This really is tiresome.
- not logical or well organized
- an incoherent policy
- The present, incoherent system does need reform.
- The theory was outdated and incoherent.
SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)
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This really is tiresome.
- not logical or well organized
Nobody knows.
The only real life data they have on vaccine efficacy vs omicron comes from South Africa where nobody is boosted.
These data showed a double jabbed person is 33% less likely to get infected and 70% less likely to end up in hospital compared to someone who isn’t vaccinated (equivalent figures are 80% and 93% for delta)
You would expect a booster dose to increase those %’s quite significantly.
May I ask where you got this list from?
Thanks for the informative post. Nice to see someone who engages people who disagree with a measured approach! You seem to have quite a lot of knowledge about the subject - do you predict biannual booster jabs, and, if so, for how long? Or will this be like the flu jab that needs to be taken annually? If so, presumably everyone above 5 (or perhaps even lower the way things are going?) will need to have an annual jab?
Isn't it just?
Your use of the word incoherent is incoherent.
- an incoherent policy - an unclear policy
- The present, incoherent system does need reform. - because it is unclear
- The theory was outdated and incoherent. - and therefore unclear
it says fb at the top
I mean where else could that come from?
Yes, but where on facebook? I don't have facebook.
Something can be clear but not logical or well organised. And therefore incoherent. I don't understand what you don't understand. But I don't think anyone else is interesting in this discussion continuing. DM me if you must.
Thanks!
tbh similar symptoms - banging headache, body ache, awful fever. Though curiously nothing of note in the coughing/chest area. My sense of smell and taste seems for the most part intact so far too.
Hope you and your wife recover well soon.
Even we're not interested in this discussion continuing.
It was reported by our own "experts" at 75% of stopping symptomatic illness just the other day for the booster.
it will just be some random on facebook, nothing you can link to
I got my first shot really close to the shoulder. Didn't feel anything. To the point that i was questioning if i got the vaccine at all.
I am booked for the booster next week. Will be part of the 3x Pfizer gang soon as well
Sounds plausible but I haven’t seen the data they’re basing it on. Although they’re getting more and more data every day.
It really is. Don't use words if you don't know what they mean could be a potential solution for you.
@jojojo
This was what I was getting at about omicron blowing up testing capacity in next few weeks.
Anyone speak Danish?!?
Feeling any better?
Record number of reported cases in the UK today:
Details at:
https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/cases
Details at:
https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/cases
Boris press conference at 5pm. More restrictions incoming?
For sure. I think we'll see PCR testing falling to a crawl - turnround from test request to result could easily hit 5 days even if we ration the lab capacity in some way. Chances are the results will take longer than the incubation time.
I think we'll hear more about acting on LFT result only for some cases.
They'll stick to boosters and tests I think. We'll probably hear them start to ramp up the advice (maybe like Scotland?) but I doubt we'll hear actual regulations coming in.
The health services in the UK and Europe won't be able to cope with this?
Not really, thanks for asking. I still have a pain in my chest and came home from work at lunch, have been a bit breathless since midday. I've just got off the phone to 111 and am waiting for a clinician to call back.
Looking at London it looks like it's confirmed that cases have doubled in the past week. Chances are that rise will be omicron. In fact by now London cases may be 80% omicron.
Stop testing! Bring the numbers down!
It's rampant here, I have it, G.F has it - about 15 others we both know between us have it. Never known anything like it all pandemic.
It's totally their choice..... I just hope they don't have any serious issues.
Weren't cases always going to ramp up at this exact date and for the next 7 days? Everyone doing tests even without symptoms or close contacts on the off chance they are positive. Get the run up to Christmas off work and enough time to wrap pressies and be free for Christmas day?
Or am I just a grumpy old fart and people wouldn't actually do that?
Or am I just a grumpy old fart and people wouldn't actually do that?
Ok Tory
The strangest post. Even if it were true in what way would that be a bad thing? The more positive cases you catch the better for everyone else.
I like how this always devolves into some shit political bollocks for absolutely no reason.
You've gotta take the next 2 weeks stats with a pinch of salt. It's literally the worst time for data collecting for a new variant. Or the best time maybe.
Asymptomatic people don't normally test, now you'll have a percentage who are.
You're either getting more positives than usual, or you're seeing a better real number due to asymptomatic testing.
That’s a huge rise in cases. Weekend lag?
You posted this before my next post but I posted again, it's not a bad thing. It can be seen as a good thing, but the reporting will just show "this many cases, it's a spreading faster than we thought" and those will be the headlines.
But because I have a different view point, the super intelligent posters who think they own the thread will be out to attack me and call me a Tory or an anti vaxxer because ... You know, internet points.
Good point, I forgot about weekend lag, but with the test shortages, would weekend lag could carry over into Wednesday too? Tomorrow may be even higher.
Isn’t the doubling time just quite short now like 2/3 days.
I believe that statistic was from SA, which has a very different demographic and vaccine status etc etc. But I could be wrong. I mean if it genuinely is doubling here every 2/4 days then unless severity is significantly reduced, hospitals will surely be overrun in days or matter of a few weeks?
That’s what people on Reddit are saying in some threads I’ve just been reading.
If that’s the case, and applies to modelling for the UK, if we don’t yet categorically know it’s much less severe, then … well not to be a pessimist but aren’t we fecked? Someone please tell me why I’m wrong
Jabs and boosters should keep our hospital numbers down I think? That's why there's a a huge booster push.