[RedPed]

To score first and concede is annoying but we could have lost 4.0 too.

Van de Beek should have been on earlier or started as Bruno is shocking this season.

I hope Rangnick likes Sancho, VdB, Telles, Pogba, Cavani and Ronaldo.

Would love to see a team with all of them in.

Ronaldo Greenwood
Sancho
Pogba VdB
Fred
Telles Varane Maguire AWB
De Gea

Ronaldo and Cavani can rotate with Rashford and Greenwood to have one young and one experienced combos.

Sancho can rotate with Bruno.

Pogba and VdB can rotate with Matic and McTominay.

Telles can rotate with Shaw.

Our squad is better than Ole and Carrick have made out. I feel Rangnick will do very well for the rest of the season.

Ragnick will know what our squad and lineup is missing ready for a summer of spending on completing the squad to challenge for the league next season.

Mark my words....

You had to spoil that decent post by putting Maguire in there, didn't you.

 

[steffyr2]

I'm not sure what game people watched but we were shite. We could have been 2-0 down after 3 minutes and it took until the second half for us to have anything even resembling an attack.

Best you can say is the defending was better than in most of our recent games but then you'd expect it to be with an 11 man defence and no Maguire oafing about, and it still wasn't good enough to justify his much pressure we out ourselves under. I can think of at least 7-8 times Chelsea could easily have scored not including the penalty.

The tactics made no sense. Press from the front but play Matic so it would be impossible for the midfield to push up.

It was just the same as all season. Just relying on pure luck and/or one of our forwards doing something spectacular.

It wasn't a shambles like at Watford but I'm not sure when the bar got so low that anything above that was acceptable.

I wasn't expecting anything spectacular either but that performance wasn't any kind of progress. It was another 90 minutes of shite masked by a decent result handed to us mostly through Chelsea's own incompetence.

I watched it. If Jose had played like that, there would have been riots.
Chelsea didn't look good, I will say that. They should have 4 up 10 minutes in.

 

[UnofficialDevil]

Its amazing how Chelsea have become some kind of super team on par with Liverpool and City. This time last year they were on the same level as crap as we are. Just goes to show you what a good manager can do.
It was another one of those games where we get a point or a win we dont deserve, same as Vilareal for example. But we do have an amazing squad, and if Chelsea can improve so much with a new manager then so can we. Lets hope Rangnick does some magic.

 

[Scholsey2004]

Some good, hardworking performances, specifically in the second half. It was all very basic stuff though. Our coaching staff is mid table.

 

[MrSingh2002]

You had to spoil that decent post by putting Maguire in there, didn't you.

If we had someone better believe me he wouldn't be in there.

 

[TheReligion]

Can I ask why people are expecting progress?

We don't have a manager.

 

[MrSingh2002]

Can I ask why people are expecting progress?

We don't have a manager.

We have a very good one. He'll be announced today.

 

[tjb]

See I don't get this notion of us not being good enough as a group. Most thought United would challenge for the league at the start of the season. Yes our midfield is a bit shoddy, but on talent, we have the capacity under a good manager to do really well.

 

[RedRonaldo]

We played like cannon folder throughout the game. But a point is a point, result wise can’t really complain.

 

[Skåre Willoch]

Shite

 

[NewUser777]

I was a donkey, travelling to a country who don’t speak donkey. I would just look at the pictures. And the pictures have been telling for some time, we need structural confidence and work ethic. Creativity will follow, but first and foremost, we need to get back to last season and some structural balance. But maybe I’m just a donkey, who doesn’t see the big picture, when only looking at the structural parts.

 

[gerdm07]

Mad thing about Sancho's goal was if he'd chosen to slide Rashford in instead of passing it into the net, Marcus would have been offside.
During their run towards the goal together after Jorghino's miscontrol Rashford was in an offside position for most of it.....mindless stuff!

That's exactly what I was thinking. How hard is it to slow down and be onside.

 

[Foxbatt]

We were shite as some have said.

 

[Beans]

Lot worse performance than under Ole but get an undeserved point.

Ralf's got a hell of a job on his hands if he keeps this coaching staff.

Surely he can't do more than keep 1 or 2 on to learn on the job.

We're gonna need 2 CMs and 2 FBs, those are the players who do the bulk of the work holding the ball against a press, who need to be very quick on the ball to beat it.

Can't name many current players who will be able to play in a team that can dominate possession against the top teams. Bruno, Sancho, Cavani...

 

[Djemba-Djemba]

Can I ask why people are expecting progress?

We don't have a manager.

It's staggering the people moaning don't understand that.

"Oh if that was Ole or Jose people would be furious"

Yes, because they were both here years and given hundreds of millions to build a team and a squad.

Carrick has been interim manager for a fecking week. This time next week we know he won't be manager, nobody is acting like Carrick is some genius and we were brilliant.

He's taken a team in shambles and rock bottom and got two decent results. Nobody should be slagging him off.

 

[ExoduS]

Its amazing how Chelsea have become some kind of super team on par with Liverpool and City. This time last year they were on the same level as crap as we are. Just goes to show you what a good manager can do.
It was another one of those games where we get a point or a win we dont deserve, same as Vilareal for example. But we do have an amazing squad, and if Chelsea can improve so much with a new manager then so can we. Lets hope Rangnick does some magic.

Actually last year this time we were smelling the top of the table and Chelsea was crap. We had a horrible start but then we had a great December if I remember... but then in second half sh1t went downhill again.

 

[Alek M]

We neutralized Chelsea for the most part. Were lucky several times. Bruno was wasteful. Baily and Lindeloff were ace.
FFS Rashford stay onside

 

[Siezard]

Sancho finally proving to everyone why he's worth 70 mil with 2 goals in 2 games!

Fred was fantastic and could have won a penalty.

Chelsea should not have gotten a penalty. Tussle like that happens all the time. United was robbed of a victory.

 

[ndkhoa2020]

Carrick comment on RR about the style of play:

“The club doesn’t change. It is still Manchester United,” said Carrick. “It still has a certain DNA running right through it.


“Expectations and responsibilities are the same, playing exciting football. We are here obviously to win first and foremost but in a certain way.

And he shows the so-called DNA ADN (whatever the name) playing style in the first half with only one harmless shoot from Bruno

 

[Freak]

I thought we should have won to be honest. Not sure what AWB was doing for that penalty. We’ve looked much more organised under Carrick than we’ve been under Ole which is strange.

 

[lex talionis]

Yes, Chelsea created far more chances than we did…but they needed a dodgy pk to beat De Gea.

 

[Ibi Dreams]

I don't know why people think we didn't deserve our point. It's a game about scoring goals, we scored one and they scored one. Chelsea didn't deserve to win if they couldn't score more than us, especially given that we weren't even good. Plus their penalty was soft

 

[croadyman]

Makes me laugh when some thought it was two points dropped, we were lucky to get a point and what you would expect from a team near the bottom of form league. Brutal truth is the scousers and City don't give away a soft penalty when leading they just see it out.

 

[Dans]

Rashford is turning into Martial 2.0

 

[Chicharo]

I was surprised when Carrick brought Jadon out.What? He's played so many minutes thus far he cannot play the whole game.
Also, can ayone explain to me what's the point in replacing Bruno (who was bad) with VDB in 89. minute?
Penalty decision without even checking was ridiculous

 

[Jake]

I still can’t see how that is a penalty - I would be more at peace with it if he had had a look at the monitor himself and decided.

Decent result, even better considering our circumstances but for some reason I still feel annoyed we didn’t win.

 

[Florida Man]

I was a donkey, travelling to a country who don’t speak donkey. I would just look at the pictures. And the pictures have been telling for some time, we need structural confidence and work ethic. Creativity will follow, but first and foremost, we need to get back to last season and some structural balance. But maybe I’m just a donkey, who doesn’t see the big picture, when only looking at the structural parts.

 

[lemmiwink]

Game went alot better than expected to be honest. I had 2-0 for Chelsea as my bet before the game, but I betted 100 NOK on 1-1 as I had a feeling we could get lucky and nick a goal. Their front line atm isn’t exactly terrifying and my guess was they had the potential of maximum 2 goals.

Bailly and Lindelof was terrific. Matic, Fred and Sancho as well. De Gea’s been our best player despite all our GA so far, and was superb today as well.

Great result overall. We really could not hope for anything better.

 

[Luffy]

I was a donkey, travelling to a country who don’t speak donkey. I would just look at the pictures. And the pictures have been telling for some time, we need structural confidence and work ethic. Creativity will follow, but first and foremost, we need to get back to last season and some structural balance. But maybe I’m just a donkey, who doesn’t see the big picture, when only looking at the structural parts.

 

[stoinz]

Think we did well under current circumstances. First time for a long time that I detect some semblance of shape. You can tell what we tried to do albeit not very well but that's the difference between coaching. The major positives I have is the squad usage. Lindelof, Baily and Telles are more than adequate to step in and do a job. We don't need to run our first eleven to the ground. We have good enough players to step in and do a job if necessary and no over-reliant on first eleven. Onwards and upwards!

 

[A Civilized Reader]

Let's be honest here: Before the game, most of us would be happy with one point. Chelsea is top of the league, in good form, and have a good manager; we have none of those.

After the game, I am still happy with one point.

Chelsea were unlucky (or we are lucky) in first half with many chances. In another day they can be few goals up by half time already.

I was also surprised with the Sancho sub, but it was not what kill our momentum. It was the penalty that make the impact. But again, in another day, Chelsea might not even need that penalty with all their earlier chances.

I mean even for Liverpool or Manchester City, a draw at Stanford Bridge at the moment may not be a bad result. We should accept our current form and readjust our expectation.

 

[Siezard]

I was surprised when Carrick brought Jadon out.What? He's played so many minutes thus far he cannot play the whole game.
Also, can ayone explain to me what's the point in replacing Bruno (who was bad) with VDB in 89. minute?
Penalty decision without even checking was ridiculous

Jack up your appearance counts. Even if you appear for just 1 min, the stat will put you as having one sub appearance and your value remain high because you are active.

 

[Classical Mechanic]

I thought we should have won to be honest. Not sure what AWB was doing for that penalty. We’ve looked much more organised under Carrick than we’ve been under Ole which is strange.

We had 34% possession and 3 shots in the whole match. You have to be a wildly optimistic to think that we should have won when we played so negatively.

 

[Bestietom]

Gawd, we have dropped so far behind.
I really didn't know how far we have fallen behind. It is so easy to see how badly we are coached now. Rangnick has a hell of a job on his hands.

 

[Marcus]

I think Carrick did a great job holding the league leaders to a draw at their place. What more could we want before Ralf gets here? I for one am satisfied given the circumstances and the results of the previous EPL games.

 

[Roane]

Sancho was taken off because he looked injured wasn't he?

The commentators said he was not moving freely before he was subbed and I noticed he seemed to limp.

Think it was a forced substitution

 

[ICHM]

We stole a point from the league leaders, who had an off day and chose the wrong team to play us.

Carrick did well, he wasn't appointed as a manager. I would have kept Sancho on, but who am I.

 

[justsomebloke]

I think Carrick did a great job holding the league leaders to a draw at their place. What more could we want before Ralf gets here? I for one am satisfied given the circumstances and the results of the previous EPL games.

It's tempting to answer that you would want something more than what you'd expect from Burnley or Newcastle - 5 shots, barely 30% possession and a United possession heatmap that was completely green in Chelsea's third at halftime. But I agree with your point about the context of the game. It's relative stabilisation. The result is good. So was the effort. But it also shows how much work there is to be done.

 

[RedC]

A draw is a great result, but let's not pretend that wasn't pathetic. It was like watching West Brom scrape a draw against a top 4 team. There is no need to pretend like we are a better team when we don't even have a manager currently.

 

[UnitedFire]

Its amazing how Chelsea have become some kind of super team on par with Liverpool and City. This time last year they were on the same level as crap as we are. Just goes to show you what a good manager can do.
It was another one of those games where we get a point or a win we dont deserve, same as Vilareal for example. But we do have an amazing squad, and if Chelsea can improve so much with a new manager then so can we. Lets hope Rangnick does some magic.

I think a lot is forgotten of how much investment was made the summer before last. Frank Lampard was unlucky that the players didn't have time to bed in.

Tuchel may have done a great job. That is hard to deny, but that investment always had the potential to come good.