Interim manager discussion: Who replaces the interim interim manger (Carrick)?

[MyDevil]

So, Carrick is just a temp. Not even interim manager.

I wonder what the Board has been doing all this while when the results are not in our favour. They thought Ole will somehow manage to flip the downward form? Jesus...

 

[Ranchero]

Even in handling Ole's sacking, we are a shambles. Effectively we are rudderless. No forward succession planning whatsover. Carrick is taking charge with zero motivation as he will be out the door as we scramble around to find someone, ANYONE, to take control till the end of the season. So we aren't even looking for a permanent manager. We are a joke of a football club right now. And it only shows that the problems at the club are systemic. From top to bottom. Ole's sacking is a token gesture for what needs to happen at Old Trafford.

 

[Remember the geese]

People are assuming it’s Ten Hag at the end of the season. They might very well be waiting for Poch.

They aren't waiting for anyone. That would be crediting them with foresight, a plan.

 

[Ralph1386]

So, Carrick is just a temp. Not even interim manager.

I wonder what the Board has been doing all this while when the results are not in our favour. They thought Ole will somehow manage to flip the downward form? Jesus...

This is a comedy: we have a temp making way for an interim making way for a permanent manager.

 

[sunama]

For one game, yes ok. Just one though and do all you can to get the guy you actually want now, not the end of the season.

What tends to happen at the club is we inch our way to mediocrity.
What do I mean by this?
Today: "we'll put Carrick in charge for 1 game"
Next week: "we need more time, so Carrick stays in charge for another few weeks"
2 months later: "we'll need until the Summer to hire the full time manager"

Do you see where this is going?
Carrick and McKenna have been an unmitigated disaster since they took their roles. They got Jose fired and have now got Ole fired.
Both need to be kept away from the first team.

They aren't waiting for anyone. That would be crediting them with foresight, a plan.

Agreed. They have installed Carrick because they have no idea what to do or who to appoint.
The board are clueless.
They were genuinely caught by surprise yesterday and probably expected Ole to turn the ship around.

This is a comedy: we have a temp making way for an interim making way for a permanent manager.

Somebody reading this would think it's a joke, but it's actually true and shows how incompetent this board is.
Only MUFC's board could come up with the master plan.

 

[red4ever 79]

I suspect Fergie will be helping Carrick until Mr Interim arrives

Like he helped Ole at the beginning and at the end. What are we a babysitting club for managers and interims now.

 

[Hammondo]

This is crazy. If we give it to Carrick, Fletcher, Keane or any other ex player. We need to show ambition and go at least try to get the man we want now. (Maybe after the chelsea game). We must know who we want.

It's only interim.

 

[stw2022]

It’s been on the cards for a while. Just because we’ve not announced a plan doesn’t mean there isn’t one.


The reliable ITK sources were tweeting last night we hadn’t made a decision just because we didn’t tell them what it was

 

[golden_blunder]

That's exactly it and managers tend to build their staffs with people they know including friends.

I also don’t know what people expect when we have a game on Tuesday. Who’s gonna help him, the dinner lady?

 

[glazed]

People are assuming it’s Ten Hag at the end of the season. They might very well be waiting for Poch.

Either of these two would work for me. Anyone else I would say the club has lost the plot. Wait till the end of the season if necessary. Menawhile we MUST buy a DM in January.

 

[DomesticTadpole]

Wasn't Carrick meant to be grooming McT as his successor? We saw how well Donny played yesterday. Will this lot continue with McFred during the week and against Chelsea or will realise they need to give Donny a chance now.

 

[Real Name]

I also don’t know what people expect when we have a game on Tuesday. Who’s gonna help him, the dinner lady?

They expect that the club sack all of them which is of course silly.

 

[Berbaclass]

I also don’t know what people expect when we have a game on Tuesday. Who’s gonna help him, the dinner lady?

The other members of the coaching team maybe.

 

[glazed]

It’s been on the cards for a while. Just because we’ve not announced a plan doesn’t mean there isn’t one.

There has always been a plan - just not one that involves winning football games. Which has turned out to be more of a flaw that envisaged.

 

[GE]

History FC still trying to play the ‘Man United Way’.

How to we expect to play slick free flowing football with low level British coaches? Literally no other top team does this.

There’s ‘mates’ all over the place. Darren bloody Fletcher as Technical Director, who would’ve thunk it?

We need to realise that following the Bayern and Ajax structure simply will not work. We should be appointing the best in class at every department.

 

[Hammondo]

So what has actually changed? Ole's gone but the rest of them are still there. I am not campaigning for sackings. I just don't really understand how just taking out Ole is meant to change anything.

Maybe it's for a statement, sending a message or not sending the message keeping him would give.

 

[Chairman Steve]

They surely must know who the interim guy is going to be right? Otherwise the decision to part ways with OGS makes no sense.

Based on the ‘interim manager until end of the season‘ line, I’m hoping that it’s Rangnick as interim, then moved to a technical director position in the summer with Ten Hag in as the permanent role.

Hopefully this time interim means interim.

 

[Rex Banner]

Sacking Ole should be prepared a month before, and it has a two week international break for negotiation of the caretaker before this game. The board should have a plan b if the thing go wrong before this game.

And OLE said it multiple time that the team setup and play style are prepared by Carrick and Mckenna mainly and OLE havent involved a lot of that. So, we will and should see nothing change when Carrick in-charge. We just throw OLE under the bus.

Sure but that would require having a competent board or structure in place and we all know that isn't the case.

In the situation that we're in at the moment you can't just sack your entire coaching staff ffs, no matter how much you think they're to blame. We've got a big game on Tuesday and then Chelsea this time next week. Do people just want us to have no coaches or a manager for those games?

 

[Robertd0803]

Wasn't Carrick meant to be grooming McT as his successor? We saw how well Donny played yesterday. Will this lot continue with McFred during the week and against Chelsea or will realise they need to give Donny a chance now.

I reckon they will stick with the same formation and tactics for now as theres not really much time to implement anything massively different. Not saying thats right but anyone expecting a radical new formation and tactics is probably being a bit too hopeful.

 

[JPRouve]

The other members of the coaching team maybe.

That's unlikely though. I really think that some fans should pay more attention to other clubs, the SAF era didn't give United fans much perspective about the world of Football. If you give the caretaking job to Carrick he is going to keep some of the current members, he isn't going to pick people from the U23 or U18 because he doesn't have a work relationship with them and it's unlikely that he has a personal relationship with them either. Particularly during the first days/weeks.

 

[justboy68]

If they are scrambling this much for an interim why not just fecking take Ranieri back with us from Vicarage Road? He'd hardly say no would he?

I really hope it's Rangnick they've got planned out as interim otherwise we just continue to look stupid.

 

[TMDaines]

Bit of a worry, because I’m pretty certain that Ole in isolation, as a toxic or completely incompetent presence, is not the main issue. Feels as if we may just see more of the same midweek.

 

[OrcaFat]

The ideal interim manager would have been Ranieri. We need an old guy who has won stuff, isn’t connected to the club and has nothing to lose by handing these players their arses, when required.

 

[Berbaclass]

That's unlikely though. I really think that some fans should pay more attention to other clubs, the SAF era didn't give United fans much perspective about the world of Football. If you give the caretaking job to Carrick he is going to keep some of the current members, he isn't going to pick people from the U23 or U18 because he doesn't have a work relationship with them and it's unlikely that he has a personal relationship with them either. Particularly during the first days/weeks.

Then what is the point in sacking Ole until we actually have somebody lined up?

Same guys, same ideas, same shit.

A fresh perspective from new people would absolutely be beneficial. Especially when we have a very important game on Tuesday.

Carrick has been at the club for 15 years. I'm pretty sure he is familiar with a lot of the coaches at the club other than Phelan and McKenna. It's a bit ludicrous to suggest otherwise.

 

[OrcaFat]

If they are scrambling this much for an interim why not just fecking take Ranieri back with us from Vicarage Road? He'd hardly say no would he?

I really hope it's Rangnick they've got planned out as interim otherwise we just continue to look stupid.

I was thinking the same.

 

[Old Ma Crow]

It’s hard to know whether Ole didn’t take good advice from his coaches or whether they were all part of the problem. I’ve never rated Phelan and still don’t know what he brings to the table.

 

[Lukinho]

How long do you think it’s going to take us to find an interim. Another 2 months maybe?

 

[golden_blunder]

The other members of the coaching team maybe.

Let’s not get silly. The club have acted and now we need to get this game out of the way. Then we will see

 

[Berbaclass]

Let’s not get silly. The club have acted and now we need to get this game out of the way. Then we will see

Silly? The club needs a new direction, new people.

The sooner the better.

 

[klsv]

What an absolute kindergarten this place is

Do you just want the bench to be empty on Tuesday and let the players freestyle the match? Someone will need to manage the side before we get someone in. Or is it just that you don't know what to moan about after Ole got the sack?

 

[BluesJr]

Ranieri would have been absolutely ideal.

 

[roonster09]

Silly? The club needs a new direction, new people.

The sooner the better.

Club needs new direction, yes but coaches plays insignificant role in taking the club in new direction. It's the manager who does it.

 

[Ralph1386]

Then what is the point in sacking Ole until we actually have somebody lined up?

Because they had to do something after yesterday’s fiasco.

 

[eire-red]

It's probably going to get worse before it gets better. I guess sometimes you have to take that short term pain for the long term gain.

A change was needed, but I just can't believe we've waited until after the international break to pull the trigger.

Such a mess, from top to bottom.

 

[Berbaclass]

Because they had to do something after yesterday’s fiasco.

Like against Liverpool and City.

 

[Ranchero]

It’s been on the cards for a while. Just because we’ve not announced a plan doesn’t mean there isn’t one.


The reliable ITK sources were tweeting last night we hadn’t made a decision just because we didn’t tell them what it was

If there was a plan Carrick wouldn't be in charge for "forthcoming games" [that's more than one]which is as open-ended as it gets. So that means he will be there for Chelsea. Utter farce.

 

[Berbaclass]

Club needs new direction, yes but coaches plays insignificant role in taking the club in new direction. It's the manager who does it.

No that's not true at all.

 

[horsechoker]

Ranieri would have been absolutely ideal.

I think so too and he might he even be kicking himself because he's not likely to get more than a year at Watford.

 

[JPRouve]

Then what is the point in sacking Ole until we actually have somebody lined up?

Same guys, same ideas, same shit.

A fresh perspective from new people would absolutely be beneficial. Especially when we have a very important game on Tuesday.

Carrick has been at the club for 15 years. I'm pretty sure he is familiar with a lot of the coaches at the club other than Phelan and McKenna. It's a bit ludicrous to suggest otherwise.

We could have an issue behind the scene with some players openly against the manager's decisions? We could be close to bring someone but that someone doesn't want to take care of the game against Villarreal and would prefer to have more than a day with the team? The board could be a bit dim? Or all of these suggestions are true.

 

[Ranchero]

It's probably going to get worse before it gets better. I guess sometimes you have to take that short term pain for the long term gain.

A change was needed, but I just can't believe we've waited until after the international break to pull the trigger.

Such a mess, from top to bottom.

Yes the problems at Old Trafford are systemic. They stem from having a board that don't understand football, are steeped in American football and have been responsible for creating a culture of 'learning on the job' amateurishness.