Joe Rogan

It is stupid. It can certainly be viewed as racist. I am more curious what black people have to say about it as their view is more important than mine on those two clips. I am not here to defend that Joe Rogan is a saint, he isn't. I am here to bring some balance as Joe's haters are outnumbering us, Joe Rogan fans, by a bunch!

I'm Ethiopian...there's no other way to view it. It's fine to be a fan of Rogan, or anyone, but no need to deny reality to do so. It's cool to say it was a shitty, racist comment but you still like the pod/Joe.

Worst part imo is it's not even 'racist but funny', just straight up something you'd read on Stormfront or whatever the racist hangout du jour is in 2022. Tim Dillon, who I first heard on Rogan, does plenty of racial bits (and everything else imaginable) but the difference is he's almost always funny and never comes across as just straight up malicious.
 
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It is stupid. It can certainly be viewed as racist. I am more curious what black people have to say about it as their view is more important than mine on those two clips. I am not here to defend that Joe Rogan is a saint, he isn't. I am here to bring some balance as Joe's haters are outnumbering us, Joe Rogan fans, by a bunch!

In this very thread you have agreed that he is not intelligent, kind of racist, tweets conspiracy theories, not a saint. What is the balance you are bringing to this thread? We are all saying the same. If he is all that, why are you his fan and why is it so important for a guy like him to have a platform that reaches millions? Can't understand that
 
In this very thread you have agreed that he is not intelligent, kind of racist, tweets conspiracy theories, not a saint. What is the balance you are bringing to this thread? We are all saying the same. If he is all that, why are you his fan and why is it so important for a guy like him to have a platform that reaches millions? Can't understand that

Because he has earned it.

Edit: I am a fan because he elevated podcast game to what it is now. He wasn't the pioneer but certainly increased popularity of long conversations. Through him I have learned about people I'd never heard before or did not pay enough attention to. People like: Graham Hancock, Rhonda Patrick, Andrew Huberman, Garrett Reisman. He also had political candidates that I liked like Bernie Sanders and Andrew Young. I also liked Tulsi but lately she has been sort of a whack. Some of his podcasts were a total masterclass of amazing conversation through which a lot can be learned.

His list of guests over the years has been absolutely amazing. Episode with Brian Cox was phenomenal, phenomenal.
No mainstream journalist is capable of doing a podcast like this. If there is one, I am welcoming recommendations.

The guy has 2-3 hour conversation with someone 4-6 times a week. Sometimes he does two podcasts in a day.

This new culture where speech is elevated to weaponry and where everyone is looking for a simplest solution - ban/cancel/deplatform - when they hear something they don't like is sickening. There are plenty of people I don't like but I don't pay attention to them.

And those two latest controversial guests: Dr. Robert Malone and Dr. Peter McCullough. He could have done without them. Some wild claims by these two dudes. I couldn't even listen to Malone as he sounded butthurt because others made money from technology he worked on or claims to have invented it. The other was far more convincing but if you read this, it looks that a lot of claims were either inaccurate, false or unsupported: https://healthfeedback.org/claimrev...ims-about-the-covid-19-pandemic-and-vaccines/

I strongly despise censorship as I think dangers from censorship are greater than few doctors spreading misinformation. Kyle K. explained my position very well, far better than I can: I advise everyone to watch it. It is long, but worth watching.
 
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I'm Ethiopian...there's no other way to view it. It's fine to be a fan of Rogan, or anyone, but no need to deny reality to do so. It's cool to say it was a shitty, racist comment but you still like the pod/Joe.

Worst part imo is it's not even 'racist but funny', just straight up something you'd read on Stormfront or whatever the racist hangout du jour is in 2022. Tim Dillon, who I first heard on Rogan, does plenty of racial bits (and everything else imaginable) but the difference is he's almost always funny and never comes across as just straight up malicious.

Sorry brother. It was racist. I am not gonna make excuses for commentary like that, there is none.

As far as Tim Dillon goes, I love that guy as well. Have you seen this:

Just curious, how did you hear about Tim Dillon?
 
He's got good guests and conversations that can be fairly interesting and informative vs the bland, generic shit you hear on CNN or Oprah. He's had some interesting guests like Matt Taibbi, Steven Pinker, Jocko Willink, Peter Attia, Snoop Dogg, Chuck Palahniuk, Sanjay Gupta, Josh Dubin, Bert Kreischer, Bret Weinstein, Rhonda Patrick, Neill Blomkamp, Lex Fridman, Andrew Huberman, Michael Pollan, Quentin Tarantino, David Sinclair, Kyle Kulinski, David Lee Roth, Neil de Grasse, Russell Peters, Dave Chappelle, Action Bronson, Alex Honnold, Marcus Luttrell, Ayaan Hirsi Ali, Elon Musk, Ali Siddiq, Tulsi Gabbard, Bernie Sanders, Ira Glasser, Lawrence Wright, Bill Burr, Matthew Yglesias, Mike Judge, Nick Christakis, Mike Baker, Tristan Harris, Gad Saad, Glenn Greenwald, Kanye West, Matthew McConaughey, Edward Snowden, Mike Tyson, David Blaine, Oliver Stone, Bob Saget, Jon Stewart, Krystal & Saagar, Stephen Dubner, Brian Greene, Mike Baker, Bill Maher, Robert Downey Jr, Pavel Tsatsouline, Firas Zahabi, Malcolm Gladwell, Edward Norton, Richard Dawkins, Penn Jillette, Maynard James Keenan, Cornel West, Naval Ravikant, Wiz Kahlifa, Laird Hamilton, Eddie Izzard, Anthony Jesselnik, Russell Brand, Gabby Reece, Lennox Lewis, Jack Dorsey, Andrew Yang, Sam Harris, Killer Mike, Sir Roger Penrose etc in the last 2 years alone. Plenty of interesting guests/conversations/nuggets of wisdom to draw off those 3+hours conversations with each guest.

I don't even think he's particularly bright, nor insightful as a host but somehow his show works - for the most part.

I wholeheartedly disagree with his vaccine stance, but people have a right to have conversations you may disagree about. Science is changing, evolving, imperfect, and the process of scientific discovery hardly linear. Which is perfectly fine. Scientists disagree all the time, so bring on the debate.

This whole backlash is frustration that we're 2 years into Covid with no end in sight - and the realization that lockdowns might have been all for naught.
 
This whole backlash is frustration that we're 2 years into Covid with no end in sight - and the realization that lockdowns might have been all for naught.

Lockdowns already served their purpose and the purpose was to not have hospitals full of sick people during initial surge of the virus. The disagreement about lockdowns can be if North Dakota needed the same policies as NYC, but it can get murky if you have too many rules.
 
Because he has earned it.

Edit: I am a fan because he elevated podcast game to what it is now. He wasn't the pioneer but certainly increased popularity of long conversations. Through him I have learned about people I'd never heard before or did not pay enough attention to. People like: Graham Hancock, Rhonda Patrick, Andrew Huberman, Garrett Reisman. He also had political candidates that I liked like Bernie Sanders and Andrew Young. I also liked Tulsi but lately she has been sort of a whack. Some of his podcasts were a total masterclass of amazing conversation through which a lot can be learned.

His list of guests over the years has been absolutely amazing. Episode with Brian Cox was phenomenal, phenomenal.
No mainstream journalist is capable of doing a podcast like this. If there is one, I am welcoming recommendations.

The guy has 2-3 hour conversation with someone 4-6 times a week. Sometimes he does two podcasts in a day.

This new culture where speech is elevated to weaponry and where everyone is looking for a simplest solution - ban/cancel/deplatform - when they hear something they don't like is sickening. There are plenty of people I don't like but I don't pay attention to them.

And those two latest controversial guests: Dr. Robert Malone and Dr. Peter McCullough. He could have done without them. Some wild claims by these two dudes. I couldn't even listen to Malone as he sounded butthurt because others made money from technology he worked on or claims to have invented it. The other was far more convincing but if you read this, it looks that a lot of claims were either inaccurate, false or unsupported: https://healthfeedback.org/claimrev...ims-about-the-covid-19-pandemic-and-vaccines/

I strongly despise censorship as I think dangers from censorship are greater than few doctors spreading misinformation. Kyle K. explained my position very well, far better than I can: I advise everyone to watch it. It is long, but worth watching.



This is part of my experience with Rogan as well. He basically git me into podcasts years ago. Would download his YouTube videos of interviews I found interesting with the guests he had. I didn't really care about Rogan was more the conversation with the particular person he had on.

Enjoyed the one with Bernie Sanders for instance. I also watched the entire conversation with Sanjay Gupta. And quite enjoyed it .

The whole cancel this ban that de platform every one we don't like trend kind of lame not gonna lie. I think it's dumb but smarter people than me think it's a great idea and I don't have the intellectual capacity to debate with people that think that's a good idea.

Surely there's a different way to deal with this? Maybe not.
 
FFS. I thought this had been blunted years ago, but apparently not.
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It is stupid. It can certainly be viewed as racist. I am more curious what black people have to say about it as their view is more important than mine on those two clips. I am not here to defend that Joe Rogan is a saint, he isn't. I am here to bring some balance as Joe's haters are outnumbering us, Joe Rogan fans, by a bunch!
and as usual, when faced with a majority of people leaning in one direction, you fancy just leaning further in the other, instead of reassessing your viewpoint? Solid stuff.
 
Because he has earned it.

Edit: I am a fan because he elevated podcast game to what it is now. He wasn't the pioneer but certainly increased popularity of long conversations. Through him I have learned about people I'd never heard before or did not pay enough attention to. People like: Graham Hancock, Rhonda Patrick, Andrew Huberman, Garrett Reisman. He also had political candidates that I liked like Bernie Sanders and Andrew Young. I also liked Tulsi but lately she has been sort of a whack. Some of his podcasts were a total masterclass of amazing conversation through which a lot can be learned.

His list of guests over the years has been absolutely amazing. Episode with Brian Cox was phenomenal, phenomenal.
No mainstream journalist is capable of doing a podcast like this. If there is one, I am welcoming recommendations.

The guy has 2-3 hour conversation with someone 4-6 times a week. Sometimes he does two podcasts in a day.

This new culture where speech is elevated to weaponry and where everyone is looking for a simplest solution - ban/cancel/deplatform - when they hear something they don't like is sickening. There are plenty of people I don't like but I don't pay attention to them.

And those two latest controversial guests: Dr. Robert Malone and Dr. Peter McCullough. He could have done without them. Some wild claims by these two dudes. I couldn't even listen to Malone as he sounded butthurt because others made money from technology he worked on or claims to have invented it. The other was far more convincing but if you read this, it looks that a lot of claims were either inaccurate, false or unsupported: https://healthfeedback.org/claimrev...ims-about-the-covid-19-pandemic-and-vaccines/

I strongly despise censorship as I think dangers from censorship are greater than few doctors spreading misinformation. Kyle K. explained my position very well, far better than I can: I advise everyone to watch it. It is long, but worth watching.


This is a great post. I think it sums things up really well. So many brilliant episodes but also people I wouldn’t agree with!
 
Because he has earned it.

Edit: I am a fan because he elevated podcast game to what it is now. He wasn't the pioneer but certainly increased popularity of long conversations. Through him I have learned about people I'd never heard before or did not pay enough attention to. People like: Graham Hancock, Rhonda Patrick, Andrew Huberman, Garrett Reisman. He also had political candidates that I liked like Bernie Sanders and Andrew Young. I also liked Tulsi but lately she has been sort of a whack. Some of his podcasts were a total masterclass of amazing conversation through which a lot can be learned.

His list of guests over the years has been absolutely amazing. Episode with Brian Cox was phenomenal, phenomenal.
No mainstream journalist is capable of doing a podcast like this. If there is one, I am welcoming recommendations.

The guy has 2-3 hour conversation with someone 4-6 times a week. Sometimes he does two podcasts in a day.

This new culture where speech is elevated to weaponry and where everyone is looking for a simplest solution - ban/cancel/deplatform - when they hear something they don't like is sickening. There are plenty of people I don't like but I don't pay attention to them.

And those two latest controversial guests: Dr. Robert Malone and Dr. Peter McCullough. He could have done without them. Some wild claims by these two dudes. I couldn't even listen to Malone as he sounded butthurt because others made money from technology he worked on or claims to have invented it. The other was far more convincing but if you read this, it looks that a lot of claims were either inaccurate, false or unsupported: https://healthfeedback.org/claimrev...ims-about-the-covid-19-pandemic-and-vaccines/

I strongly despise censorship as I think dangers from censorship are greater than few doctors spreading misinformation. Kyle K. explained my position very well, far better than I can: I advise everyone to watch it. It is long, but worth watching.


Good post. And exactly right- with Rogan it's always been about the guests. The only reason I'd ever watch a Rogan podcast is because of the guest! I mean, why else?! It's the same with Conan O'Brian's podcast, or Lex Friedman's, or Theo Von's. The only other podcasts I listen to are Tim Dillon and Bill Burr, and occasionally Chris D'elia, because of their endless rambling which is hilarious.

People need to calm down.
 
Just here for the Tim Dillon love the guy is absolutely hilarious, although i'm not sure half of the posters on this thread wouldn't get offended by it.
 
Just here for the Tim Dillon love the guy is absolutely hilarious, although i'm not sure half of the posters on this thread wouldn't get offended by it.

He and Ben are the best thing since Norm MacDonald and Adam Eget.
 
I agree with the comments about Rogan being a podcast trail-blazer. He was ahead of the game at a time when a really long form interview was novel and interesting. Plus he had a diverse and interesting set of guests.

What I don’t get is how anyone still finds him novel or interesting. The format is pretty tired now and once you’ve listened to a couple of dozen Rogan podcasts they all start to sound the same. He’s a one trick pony at this stage. Boring rants about eating meat, smoking weed, psychedelics, hot yoga and all the libertarian tropes you’ve heard a million times before. Blows my mind that anyone is still finding all that shit compelling to listen to.

Plus the last few years has seen the rise of right wing grifters who have nothing useful or interesting to say and actively try to spread divisive and hateful ideas but are consistently given a platform by him to spout absolute drivel. Which has obviously come to a head with all the covid misinformation. That might actually have cost lives.
 
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I agree with the comments about Rogan being a podcast trail-blazer. He was ahead of the game at a time when a really long form interview was novel and interesting. Plus he had a diverse and interesting set of guests.

What I don’t get is how anyone still finds him novel or interesting. The format is pretty tired now and once you’ve listened to a couple of dozen Rogan podcasts they all start to sound the same. He’s a one trick pony at this stage. Boring rants about eating meat, smoking weed, psychedelics, hot yoga and all the libertarian tropes you’ve heard a million times before. Blows my mind that anyone is still finding all that shit compelling to listen to.

Plus the last few years has seen the rise of right wing grifters who have nothing useful or interesting to say and actively try to spread divisive and hateful ideas but are consistently given a platform by him to spout absolute drivel. Which has obviously come to a head with all the covid misinformation. That might actually have cost lives.
Exactly, you don't have to continue liking and supporting someone after finding out they are pretty shitty, just because you once didn't know that and enjoyed what they did. That is literally the opposite of progression.
 
I agree with the comments about Rogan being a podcast trail-blazer. He was ahead of the game at a time when a really long form interview was novel and interesting. Plus he had a diverse and interesting set of guests.

What I don’t get is how anyone still finds him novel or interesting. The format is pretty tired now and once you’ve listened to a couple of dozen Rogan podcasts they all start to sound the same. He’s a one trick pony at this stage. Boring rants about eating meat, smoking weed, psychedelics, hot yoga and all the libertarian tropes you’ve heard a million times before. Blows my mind that anyone is still finding all that shit compelling to listen to.

Plus the last few years has seen the rise of right wing grifters who have nothing useful or interesting to say and actively try to spread divisive and hateful ideas but are consistently given a platform by him to spout absolute drivel. Which has obviously come to a head with all the covid misinformation. That might actually have cost lives.

Been a handful of great recentish ones Yeonmi Park was one of them still some great ones just have to pick and choose.

All on your approach to the show, i think one of the greatest episodes he has done is with Alex Jones & Eddie Bravo, but its ridiculous full of conspiracy crap that is stupid and 99.9% load of bollocks, but if you view it from a strictly entertainment angle its hilarious.
 
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Been a handful of great recentish ones Yeonmi Park was one of them still some great ones just have to pick and choose.

I can believe that. I just find Rogan so tedious at this point. I’ve tried a few recently on the basis of a guest that seems interesting only for him to ruin it by steering the conversation to his usual boring bollox.

I put some of the issues down to him maybe doing podcasts more heavily stoned in recent years? The higher he is, the more repetitive and boring the podcast.
 
I can believe that. I just find Rogan so tedious at this point. I’ve tried a few recently on the basis of a guest that seems interesting only for him to ruin it by steering the conversation to his usual boring bollox.

I put some of the issues down to him maybe doing podcasts more heavily stoned in recent years? The higher he is, the more repetitive and boring the podcast.

In his head its a blast though, we've all been there! :lol:
 
Rogan spoilt that Yeomi Park one with a weirdly aggressive Libertarian rant towards the end, and all she could do was agree with him out of sheer awkwardness..

it was amazing up to then though
 
Just here for the Tim Dillon love the guy is absolutely hilarious, although i'm not sure half of the posters on this thread wouldn't get offended by it.

Tim Dillon is one of Rogan's best guests, and his sketch making fun of Meghan McCain was brilliant.

Re Rogan in general, it does seem true that in recent years he has had more and more right wing grifters / conspiracy theorists / con artists on his show.

Having Julianna Pena on last week and talking about UFC and not politics, COVID, climate change, cultural wars etc., i.e. what he is actually an expert in, was actually a welcome relief ! He did make himself look a bit silly in the past when he was one of the most enthusiastic members of the Ronda Rousey bandwagon, including saying that she could beat 50% of male fighters in the men's bantamweight division, but at least he never tried to hide that afterwards. There clearly isn't really enough going on in UFC or Boxing for those topics to completely dominate his podcast scheduling, but I still wish he would talk more about that.
 
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Worth saying that Rogan is also to blame for me knowing who Brendan Schaub is, which I resent as much as any Covid misinformation.
 
In this very thread you have agreed that he is not intelligent, kind of racist, tweets conspiracy theories, not a saint. What is the balance you are bringing to this thread? We are all saying the same. If he is all that, why are you his fan and why is it so important for a guy like him to have a platform that reaches millions? Can't understand that

I find it particularly ridiculous to use the term "haters" in this context. Like it's somehow irrational to strongly object to someone, who does have the "qualities" you just listed.
 
I agree with the comments about Rogan being a podcast trail-blazer. He was ahead of the game at a time when a really long form interview was novel and interesting. Plus he had a diverse and interesting set of guests.

What I don’t get is how anyone still finds him novel or interesting. The format is pretty tired now and once you’ve listened to a couple of dozen Rogan podcasts they all start to sound the same. He’s a one trick pony at this stage. Boring rants about eating meat, smoking weed, psychedelics, hot yoga and all the libertarian tropes you’ve heard a million times before. Blows my mind that anyone is still finding all that shit compelling to listen to.

Plus the last few years has seen the rise of right wing grifters who have nothing useful or interesting to say and actively try to spread divisive and hateful ideas but are consistently given a platform by him to spout absolute drivel. Which has obviously come to a head with all the covid misinformation. That might actually have cost lives.

I agree but I still dont believe this reason enough to get him displatformed. Because of the crazy anti vax movement in the west, the stance of pro vaccine science crowd has also become dogmatic. Even YouTube doesnt ban people from saying unscientific or patently false information. It is dangerous to establish precedent of letting such bans happen with ease since it may be used for net positive deemed by objective folks now but in future same can be abused to suppress genuine movements against injustices by Govts.
 
It's so hilarious to me that the stoner podcast I listened to in University circa 2011 is now dictating the political discourse. I'm not sure anything exemplifies the downfall of civilization quite like that, not even president Trump.

My guy was selling fleshlights and talking about chimps ripping off your dick. Now he's directing the agenda of humanity.
 
I agree but I still dont believe this reason enough to get him displatformed. Because of the crazy anti vax movement in the west, the stance of pro vaccine science crowd has also become dogmatic. Even YouTube doesnt ban people from saying unscientific or patently false information. It is dangerous to establish precedent of letting such bans happen with ease since it may be used for net positive deemed by objective folks now but in future same can be abused to suppress genuine movements against injustices by Govts.

I don’t think he should be deplatformed either. I’m against deplatforming in general and his “sins” are relatively minor. Just putting forward a case for his podcast being a bit shit.
 
Do you think he should be able to spout absolute crap without being challenged?
He is challenged. Did you listen to him when he listed out the people he's had on in relation to the vaccine and Covid in general? And the millions of people crying to see the end of him, are they not challenging him? It sounds like he's getting more than enough opposing views thrown way both on and off his podcast.

And what about CNN or Fox or GB news or any news channel who get a shitload wrong (often completely intentionally) on a regular basis? What do you want to do about them?

The world can't be policed and regulated until the absolutely everyone is safe from any possible shred of inaccurate news that's out there.

Rogan's made an incredibly successful podcast for himself. People can say whatever they like about him. He's an undercover alt-right Bernie Sanders voter. Grand. But if Spotify want to give him 100m that's their right and they should be under no pressure to end their business with him. It's preposterous.
 
But if Spotify want to give him 100m that's their right and they should be under no pressure to end their business with him. It's preposterous.

So surely it's also their right to end their business with him, just as it's other people's right to pressure them to do it?

The world can't be policed and regulated until the absolutely everyone is safe from any possible shred of inaccurate news that's out there.

This is just the same old "we can't make it perfect so let's not even try" non-argument. Nobody is talking about "until absolutely everyone is safe from any possible shred of inaccurate news". They're talking about the specific case of Joe Rogan on Spotify.
 
But if Spotify want to give him 100m that's their right and they should be under no pressure to end their business with him. It's preposterous.

Why? If people want to try and put pressure on spotify for any issue then that's their business. People have a right to campaign for all manner of things.
 
Why? If people want to try and put pressure on spotify for any issue then that's their business. People have a right to campaign for all manner of things.
So surely it's also their right to end their business with him, just as it's other people's right to pressure them to do it?



This is just the same old "we can't make it perfect so let's not even try" non-argument. Nobody is talking about "until absolutely everyone is safe from any possible shred of inaccurate news". They're talking about the specific case of Joe Rogan on Spotify.
That's fair enough. Enjoy Tidal, you're doing the Lord's work.
 
Why? If people want to try and put pressure on spotify for any issue then that's their business. People have a right to campaign for all manner of things.

Some people complaining about cancelling seem to act like boycotting in a new thing and never have people previously boycotted things they disagree with for some reason.

At times some people I've seen arguing against cancel culture online have come across as if they think these companies and people have a right to our money without question. Not saying that's what is happening here in this thread, but it's worrying that people don't seem to think someone should make such decisions in line with their own values.
 
He's got good guests and conversations that can be fairly interesting and informative vs the bland, generic shit you hear on CNN or Oprah. He's had some interesting guests like Matt Taibbi, Steven Pinker, Jocko Willink, Peter Attia, Snoop Dogg, Chuck Palahniuk, Sanjay Gupta, Josh Dubin, Bert Kreischer, Bret Weinstein, Rhonda Patrick, Neill Blomkamp, Lex Fridman, Andrew Huberman, Michael Pollan, Quentin Tarantino, David Sinclair, Kyle Kulinski, David Lee Roth, Neil de Grasse, Russell Peters, Dave Chappelle, Action Bronson, Alex Honnold, Marcus Luttrell, Ayaan Hirsi Ali, Elon Musk, Ali Siddiq, Tulsi Gabbard, Bernie Sanders, Ira Glasser, Lawrence Wright, Bill Burr, Matthew Yglesias, Mike Judge, Nick Christakis, Mike Baker, Tristan Harris, Gad Saad, Glenn Greenwald, Kanye West, Matthew McConaughey, Edward Snowden, Mike Tyson, David Blaine, Oliver Stone, Bob Saget, Jon Stewart, Krystal & Saagar, Stephen Dubner, Brian Greene, Mike Baker, Bill Maher, Robert Downey Jr, Pavel Tsatsouline, Firas Zahabi, Malcolm Gladwell, Edward Norton, Richard Dawkins, Penn Jillette, Maynard James Keenan, Cornel West, Naval Ravikant, Wiz Kahlifa, Laird Hamilton, Eddie Izzard, Anthony Jesselnik, Russell Brand, Gabby Reece, Lennox Lewis, Jack Dorsey, Andrew Yang, Sam Harris, Killer Mike, Sir Roger Penrose etc in the last 2 years alone. Plenty of interesting guests/conversations/nuggets of wisdom to draw off those 3+hours conversations with each guest.

I don't even think he's particularly bright, nor insightful as a host but somehow his show works - for the most part.

I wholeheartedly disagree with his vaccine stance, but people have a right to have conversations you may disagree about. Science is changing, evolving, imperfect, and the process of scientific discovery hardly linear. Which is perfectly fine. Scientists disagree all the time, so bring on the debate.

This whole backlash is frustration that we're 2 years into Covid with no end in sight - and the realization that lockdowns might have been all for naught.
Almost 1:1 my list of guests
 
I think he’s too personally invested in it the matter now. He retweeted that article yesterday that had the headline saying ivermectin was effective with a “lookie here” message. They’re now saying this was a mistranslation from the original Japanese and that it should read “antiviral effect”. Of course everyone who supports him piled in crowing when they thought he was right, 100k retweets, of course he has deleted his tweet now. And he gets the expected response of the rest of Twitter shitting on him.

Who knows, maybe in time studies show ivermectin is more helpful then we thought, that’s not really the point so much as Rogan is coming across as more and more desperate to be seen to be right. I would love for ivermectin to prove to be an answer to all of this, but I don’t care if that isn’t and something else is. Rogan really seems like he’s invested in that being the best solution. It undermines his”happy to be wrong” tweets recently and his response video which, in isolation, was pretty well done, but then when he does stuff like this it’s hard to see him as humble curious meathead so much as guy with a personal attachment to the positions he holds who’s not really clued in on what he’s talking about. And that’s not a healthy way to be: I’d argue we saw Peterson go through a similar thing although from a very different starting .

joe would probably be best placed staying off Instagram or Twitter for a while. Take a deep breath, meditate, enjoy his nice house and family and great dog. of course this sounds like something Joe Rogan himself would say so I must be right.

Part of me thinks he’s too big to fall, but another part wonders how far has he pushed things this time, will people just not forget. I mean look at the horrible shit he used to get away with that no one was talking about until this: suddenly it’s resurfacing. Maybe this won’t quite blow over.