don't believe that for a second. We've got one of the best squads in the world right now. They just don't look like it.
Yeah, new coaches sell the entire team they inherit and buy new 11 players. Keep on inventing myths.
Yeah. The reaction from Van de Beek wasn't nice either.
Welcome back. Have you woke up yet like many others have?
Wait what!? If i say this was piss fecking poor on next level, they could score at least 4 in 1st half, had chances in 2nd on top performance being dog shit, other people will shove what exactly in my face, some deluded Ty level nonsense, that probably.
Poor performance, yet again. There's just no structure. It's impossible to describe what we're doing because I don't think even the players do.
It's just individual talent/moments and that's it. Even the pressing isn't co-ordinated.
It's just individual talent/moments and that's it. Even the pressing isn't co-ordinated.
What happened?
I didn't say we weren't. We were dirt poor in terms of performances, as we have been pretty much all season.
But we still have some excellent players, so we'll get by to a decent level despite those performances. It absolutely doesn't mean there should be no criticism (in fact I'm explicitly saying we shouldn't let positive results gloss over our problems), just that the very OTT end of the pessimism is misfounded.
Guess the whole squad knows.
The winning goal was a fantastic team effort?
Chelsea don't have those structural issues. They hire "head coaches" not "managers". Their recruitment and coaching strategy are separate and the club are designed for 2-3 years cycles of coaching. We on the other hand, just give each manager pretty much full control. Both LvG and Jose pointed to this as issues preventing them from succeeding. Tuchel would, IMO, not have been as successful here as he is at Chelsea.
Non Ole related but imagine new coach selling bunch of players in United, we barely can get rid of one, while rest we have to either gift or pay to get rid off.
It was a fantastic effort from Cavani haggling for the ball.
Terrible coaching and tactics that result in needing moments to score and DDG to pull masterful saves out the bag. Good enough to keep us competitive but not enough to ever win anything.
We need a change. Happy we won but that was a dreadful performance that only prolongs Ole.
We need a change. Happy we won but that was a dreadful performance that only prolongs Ole.
Understandably unhappy at being subbed off when the team needed a goal.. I wouldn't be smiling in that situation either. It's good for the team that we have more game changers now.
Seeing people defend Ole is mind boggling. We’re a poor side considering our resources, saved by individuals pulling out moments. Either our players are miles worse than we think or we’re badly coached, I don’t see another option here.
I follow a league 1 side home and away with my young boys and I genuinely see more structure, more cohesion and a better system there than I do with United.
I follow a league 1 side home and away with my young boys and I genuinely see more structure, more cohesion and a better system there than I do with United.
Any vid, I want to phychoanalise
Just think how good we'll be when we get a top class manager that brings something to the table
Every other club: SHHH! Don't give them ideas.
Also every other club: Guys, we're at the point where if we keep outplaying them, they might catch on. Everyone just draw against them now.
On and off the ball it’s not good enough, can’t expect to compete at highest level with such a limited manager.
Fantastic ball from Fred, glorious touch by Jesse and a good finish from Ronaldo
As I said in another thread, our entire tactical problems currently seem to come from the fact Ole has absolutely no clue about how to use Ronaldo. He just shoehorned him into the team and expected things to work out on their own like with Cavani, except Ronaldo is completely different from Cavani. Cavani still runs, presses and moves around a lot. Ronaldo has been static, barely has it in him to dribble and is mostly now a classic number 9.
Our entire attack has fallen down because other players don't know what to do with Ronaldo. Instead of having a 3 forwards setup upfront who interchange their positions like previously, we now have a classic poacher in the box and the players are trying instead to make ton of crosses and long balls for him. On the few instances Greenwood and Bruno try to shoot on their own. It has become a complete mess upfront. We look so disjointed and unbalanced. Imagine having Ronaldo up top with Pogba in midfield and Bruno playing closer to a second striker than a number 10, you're basically looking forward to playing with 3 players who are pointless without the ball and 2 of them barely even run (Ronaldo and Pogba).
It's not Ronaldo's problem. It's our manager's problem who bought Ronaldo without having a clue about how the team's dynamics will be once he's in the main lineup. He just expected it work on its own. It's the proof Ole is a terrible coach.
Our entire attack has fallen down because other players don't know what to do with Ronaldo. Instead of having a 3 forwards setup upfront who interchange their positions like previously, we now have a classic poacher in the box and the players are trying instead to make ton of crosses and long balls for him. On the few instances Greenwood and Bruno try to shoot on their own. It has become a complete mess upfront. We look so disjointed and unbalanced. Imagine having Ronaldo up top with Pogba in midfield and Bruno playing closer to a second striker than a number 10, you're basically looking forward to playing with 3 players who are pointless without the ball and 2 of them barely even run (Ronaldo and Pogba).
It's not Ronaldo's problem. It's our manager's problem who bought Ronaldo without having a clue about how the team's dynamics will be once he's in the main lineup. He just expected it work on its own. It's the proof Ole is a terrible coach.
If he threw that at the manager then he should be off to the reserves and never play for us again